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Old November 11th, 2007, 09:20 AM   #1261
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This type of comment always catches my eye. What is an "Islamic" look?
Perhaps one that is characterized by a series of arches, geometric patterns, an array of geometric patterns and shapes arranged in a pleasing visual form, and simplicity of design.

BTW, nice job Malec
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Old November 11th, 2007, 09:35 AM   #1262
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Yes, the entrance is very Islamic and you can clearly see it in the arcs and columns.
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Old November 11th, 2007, 09:45 AM   #1263
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Yea it's unussuall how they opened it before the building is even finished getting built lol, how often does this happen?
The ICC in Hong Kong will open in phases - i.e., before the whole building is complete.
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Old November 11th, 2007, 12:28 PM   #1264
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By the way only half of the mall is opened and the another half is being finished and will be opened in hajj inshallah (God willing) as scheduled unless if they could not finish it.
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Old November 11th, 2007, 12:42 PM   #1265
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By the way only half of the mall is opened and the another half is being finished and will be opened in hajj inshallah (God willing) as scheduled unless if they could not finish it.
BTW, I think Movenpick is the hotel in this complex, or am I wrong? And is that small awkward building (7 floors) in front of the Abraj demolished, cause its just looks sooo out of context? Are any of the residential buildings occupied at the moment?
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Old November 11th, 2007, 01:32 PM   #1266
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still not known but I hear some rumors but anyway there is nothing official and hotel's name is called Makkah Royal Hotel as I said before.

About this small ugly building, Yes it will be demolished inshallah (God willing).

Occupied buildings are:

1- Part of Al-Safa Tower.
2- Al-Marwa Tower.
3- ZamZam Tower.
4- Most of the podium.
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Old November 11th, 2007, 05:08 PM   #1267
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Hey, it should look islamic. they are building it in Mecca
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Old November 11th, 2007, 05:35 PM   #1268
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Then entrance and the mall are amazing.
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Old November 11th, 2007, 05:44 PM   #1269
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The entrance is very islamic look and very nice!!.. but inside the mall does not look islamic look..

inside the mall could have done better..
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Old November 11th, 2007, 06:13 PM   #1270
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The mall is good but to be honest with all of you, The main problems in design of the mall are as the following:

1- Colors: Green, Grey & Red??? This is weird!!
2- Finishing: The project is still under construction, We can not judge yet but from what have been done, Gypsum waves are looking very bad and the gaps between the tublar ceiling are big enough to show the entire Electro-Mechanical work which has been painted to be black but still can be seen.
3- The design of the big waves at the top and the panels is very very bad.
4- the pulley of the capsule lift is vertical and that is why they could not cladd its path.

People go there and start taking pictures for the mall and they feel surprised and most of them say "WOW". They are not proffessionals to detect the mistakes.. That is why they find it WOW but for proffessionals, they can detect the mentioned above mistakes easily.

For sure, this is my opinion and each one is free to agree with me or not.
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Old November 11th, 2007, 06:24 PM   #1271
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This type of comment always catches my eye. What is an "Islamic" look?
Had to think on this --- coming from middle USA I think of Ottoman and Arabian styles as Islamic - I know this is a gross generalization, hence the "s

[from Riyadhi's post]
"Islamic"
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Frank Llyod Wright meets the arch.
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Old November 11th, 2007, 10:38 PM   #1272
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Interesting Dream1981.

Any chance you could take pictures of the problems in design you talk about?
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Old November 11th, 2007, 11:47 PM   #1273
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WOW! I like it!!! Go Mecca, I love this city and especially that big mosque and the Kaaba in the center! Will visit someday Mecca
you cant non-muslims are not allowed in the city
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Old November 11th, 2007, 11:50 PM   #1274
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you cant non-muslims are not allowed in the city
Please dont start another war of words.
Status quo: Makkah and Medina are offlimits to non-Muslims... Dont refute it, cause it will only add unnessessary posts to this thread and will lead to debates.

See this thread: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=321337
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Old November 12th, 2007, 12:10 AM   #1275
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Perhaps one that is characterized by a series of arches, geometric patterns, an array of geometric patterns and shapes arranged in a pleasing visual form, and simplicity of design.
I was actually asking HarryC of Oak Park, Il who made the comment, and not Halawala of Doha. I'm curious of the perceptions of people outside of the middle east. I have some thoughts on this also (and I've shared a diversity of examples in the past) but I'm really curious of what view Oak Park gets.
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Old November 12th, 2007, 12:16 AM   #1276
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Had to think on this --- coming from middle USA I think of Ottoman and Arabian styles as Islamic - I know this is a gross generalization, hence the "s

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"Islamic"
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Frank Llyod Wright meets the arch.
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Thanks for the response - and I'm happy the question made you think. It is interesting that architecture styles are not exclusive to each other, and in fact philosophical areas such as 'Islamic styled architecture' are more about themes rather than specific elements. Balance, engaging environment, humility, etcetera. Descriptions such as arches are more interpretations of the themes. Those interpretations have also changed with time and place, particularly with the large and diverse muslim world, and sometimes have been adapted more uniquely in occidental settings.

While this is a pinch of a tangent, folks interested in 'Islamic Architecture' may want to visit Archnet.org -
"ArchNet is an international online community for architects, planners, urban designers, landscape architects, conservationists, and scholars, with a focus on Muslim cultures and civilisations."
Archnet contains over 50,000 images, over 4,000 publications, and with over 50,000 members has some wonderful debates on-going in their forums on topics just like the one above.

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Old November 12th, 2007, 08:30 AM   #1277
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I was actually asking HarryC of Oak Park, Il who made the comment, and not Halawala of Doha. I'm curious of the perceptions of people outside of the middle east. I have some thoughts on this also (and I've shared a diversity of examples in the past) but I'm really curious of what view Oak Park gets.
Then, you should have rephrased your question more carefully to specifiy whom your talking to, which are people who live outside the Middle East. Your question was general therefore I answered it.
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Old November 12th, 2007, 11:06 AM   #1278
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Interesting Dream1981.

Any chance you could take pictures of the problems in design you talk about?
I will try inshallah (God willing) but anyway they are still working there at night when there are no people in the mall. I think it is not fair to judge now if the finishing of the mall is bad or good. Let's give them some time.
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Old November 12th, 2007, 11:40 AM   #1279
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Totally agree.

I was under the impression you were referring to the part of the mall which was already finished
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This type of comment always catches my eye. What is an "Islamic" look?
"Middle Eastern" or "Arabian" is probably a more apt descriptor.
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