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View Poll Results: My Favourite F1 Circuit
Sepang International Circuit - Malasia 68 9.93%
Melbourn GP Circuit Albert Park - Melbourne, Australia 65 9.49%
Autodromo Enzo e Dino Ferrari - San Marino 13 1.90%
Nurburgring - Germany 40 5.84%
Circuit de Catalunya - Catalunya, Spain 27 3.94%
Circuit de Monaco - Monaco 155 22.63%
Silverstone Circuit - England, Great Britain 43 6.28%
Circuit Gilles Villeneuve - Canada 45 6.57%
Indianapolis Motor Speedway - USA 31 4.53%
Hockenheiem-Ring Motodrom - Germany 25 3.65%
Autodromo Nazionale Monza - Italy 80 11.68%
Suzuka International Racetrack - Japan 53 7.74%
Interlagos - Sao Paulo, Brazil 121 17.66%
Circuit de Nevers Magny-Cours - France 15 2.19%
Other (Newer Circuits): Shanghai Intl. ; Hungaroring Sport, Hungary; Bahrain Intl. ; Tomsfed, Turkey 124 18.10%
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Old April 10th, 2006, 12:39 PM   #21
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It’s nice to see people haven’t forgotten Spa yet.

People from all over the world praise Spa, but our own government don’t want to come up with the necessary money to modernize the infrastructure. Anyway, Ecclestone says there will be a Grand Prix in 2007. And I also heard about some vague plans to build a stand with a lenght of 250 meter.

I love Spa for its beautiful surroundings, and its special atmosphere ( the smell of the woods ! the smell of Liège waffles ! all those drunk Germans ! GREAT circuit ! )





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Old April 10th, 2006, 12:52 PM   #22
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Spa is the best. No question.

The first pic of Nürburgring is outdated. They built a new sharp corner at the end of the start/finish straight, a few years ago. Which is a great improvement.
Everyone who wants them to drive at Nordschleife is an idiot, sorry. The old "Green Hell" is probably the most amazing racetrack on earth, but it's much too dangerous for F1-cars.

The reconstruction of Hockenheim was an improvement, too. Overtaking is now possible at the new hairpin corner.
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Old April 10th, 2006, 01:07 PM   #23
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Yep. Anyone remember the Spa Crash of 1998?







The mass pile-up:
Crash Video 1 (mpeg)

Coulthard - Schumacher Crash
Crash Video 2 - With Crazy Commentator (mpeg)
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Old April 10th, 2006, 01:18 PM   #24
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Adelaide shat all over Albert Park. Still does.
No it didn't, and it certainly does not. Dont let your bias towards Adelaide and bitterness towards the better GP that stole the only good thing your pitiful city had get in the way of making a decent judgement.

Nobody wants to race around the streets of a dull country town.


Albert Park rules!!!
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Old April 10th, 2006, 01:36 PM   #25
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Suzuka International Racing Course

one of the world’s most challenging circuits.




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Old April 10th, 2006, 02:05 PM   #26
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Agreed! Its a pity Toyota couldnt get a home win there last year, but 3rd wasnt bad
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Old April 10th, 2006, 02:50 PM   #27
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Yep. Anyone remember the Spa Crash of 1998?







The mass pile-up:
Crash Video 1 (mpeg)

Coulthard - Schumacher Crash
Crash Video 2 - With Crazy Commentator (mpeg)
I do remember that crash, in fact I think I've got it recorded on tape somewhere! I know I shouldn't like crashes, cus obviously it aint good for the drivers, but it is awesum to watch, adn that one was one of, if not THE best I've ever seen!

For setting you can't beat Monaco, for history and a good overtaking style race it's hard to beat Silverstone, for a general all round great, exciting race with an amazing track, Spa is the clear winner! Monza is another personal fave of mine as well!

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Old April 10th, 2006, 03:03 PM   #28
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- The "old" Nurburgring. 121 corners, practically a death a Grand Prix. They stopped racing there in about '76. Nikki Lauda has the mark of Nurburgring for life. Incredible circuit. You can actually do it yourself in your own car for about 20 euros if you are ever in that part of Gerry.

- The old Monza with the banked tracks, "Monza-napolis" you see in the 1966 film "Grand Prix".

- The "real" Spa-Francorchamps, not the modern, shortened jobbie.

Modern circuits are just glorified go-kart tracks. Yawn......
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Old April 10th, 2006, 03:03 PM   #29
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I guess that crash was a success Jack, as no-one was injured! But seriously it was dope to watch, the spray, the loose wheels, the shards o' metal...
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I guess that crash was a success Jack, as no-one was injured! But seriously it was dope to watch, the spray, the loose wheels, the shards o' metal...
Yer. Funnily enough, I haven't seen a big crash like that for a while, I think we're due one soon!

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btw, is anyone else really confused by the new qualifying rules they've got this season in F1, cus I've been watching every race so far and I still can't really figure it out. Something about a drop-out zone, and the more laps you do the more fuel you get in the race....what happened to the good old days when everyone had like 5 laps round the circuit, and the fastest guy got the poll position?

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Old April 10th, 2006, 04:33 PM   #32
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Spa is the best by a mile. The Eau Rouge is legendary!
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Old April 11th, 2006, 05:44 AM   #33
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SPA is the best circuit, facilities are dated though.

Ratings for each circuit on the quality of the race track.

Bahrain 5/10
Malaysia 6/10
Melbourne 7/10
Imola 7/10
Nurburgring 8/10
Barcelona 6/10
Monaco 7/10
Silverstone 7/10
Canada 8/10
Indianapolis 7/10
Magny-Cours 5/10
Hockenheiem 6/10
Hungary 6/10
Istanbul 7/10
Monza 8/10
Spa 9/10
Shanghai 7/10
Suzuka 8/10
Interlagos 7/10
I pretty much agree with you, I absolutely hate Magny-Cours, it's a shame, because it gives french viewers a bad spectacle.
On the other hand, I would give a higher grade to Barcelona, and Bahrein wasn't that bad.
I really like Monaco (who doesn't), Canada, Spa, Interlagos, etc.
And I like that in the recent years they've started to reach a little more worldwide, and in fact, they should scrap more European races. Get only Nurbirgring and sack Hockenheim as Germany's GP. Get rid of Magny-Cours and let Monaco be a half-French GP. I want to say get rid of either Imola or Monza, but that would be a crime.
Still, it's enough to get a GP in Eastern Europe, and one in Africa.
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[QUOTE=victory]No it didn't, and it certainly does not. Dont let your bias towards Adelaide and bitterness towards the better GP that stole the only good thing your pitiful city had get in the way of making a decent judgement.

Nobody wants to race around the streets of a dull country town.


Albert Park rules!!!


Without wanting to sound biased (being from Adelaide myself), then can you explain why every single F1 race in Melbourne has been run at a loss? And every F1 race in Adelaide (1985-1995) was run at a profit? And Adelaide's 1995 race had over 500 000 people for the four day weekend?

And the current Clipsal 500 race in the V8 Supercar Series is constantly rated the best in the country by the drivers.
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Old April 11th, 2006, 08:13 AM   #35
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Without wanting to sound biased (being from Adelaide myself), then can you explain why every single F1 race in Melbourne has been run at a loss? And every F1 race in Adelaide (1985-1995) was run at a profit? And Adelaide's 1995 race had over 500 000 people for the four day weekend?

And the current Clipsal 500 race in the V8 Supercar Series is constantly rated the best in the country by the drivers.
Got a source for the financial results?

V8 supercars? please mate, melbournians have too many sporting events to go to to watch a bunch of thrid rate drivers slowly make ther way around a track in family sedans.

Albert Park is a much better circuit than Adelaide was.
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Old April 11th, 2006, 08:25 AM   #36
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Without wanting to sound biased (being from Adelaide myself), then can you explain why every single F1 race in Melbourne has been run at a loss? And every F1 race in Adelaide (1985-1995) was run at a profit? And Adelaide's 1995 race had over 500 000 people for the four day weekend?

And the current Clipsal 500 race in the V8 Supercar Series is constantly rated the best in the country by the drivers.
I thought the majority of F1 races were run at a loss, which is why they require massive amounts of public funding to hold an event, I know some do because thats why India is no longer interested in hosting a GP. I know Silverstone has so much trouble trying to keep facilities up to Bernies standards and still make a profit. Are you sure the lack of profit in Melbourne isnt due to Bernie's ever increasing demands.

Also, I assume the Adelaide circuit for aussie V-8s is the same or very similar to the old Grand Prix circuit? I know I have watched the Supercars race there and it is awesome. Australians know how to build a racetrack, even street courses like adelaide and surfers paradise have good racing, not to mention great road courses like Bathurst and Philip Island. Sadly in the US there are too many awful street races to list.
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btw, is anyone else really confused by the new qualifying rules they've got this season in F1, cus I've been watching every race so far and I still can't really figure it out. Something about a drop-out zone, and the more laps you do the more fuel you get in the race....what happened to the good old days when everyone had like 5 laps round the circuit, and the fastest guy got the poll position?

At first I was confused, but know I got used to it, its very good I must say. It brings back the thrill to qualifying, the drivers must make the cut, no waiting to let the other guys go out, everyone has to set a banker lap in 15min to go to the next round, the slowest 6 drop out after the first 2 rounds of 15min, then the remianding 10 battle out for 20min, to try & get poll, it eleminates extra traffic, all the guys on the track at that time are flast, so its pretty exciting
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Old April 12th, 2006, 05:53 AM   #38
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I thought the majority of F1 races were run at a loss, which is why they require massive amounts of public funding to hold an event, I know some do because thats why India is no longer interested in hosting a GP. I know Silverstone has so much trouble trying to keep facilities up to Bernies standards and still make a profit. Are you sure the lack of profit in Melbourne isnt due to Bernie's ever increasing demands.

Also, I assume the Adelaide circuit for aussie V-8s is the same or very similar to the old Grand Prix circuit? I know I have watched the Supercars race there and it is awesome. Australians know how to build a racetrack, even street courses like adelaide and surfers paradise have good racing, not to mention great road courses like Bathurst and Philip Island. Sadly in the US there are too many awful street races to list.


Yeah, the V8 Supercar circuit is very similar to the old F1 circuit... only that part of east terrace and Rundle Rd that leads into Dequetteville Tce (Brabham Straight) has been chopped and the track now goes from East Tce into Bartels Rd - which then leads up to the shortened Brabham Straight. Hope that makes some sense The official website for V8 Supercars would have a diagram if you're interested...

As for financial statistics... I'm looking into it... I know for Melbourne's running of the GP they've never reported a profit (from what I've read and seen reported). Of course I'm referring to only the race (not including hotels and restaurants etc that would be happy with the extra business)... I'll get back to you with the details soonish.

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Old April 14th, 2006, 11:14 PM   #39
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Spa is the best by a mile. The Eau Rouge is legendary!
Spa's popularity is massive, especially after the accident.
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Rexfan2 going the democratic route.
In their current states, Spa is probably the best track out there, and its a bit of a sin that it won't be on the calender this year.
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