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Old December 30th, 2013, 08:16 PM   #61
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It's not line 8, but the new metro like train running on the existing #202 tram line.
Its Metro Line 8, B size cars can't even handle the curves on tram 202. Also B size trains are 2.8 meters wide while Dalian's trams are 2.6m wide "D size" so there is a loading gauge issue. "大连市202路轨道线路延伸工程" (Dalian rail line 202 extension project) is the name of the Metro Line 8 project. In other words Line 8 acts as an extension to Tram 202. Just like in my city of Toronto the SRT light metro acts as an extension of the Bloor-Danforth subway line but they don't through run. Its a 快轨 (rapid railway) Just like Lines 3 and 7. It will have cross platform interchange with Line 1 at 河口 Hekou station.

Anyways there is so many incompatibilities between the 2 lines.

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Vehicle is high floor. How will it interface with the low floor tram stops?
Vehicle has exposed couplers and undercarriage, definitely not street legal.

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Double wire centenary, looks muiltphase. Not used in traditional tram systems, see Dalian tram picture above.
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Old December 30th, 2013, 11:21 PM   #62
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As possibly the only non-Chinese-speaking person in the world who cares, may I ask: is Line 8 this east-west green line in the southwest corner of the map here:

http://www.travelchinaguide.com/imag...ian-subway.jpg
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Old December 30th, 2013, 11:58 PM   #63
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As possibly the only non-Chinese-speaking person in the world who cares, may I ask: is Line 8 this east-west green line in the southwest corner of the map here:

http://www.travelchinaguide.com/imag...ian-subway.jpg
Yes
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Old December 31st, 2013, 05:21 AM   #64
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I did some research and yes this is Line 8. It's a metro but share the tram line name #202.

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Old December 31st, 2013, 06:36 AM   #65
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I did some research and yes this is Line 8. It's a metro but share the tram line name #202.

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Extremely interesting dark horse project that caught me by surprise. I expected it finish next year.
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Old December 31st, 2013, 08:41 AM   #66
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Anybody else notice how a lot of recent mainland chinese rolling stock are taking after the HK MTR's interior designs? Especially the seats and the black and yellow strip next to the doors.
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Old December 31st, 2013, 01:22 PM   #67
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Hello
Can anyone please answer these questions?
- How long is metro line 8? (Km)
- How many stations it has? Only 8?
- Is line 8 just an extension of the tram system or is it an independent line? I mean, is line 8 a true metro line, fully segregated?

By the way, is there a good map (in English, sorry) of Dalian Metro System, with all the lines and all the stations?
Thank you very much!

I wish to you all a happy 2014

Woonsocket54: You are not the only person who cares about metro systems in China. I also care about them. But it is very difficult for non chinese-speaking people to get information about chinese systems!
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Old December 31st, 2013, 04:16 PM   #68
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Anybody else notice how a lot of recent mainland chinese rolling stock are taking after the HK MTR's interior designs? Especially the seats and the black and yellow strip next to the doors.
I wouldn't call that an example though.
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Old December 31st, 2013, 04:17 PM   #69
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Wikipedia says Route 202 is 12.6 km long (presumably prior to this extension). This means the route is now 52.98 km long. This is somewhat longer than the A train, NYC's longest subway line (31 miles or 50 km) or the Red Line (31.9 mi or 51.3 km), Washington DC's longest metro line, and is comparable in length to the MAX Blue Line in Portland, OR (32.7 miles or 52.6 km), being slightly shorter than the CTA Blue Line in Chicago, IL (34.6 miles or 55.7 km).

Does the entire line have 8 stops, or does that map only have the names of the major stops?
If you're talking about longest lines then Shanghai can boast much bigger numbers.
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I was just comparing to longer lines in the US. This isn't a ***** contest, but if it were, Seoul Line 1 goes through half the country and must be hundreds of km long.
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Old December 31st, 2013, 07:28 PM   #71
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I was just comparing to longer lines in the US. This isn't a ***** contest, but if it were, Seoul Line 1 goes through half the country and must be hundreds of km long.
Seoul line 1 is not even metro for 90% of its length.
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Hello
Can anyone please answer these questions?
- How long is metro line 8? (Km)
- How many stations it has? Only 8?
- Is line 8 just an extension of the tram system or is it an independent line? I mean, is line 8 a true metro line, fully segregated?

By the way, is there a good map (in English, sorry) of Dalian Metro System, with all the lines and all the stations?
Thank you very much!

I wish to you all a happy 2014

Woonsocket54: You are not the only person who cares about metro systems in China. I also care about them. But it is very difficult for non chinese-speaking people to get information about chinese systems!
Well that makes two of us.

My guess would be that "metro line 202" is a temporary designation as this line is not connected to the other metro lines in Dalian (line 3 and line 7). It only connects to tram # 202. After it is connected, I would imagine it will be called metro line 8.

Happy new year everyone.
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Old January 1st, 2014, 12:53 AM   #73
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Well that makes two of us.

My guess would be that "metro line 202" is a temporary designation as this line is not connected to the other metro lines in Dalian (line 3 and line 7). It only connects to tram # 202. After it is connected, I would imagine it will be called metro line 8.

Happy new year everyone.
It will be connected to Metro Line 1 which opens in 2014.
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Hello
Can anyone please answer these questions?
- How long is metro line 8? (Km)
- How many stations it has? Only 8?
- Is line 8 just an extension of the tram system or is it an independent line? I mean, is line 8 a true metro line, fully segregated?

By the way, is there a good map (in English, sorry) of Dalian Metro System, with all the lines and all the stations?
Thank you very much!

I wish to you all a happy 2014

Woonsocket54: You are not the only person who cares about metro systems in China. I also care about them. But it is very difficult for non chinese-speaking people to get information about chinese systems!

I assume you mean a metro map with standard pinyin for the station names etc. It would be better than an English version if one exists.

As for getting info on Chinese metros then you came to the right forum in terms of getting that info posted up in one place in real time.
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I assume you mean a metro map with standard pinyin for the station names etc. It would be better than an English version if one exists.

As for getting info on Chinese metros then you came to the right forum in terms of getting that info posted up in one place in real time.

Yes, yes, of course. I mean a pinyin map! (not an English translation, sorry. I think sometimes we mix both names: English and latin alphabet...I big error...). Just a map I can read!!!

Thank you.
Then I assume that Dalian has just opened Metro Line 8.
But, is it really a metro line (in a highly populated area, inside a city) or is it a suburban line (Intercity rail line)
Thank you again and xiexie
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Old January 1st, 2014, 05:51 PM   #76
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Thank you.
Then I assume that Dalian has just opened Metro Line 8.
But, is it really a metro line (in a highly populated area, inside a city) or is it a suburban line (Intercity rail line)
Thank you again and xiexie
Mix of both think BART. It connects highly populated areas but the line built and serviced at a metro standard.
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Thank you! I will count it as a full metro line!
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source: http://xihaianbl0411.soufun.com/bbs/..._136229432.htm


source: http://www.panoramio.com/photo_explo...c&user=1090287

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Old January 12th, 2014, 05:42 AM   #79
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So basically this is the line connecting Lüshun and the university area, along the same route as the Lüshun buses?
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Updated map for Dalian on urbanrail.net:

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