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Old April 12th, 2006, 10:22 PM   #41
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and yes its clear to all of us calenzano that you are just nit-picking and trying to cause trouble. there is simply no need.

great news about another tower, and foster and partners too

for years i used this site and others and weeped at the state of london, how long things took and such, but it seems now, like some have been saying all along, the time has at last come. its very good news.
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Old April 12th, 2006, 11:01 PM   #42
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newcastle kid excelling himself again

just when i thought he was getting over his teenage angst as well
Timo, I know how about you annoy the person who instigated the annoyance and not the person who retaliated hmm?
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Old April 12th, 2006, 11:03 PM   #43
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erm, dude, you really need to calm down. If i was a mod, I would of given ya a warning by now.

Swearing and a Racist term, all in a three word reply. Wow
Sorry, I know I went abit over the top. Yeah I do that sometimes....
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Old April 13th, 2006, 12:14 AM   #44
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You may not agree that London is #1, but it's certainly regarded by the vast majority of people as one of the "Big Four" cities along with New York, Tokyo and Paris.
Wjfox, i know it would seem right to put Tokyo in with the big players, just 2 days ago i would have done the same. But intriguingly, the City of Shanghai is highly regarded as a stronger competitor to London and New York. Even the likes of Frankfurt is concidered to be a stronger, major competitor.
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Old April 13th, 2006, 12:47 AM   #45
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[QUOTE=wjfox2002]You may not agree that London is #1, but it's certainly regarded by the vast majority of people as one of the "Big Four" cities along with New York, Tokyo and Paris.

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Old April 13th, 2006, 02:44 PM   #46
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When did it ever lose it?
Not shy, are we? I'd think most (non londoners) will agree NY was a step ahead 70 years ago. And most will agree London was the greatest 150 years ago. So somewhere between those, I guess.

Today; I don't know. I guess it's in the eyes of the beholder. For me, it's no clear victory for London; but maybe it will be. I think London has some of the more interesting projects as far as architecture goes (if they go ahead, that is). Sience, buisness and finance, politics and culture are all there. So maybe in the future...
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Old April 13th, 2006, 02:49 PM   #47
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LBT, Heron, Leadenhall, 20 Fenchurch Street, St George's Wharf, Beetham, Multiplex, Broadgate and Pan Peninsula are all virtually 100% guaranteed to be underway next year.
Well, please prove me wrong
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Old April 13th, 2006, 02:55 PM   #48
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L'importante č esserne convinti!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sod off frog
That's written in Italian, not in French.

Not only insulting but also ignorant. What a Loser.
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Old April 13th, 2006, 03:00 PM   #49
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Not shy, are we? I'd think most (non londoners) will agree NY was a step ahead 70 years ago. And most will agree London was the greatest 150 years ago. So somewhere between those, I guess.

Today; I don't know. I guess it's in the eyes of the beholder. For me, it's no clear victory for London; but maybe it will be. I think London has some of the more interesting projects as far as architecture goes (if they go ahead, that is). Sience, buisness and finance, politics and culture are all there. So maybe in the future...
Thats the best opinion i've heard in ages.
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Old April 13th, 2006, 03:03 PM   #50
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Well, please prove me wrong
Why do you roll your eyes?

Those projects are forecast to be underway next year. These aren't just my random guesses, there are hard facts to prove this.

LBT - see the development schedule on the official website

Heron - site will be vacant next year and it's a speculative build

Leadenhall - British Land announced just the other week that they're starting early on this one

20 Fenchurch Street - if this gets approved then Land Securities are very keen to start on it. The current site will be vacant soon.

St George's Wharf - Recently confirmed that marketing of the tower will start later this year, with construction following soon after

Beetham - judging by their other Beetham Towers around the UK, this will almost certainly start very soon after approval

Multiplex - Developers recently confirmed they'll start on the tower later this year, or early next.

Broadgate - already u/c!

Pan Peninsula - already u/c!
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Old April 13th, 2006, 03:07 PM   #51
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Lets not get into another London is the greatest..no its not ... you have nothing under construction..we will have etc etc thread

Stick to the thread topic- in fact a mod might as well lock this thread - When the bishopsgate foster scheme is officialy realised we can pick it up in one of the other london threads
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Old April 13th, 2006, 03:39 PM   #52
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Timo, I know how about you annoy the person who instigated the annoyance and not the person who retaliated hmm?
all he did was say something in italian (that you mistook for french)

i am not trying to annoy you, just make you realise that some (read: most) of your comments are childish and a bit out of order
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Old April 13th, 2006, 04:03 PM   #53
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erm, dude, you really need to calm down. If i was a mod, I would of given ya a warning by now.

Swearing and a Racist term, all in a three word reply. Wow
How is frog racist? Frog has nothing to do with race. It's only our nickname for the French.
We don't consider the Austrailian's calling us pome's racist. It's the same thing.
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Old April 13th, 2006, 04:22 PM   #54
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I don't wanna get into a discussion about cities relative merits, but London's skyline has lagged behind in terms of high rise design- particularly given the population density. Now I realise one factor would be the age of the city and the extent of listed buildings within the centre, but I had heard rumour of another influence, and I wondered if any of you had heard the same?

I heard that, until recently, there was a bylaw that precluded any construction blocking the view of St Pauls from 7 points outside of the city boundry. That you couldn't interfere with the line of site between the trig points of 7 hills in the surrounding area and the dome of St Pauls. Anyone else heard this?
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Old April 13th, 2006, 04:29 PM   #55
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Yep I've heard of something along those lines. There are still many (English Heritage, Prince Charles etc) who are critical of skyscrapers being built too close to the sightline between St. Paul's and viewpoints across London.
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Old April 13th, 2006, 04:56 PM   #56
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London's skyline has lagged behind in terms of high rise design
Yes, but London has quadrupled its total skyscraper count in the last 5 years, has built the multi-award winning SwissRe Tower and is about to start work on another 30+ skyscrapers over 500ft.
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Old April 13th, 2006, 05:01 PM   #57
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That's written in Italian, not in French.

Not only insulting but also ignorant. What a Loser.
Sure it's ignorant, and I apoligised for it, now move along please.
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Old April 13th, 2006, 05:05 PM   #58
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Not shy, are we? I'd think most (non londoners) will agree NY was a step ahead 70 years ago. And most will agree London was the greatest 150 years ago. So somewhere between those, I guess.

Today; I don't know. I guess it's in the eyes of the beholder. For me, it's no clear victory for London; but maybe it will be. I think London has some of the more interesting projects as far as architecture goes (if they go ahead, that is). Sience, buisness and finance, politics and culture are all there. So maybe in the future...
I would agree with you there. London has the edge over New York NOW because London contains vast Financial (more so than new york), Cultural (maybe less so) Sport, Transportation and Political power. The latter being the weakness in New York. London's Population is also set to overtake NewYork and is also now more cosmopolitan. The true crossroad between West and East

London was pretty poor in the Post War era the 60's, 70's etc. Only now is it starting to get back on its feet.

Back on topic, and yes 2007 is gonna be so exciting. Lets hope 2006 passes quickly, without getting nuked by Iran
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Old April 13th, 2006, 08:31 PM   #59
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I would agree with you there. London has the edge over New York NOW because London contains vast Financial (more so than new york), Cultural (maybe less so) Sport, Transportation and Political power. The latter being the weakness in New York. London's Population is also set to overtake NewYork and is also now more cosmopolitan. The true crossroad between West and East

London was pretty poor in the Post War era the 60's, 70's etc. Only now is it starting to get back on its feet.

Back on topic, and yes 2007 is gonna be so exciting. Lets hope 2006 passes quickly, without getting nuked by Iran
  • New York, hosting the UN, having no political influences ? All countries in the world have at least a consulate in New York City !
  • London population overtaking the one of New York ? You can't be serious ! Firstly, the Greater London is nearly twice larger than New York City in area. Secondly, the 820 kmē of NYC are more populated than the 1,580 kmē of the Greater London (8 million in NYC, 7.2 million in GL). Finally, in an area the size of the Greater London, there are 10 million people ! New York is more peopled, denser, and according to demographic long-range trend has better chances to grow faster.
Sorry to sound harsh, but please be more reasonable.

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