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Old February 12th, 2008, 06:50 PM   #1681
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I still don't believe they can get that clock to work.
why shouldn't it work??
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Old February 12th, 2008, 11:34 PM   #1682
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why shouldn't it work??
Do you understand at all how huge and heavy those unbalanced hands of that clock would be? There is a reason why the biggest clocks in the World are horizontally mounted, you know. Still they are much smaller.

An enormous amount of torque would be needed to turn those hands precisely. And super powerful engines are usually not so precise in their motion.

To make a clockwork that powerful, yet precise, it would have to be enormously heavy.

Perhaps they will just use huge clock-shape video screens.

We will see.
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Old February 13th, 2008, 12:04 AM   #1683
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i understand what you mean, but i think it should be technically possible to build such a clock....if not they've to install a digital-clock
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Old February 13th, 2008, 06:32 AM   #1684
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The clock hands will definitely be built from some light material - aluminium alloy or something. And they are not going to be necessarily unbalanced - they can be mounted to the mechanism in the center and on the ends of the hands too... It is not some technical marvel, no superior invention, the clock are just going to be BIG, that's all.
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Old February 13th, 2008, 07:28 AM   #1685
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There are these amazing people that I guess not all of you have heard about before. They are called "engineers" and "physicists". These people are able to magically determine if something is impossible to build before it has been built! And they are even able to somehow know more about these things than random kids posting on internet forums!
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Old February 13th, 2008, 08:29 AM   #1686
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There are these amazing people that I guess not all of you have heard about before. They are called "engineers" and "physicists". These people are able to magically determine if something is impossible to build before it has been built! And they are even able to somehow know more about these things than random kids posting on internet forums!
Yeah, I know. These kids here will believe any proposal and rendering they see.
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Old February 13th, 2008, 08:59 AM   #1687
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Thanks Hollie. I'm so getting bored by people talking off their arses about their opinions on things they don't take time to understand.

I guess I judge it a form of politeness to document on a subject before making claims. Hey, wait, isn't it called netiquette ?

Hmm, anyways. Remember the comment we had some pages ago on the exact same question, in which a random dude said he was an engineer in order to prove his point.

That would make me laugh if that wasn't sad.

Man, BTW, I still wonder how the earth doesn't fall on the sun. I mean, it's sooooo massive......

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Do you understand at all how huge and heavy those unbalanced hands of that clock would be? There is a reason why the biggest clocks in the World are horizontally mounted, you know. Still they are much smaller.

An enormous amount of torque would be needed to turn those hands precisely. And super powerful engines are usually not so precise in their motion.

To make a clockwork that powerful, yet precise, it would have to be enormously heavy.

Perhaps they will just use huge clock-shape video screens.

We will see.
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Old February 13th, 2008, 09:39 AM   #1688
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There are these amazing people that I guess not all of you have heard about before. They are called "engineers" and "physicists". These people are able to magically determine if something is impossible to build before it has been built! And they are even able to somehow know more about these things than random kids posting on internet forums!
It's a pity it was not engineers nor physicists who decided how this building had to be made, but politicians.
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Old February 13th, 2008, 10:42 AM   #1689
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For all the smart people that thing the clock will not work.
How about they build an mirrow copy of the clock inside the building so there would be an counterweight inside. Hows That?

I am not good at paint but i hope you get my point.
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Old February 13th, 2008, 04:15 PM   #1690
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For all the smart people that thing the clock will not work.
How about they build an mirrow copy of the clock inside the building so there would be an counterweight inside. Hows That?

I am not good at paint but i hope you get my point.


Paint skills more than adequate - thx.
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Old February 13th, 2008, 04:17 PM   #1691
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Old February 13th, 2008, 04:41 PM   #1692
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i drew Tom_Green's pic again to make it straightforward
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Old February 13th, 2008, 07:25 PM   #1693
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i drew Tom_Green's pic again to make it straightforward
Now that's an idea. As you can see, all big clock hands need a counterweight, hidden or not:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...eter-Clock.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...lock_front.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...arp.750pix.jpg

Now just add both clock hands with hour hand transmissions and all four clocks with their power shafts. Then the clockwork and its engine. After that the picture will look interesting.
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Old February 13th, 2008, 09:03 PM   #1694
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what about LED hands for the clock?
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Old February 14th, 2008, 08:48 AM   #1695
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As I scroll through this thread, I see people mentioning the likeness to Communist architecture: a massive construction built for showmanship, but of questionable value, especially since it completely overshadows Islam's holiest site.

But has anyone noticed how much this building resembles a scaled-up version of Moscow State University?

You can find a picture of it here:

http://www.johnbolducarthur.ca/graph...versity%20.jpg
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Old February 14th, 2008, 12:50 PM   #1696
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But has anyone noticed how much this building resembles a scaled-up version of Moscow State University?

You can find a picture of it here:

http://www.johnbolducarthur.ca/graph...versity%20.jpg
Excuse me, there's a slight resemblance ok, but MSU is beautiful, this Mecca thing is pure carbuncle.
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Old February 14th, 2008, 03:24 PM   #1697
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Excuse me, there's a slight resemblance ok, but MSU is beautiful, this Mecca thing is pure carbuncle.

I would stop short of calling MSU "beautiful" but anything is better than this thing they're building in Mecca which is seriously the ugliest thing ever built - so ugly it's almost cool.

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Old February 14th, 2008, 08:54 PM   #1698
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Ugly.
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Old February 14th, 2008, 08:56 PM   #1699
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MSU is a wonderful skyscraper

but please lets come back to topic now, this is the Abraj Al Bait thread
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Old February 15th, 2008, 02:12 AM   #1700
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