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Old January 5th, 2010, 10:39 AM   #21
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Thanks for the 2 photos in www.urbanrail.net. I still got no answers of my requests -

my request is –
1) Please include here a complete map of Dalian’s tramway network, with interchanges for subway.
2) Can anybody write which year those routes were opened? Write routes year by year.
3) Is there any route planned? If yes, please write details.
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Old January 10th, 2010, 09:37 PM   #22
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From many English & Mandarin websites, I knew that Dalian once had more eight tramway routes. But those routes were closed between 1946 & 1979 step by step. Recently route 201 & 203 were merged to form a longer route & so now there are only two routes, i.e. – 201 & 202.

Can anybody post here a published or self-drawn map of the network with closed routes with names of routes, how it was before 1979?

I’m Waiting for reply eagerly.
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Old January 11th, 2010, 01:22 AM   #23
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looks like tram, not trolley.
In Phildelphia, USA Trams are called Trolleys. I know Trams were called Trolleycars many decades ago.
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Old January 12th, 2010, 01:01 PM   #24
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I also have 2 questions –
a) Has Beijing recently returned tram as a heritage system?
b) Has Shanghai recently returned tram as a modern rubber tired system (like Tianjin)?

Please try to answer these, and also the previous post about the closed tram routes of Dalian.

Is there any English website or official website?

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Old January 13th, 2010, 04:21 PM   #25
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I’ve recently drawn a map of the present tram network. Is it correct? It hasn’t included closed routes. Please add those on this map or redraw a new map.
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Old January 13th, 2010, 08:50 PM   #26
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I also have 2 questions –
a) Has Beijing recently returned tram as a heritage system?
b) Has Shanghai recently returned tram as a modern rubber tired system (like Tianjin)?

Please try to answer these, and also the previous post about the closed tram routes of Dalian.

Is there any English website or official website?
Beijing has introduced trams on the revamped Qianmen Street. I don't see any wire though so I don't know if they are genuine trams.

Shanghai has opened a Translohr line in Zhangjiang. The vehicle used is a cross between a trolleybus and a tram. It still uses conventional wheels but is guided by a guide-rail.
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Old January 14th, 2010, 02:29 AM   #27
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The Qianmen Street trams are just buses in disguise.
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Old January 14th, 2010, 07:51 PM   #28
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The Qianmen Street trams are just buses in disguise.
it's a tram that's not powered by overhead powerlines... but it still is a tram...
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Old January 16th, 2010, 10:54 PM   #29
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Hi!

Here you'll find two photos of Dalian trolleys:

http://www.urbanrail.net/as/dalian/dalian.htm
Another vehicle plagiarized in China
Is it so difficult to project a new tramcar in such a big and developed country?!

I've found in internet that's not only my oppinion:

http://http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Combino

Look what's written on the page's bottom...

But thanks for putting link to photos from Dalian's tram system
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Old January 17th, 2010, 01:38 PM   #30
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Recently, I found a very good link -http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trams_in_Dalian

Can anybody write which year those routes were opened? Write routes year by year.

Waiting for friend's reply---
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Old May 22nd, 2010, 06:09 AM   #31
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From many English & Mandarin websites, I knew that Dalian once had more eight tramway routes. But those routes were closed between 1946 & 1979 step by step. Recently route 201 & 203 were merged to form a longer route & so now there are only two routes, i.e. – 201 & 202.

Can anybody post here a published or self-drawn map of the network with closed routes with names of routes, how it was before 1979?

I’m Waiting for reply eagerly.
Dalian tram #3(from Jiefang square to Zhongshan square) & #5(from Shahekou railway station to Zhoushuizi railway station) were demolished in 1979, replaced with bus #15 & #6. Tram #4 were renamed to #202, #1 -> #201, #2 -> #203 in the year of 1979 too. Today, bus #15 & #6 are still running at the routes which the trams were running 31 years ago.
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Old June 29th, 2010, 10:13 PM   #32
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I think trolley coaches in Dalian are fine, but they are just not seen, so some stranger should have recourse to various surmises.
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Old October 10th, 2010, 03:48 PM   #33
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DALIAN | Metro

Dalian metro seems to be the most ignored by skyscrapercity. It has been 7 years since it opened, making it one of the earliest cities that had a rapid transit system, predating more famous systems like Nanjing metro, Shenzhen metro, and Wuhan metro. Yet in seven years, there had only been a thread or two with only one or two pictures of this elusive system. I managed to scour the internet and compile a collection of the rare and mysterious Dalian metro:

















































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http://www.ask.com/wiki/Dalian_Metro
http://news.tj.soufun.com/2007-06-22/1105659.htm
http://www.cctcct.com/travel-guide/1-8/2955/69471.html
http://bg.dltour.gov.cn/zs/JingQuJD/...id=705&cpage=4
http://wtg-684.blog.163.com/blog/sta...0099209137128/
http://bbs.travel.163.com/bbs/tuyou/160345291.html
http://bbs.66163.com/viewthread.php?tid=668411
http://www.aiyoudalian.cn/Mingzhu/ji...daliankuigui3/
http://blog.163.com/ringo_xz/blog/st...8622104311113/
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Old October 10th, 2010, 05:51 PM   #34
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Brilliant Thread! Always wanted to know more.
Seems more like a Light Rail since its above ground. Only 4-car sets...
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Old October 10th, 2010, 05:52 PM   #35
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Old October 10th, 2010, 06:21 PM   #36
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Brilliant Thread! Always wanted to know more.
Seems more like a Light Rail since its above ground. Only 4-car sets...
Given the tendency for Dalian to be compared with San Francisco, I noticed that Dalian's rapid transit system also resembles the BART. They're both more like suburban rail that only briefly serves the city center.



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Old October 10th, 2010, 06:28 PM   #37
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Map with planned metro from wikipedia, but made by a SSC forumer:


However, Chinese wiki has this map, which doesn't have line 3! (The current line).
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Old October 10th, 2010, 07:21 PM   #38
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Dalian's rapid transit system also resembles the BART
that's pretty queer


The BART is highly stylised plus its power feed's virtually outta sight; Dalian's fouls. (Somebody probably might find the very existence of BART's own stylism due to barely a handful of new networks being brought about then compared to the multitude being brought onstream nowadays.)

BART's looks bleet 70s-in-the-60s and, say, space exploration too; I see no heritage in Dalian's.

Dalian's system has nothing daring-looking about it that could possibly lend to suggesting its often being faulty network, whereas BART's did.

Granted, Dalian's may have some indetectable ability at trendsetting, although claiming some quality of Dalian's as lofty as any of BART's tribute-deserving characteristics would seem daft.

just who's been likening the two systems?

plus how come each of the close-to-ten's-worth of Frisco transit threads here is locked, thereby thwarting replicating my here post within any one of them?!?

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Old October 10th, 2010, 07:54 PM   #39
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This is interesting: Where the two branches join, they actually run parallel for some distance, and one station, Kiafaqu I suppose, is actually two stations side by side, one on each branch.

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&sour...19205&t=h&z=16
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Old October 10th, 2010, 10:22 PM   #40
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Thanks for starting this thread. Maybe we don't have any SSC forumers in Dalian. Was the metro started under Bo Xilai during his tenure in Dalian (now in Chongqing)? He was famous for cleaning up Dalian's environment and living conditions.
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