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Old May 24th, 2013, 07:58 PM   #11781
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The size fits it's purpose (hotel for pilgrimages), and it's mammoth, just like Islam... So it's perfect.
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Old May 24th, 2013, 08:53 PM   #11782
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I'm a moslem and I think this is a very hideous building. Good architecture for me is not about the building per se, but involved its surrounding.

its location and its proximity to Masjidil Haram creates a very unbalance landscape.

IMHO what Mecca needs is affordable housing for pilgrims, millions of them, so they don't have to stay in tents or in location far from The Masjid, instead of this gargantuan tower.
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Old May 25th, 2013, 08:13 AM   #11783
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Have you ever seen a casino? IMO, it doesn't look like "a" casino, it looks like EVERY casino. Don't get me wrong, I like it fine but I find myself wanting to shout "Viva Las Vegas" every time I see a picture of it.
Absolutely right. The building is deliberately ostentatious. And that's just when viewing it from the front. When you look at it from the side or the back, it's completely ridiculous.

That said, I appreciate its huge size. I like that. But then it's also maybe the most asymmetrical skyscraper ever built, and I hate that. Maybe when they build the planned giant hotels behind it, it won't look so insane.
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Old May 25th, 2013, 03:24 PM   #11784
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Have you ever seen a casino? IMO, it doesn't look like "a" casino, it looks like EVERY casino. Don't get me wrong, I like it fine but I find myself wanting to shout "Viva Las Vegas" every time I see a picture of it.
Perhaps what lends to that comparison are the dessert climate and color palette that are common to both Vegas and Mecca. Beyond that, the comparison that comes to mind is to ornate cathedrals.
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Old May 28th, 2013, 08:08 PM   #11785
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Old May 30th, 2013, 12:32 PM   #11786
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View from half top of King Abdulla Minarat Construction Area









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Old May 30th, 2013, 05:44 PM   #11787
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Makkah in 2012




Makkah about 40 years ago .. let's compare

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Old May 31st, 2013, 05:42 PM   #11788
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You think it's possible to have a 'future view' from this angle as well. That would be cool.
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Old June 1st, 2013, 06:41 PM   #11789
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Old June 1st, 2013, 06:44 PM   #11790
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Old June 2nd, 2013, 01:02 PM   #11791
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Any photos from cleaning crews up on top of the crescent?
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Old June 2nd, 2013, 10:08 PM   #11792
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Old June 3rd, 2013, 06:53 PM   #11793
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Just because a building is draped in religious symbols does not mean it's representative of a religion. I'll be the first to agree that this building looks like a Las Vegas hotelier ran out of ideas and decided to put an Islam-themed hotel on the Strip, but that's not what bothers me most about it.

This building is meant primarily to house Muslims traveling on Hajj -- a pilgrimage which is meant to be symbolic of solidarity with other Muslims and of supplication to God. But how can this building represent solidarity when it's so expensive that only the wealthiest pilgrims can stay there? And how can it represent supplication when it towers 2000 feet above (and I mean directly above) the religion's holiest site? It's very clearly a moneymaking venture, and a prideful one at that, but because the developers outfitted it with green lights and a minaret with a crescent on top, people rush to defend it by calling any criticism racist or ignorant. The developers know this and they're cashing in on it.

Its cynicism is what makes it gaudy.

...although seriously, aesthetically, if you're going to do the green lights, lose the gold. Glistening white would have been 1000x better.
Abraj Al Bait is actually the largest islamic waqf or charitable trust
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Old June 5th, 2013, 10:46 AM   #11794
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Hypocrisy. A charitable trust cannot base itself on inequality. The endowment should have been hosting regular pilgrims, not rich ones. Also should not have been towering 600 meters right over the Kaaba. As it is now, the idea is "God is the greatest" (as written on the clock tower), THEN there is us, who look at the Kaaba from above, and LAST there is the ant-like poor muslims DOWN THERE.
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Old June 5th, 2013, 11:27 AM   #11795
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Hypocrisy. A charitable trust cannot base itself on inequality. The endowment should have been hosting regular pilgrims, not rich ones. Also should not have been towering 600 meters right over the Kaaba. As it is now, the idea is "God is the greatest" (as written on the clock tower), THEN there is us, who look at the Kaaba from above, and LAST there is the ant-like poor muslims DOWN THERE.
That would be all fine and great if Islam was against inequality. But as anyone who has read the quran and other islamic products will tell you that Islam says that the world is supposed to be stratified and it actually supports these structures. Rich vs Poor, Man vs Woman, Muslim vs Non-Muslim, Qurashi vs Non Qurashi, Freeman vs Slave etc etc
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Old June 5th, 2013, 07:56 PM   #11796
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I think it's crass and vulgar! Remember when Jesus (aka Isa) threw the money changers out of the temple! Well here they are! Right on the masjid! It's desecration, wahabi desecration.
well I can't trust your story because we have difference religion and faith but I hope it true story.
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Old June 5th, 2013, 08:00 PM   #11797
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No, i completely agree. This building is stunning, and i don't see why all the hate towards it.
I agree with you. I like a lot this building¡¡¡
I wish I could go myself one day to see it in person¡¡¡
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Old June 6th, 2013, 12:46 AM   #11798
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That would be all fine and great if Islam was against inequality. But as anyone who has read the quran and other islamic products will tell you that Islam says that the world is supposed to be stratified and it actually supports these structures. Rich vs Poor, Man vs Woman, Muslim vs Non-Muslim, Qurashi vs Non Qurashi, Freeman vs Slave etc etc
Inequality is ok (until it's outrageously gross like in this case), but displaying riches for the sake of it, especially there, where everyone should show humility, is not halal for sure. Again I say: hypocrisy.
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Old June 6th, 2013, 01:39 AM   #11799
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Why is still U/C? I mean not completed
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Old June 13th, 2013, 05:45 PM   #11800
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Hard to call a building completed when there is still a tower crane up there, eh?
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