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Old October 31st, 2008, 09:18 PM   #501
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Highway 401, which runs through Ontario, Canada, is the busiest highway in North America. It is also sometimes regarded to being the busiest in the entire world, but I haven't seen a creditable source for this statement.
I haven't seen a busier road in the world yet. The busiest in the United States is the I-405 near Seal Beach at 390,000 and I believe the 401 is in the 420,000 range.
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Old November 2nd, 2008, 05:54 AM   #502
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chinese express way toally length has been more than 53600KM at the end of 2007.
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http://gb.cri.cn/1321/2007/01/04/[email protected]
and:http://zhidao.baidu.com/question/72969565.html?si=1

at the end of 2008, totally length can reach 55000KM,2010,65000KM
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Old November 2nd, 2008, 08:40 AM   #503
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wow great picture; now ,this is a real highway
thanks Haljackey
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Old November 2nd, 2008, 08:42 AM   #504
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Highway 401, which runs through Ontario, Canada, is the busiest highway in North America. It is also sometimes regarded to being the busiest in the entire world, but I haven't seen a creditable source for this statement.

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Old November 2nd, 2008, 08:45 AM   #505
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and please everyone ,don't include unpaved road a highway,coz its year 2008
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Old November 2nd, 2008, 10:15 AM   #506
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18 lanes and still jammed. No wonder it's in the 420k a day range.
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Old November 2nd, 2008, 03:18 PM   #507
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and please everyone ,don't include unpaved road a highway,coz its year 2008
What about motorways paved with cobble stones? :p
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Old November 3rd, 2008, 08:43 PM   #508
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am talking about this picture
Yes I know. I may also be incorrect, but that may also be the widest highway in North America (and again, possibly the world but there's no creditable sources). At 18 lanes wide (22 including those connecting lanes), it certainly is a beast.
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Old November 4th, 2008, 02:21 AM   #509
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Yeah, and imagine an accident on 401 during rush hour
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Old November 4th, 2008, 01:06 PM   #510
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Especially one that blocks the entire road. You're really screwed if that happens
That's also what is better about e.g. Germany. If an important road gets blocked, there are mostly enough oppurtunities to get around.
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Old November 5th, 2008, 03:46 PM   #511
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South African highways are pretty underated:

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Old November 5th, 2008, 06:27 PM   #512
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Yeah, they are neat and some of them look pretty massive
And indeed they don't get much of the publicity.
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Old November 7th, 2008, 10:15 PM   #513
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I calculate Germany have 12.624 kilometer of roads, classified as an Autobahn. However, some Autobahns have the lack of emergency lanes.

Another 1.561 kilometer is classified as "Autobahnähnlich" in the ADAC 1:150.000 road atlas.

This would bring the total amount in Germany to 14.185 kilometers.

However, there is one "but".

A lot of Autobahnähnliche (Motorway-like) roads are urban arterials with grade separated intersections. They often have the lack of emergency lanes, and proper on and offramps. They also have often a bad geometry, and a speed limit lower as 80km/h.

Some Autobahnähnliche roads doesn't have any median or middle barrier at all, these are not taken into the account of 1.561 kilometers.

However, a lot of Autobahnähnliche roads are fully up to motorway standards, sometimes even without a speed limit. Therefore, the number of 14.185 kilometers cannot all be taken into account of "motorway-grade roads".
I'm interested in how you counted this. I added up all stretches of dualled non-motorway roads in Germany which are completely grade-separated and stretch over two junctions at least and got a total length of 1641,7 km.

Now I wonder what you mean by bad design standards and in which way they disqualify one of these roads from this competition.
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Old November 9th, 2008, 09:40 PM   #514
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The list so far in Europe;

Motorway-called roads
1. Spain 12.946 - Autovía & Autopista
2. Germany 12.624 - Autobahn
3. France 10.689 - Autoroute

Expressways with motorway characteristics
1. France 3.097 - Voie Expresse
2. Germany 1.561 - Autobahnähnlich & Gelbe Autobahn
3. Spain 0* - Via Rapida**

Total:
1. Germany 14.185
2. France 13.786
3. Spain 12.946

* Only difference between Autovías and Autopistas are tolls.
** A Via Rapida is a one lane expressway, and therefore not taken into account.

What can we see from this list? Well, the three countries are close to eachother. However, they have various population (densities) and AADT. Counted to population, Spain wins by far, and Germany comes out worse.

Spain also has the largest amount of the highest design standards, France has the lowest. Germany is in between, but it has to be noted, that some German Autobahnen have no emergency lane, also in rural areas.

Still, a decent comparison is hard, since France's Voie Expresses (motorway-like roads) have a higher design standard as German Autobahnähnliche roads. Spanish Autovías have the same design standards and Vmax as their Autobahn, Autopista & Autoroute counterparts.
1. France 3.097 - Voie Expresse

I have to say I'm very surprised. There are 380 voies express in France, and some of them are 100 kms and more.

Even if the average of these 380 voies express is 10 kms it still makes 3800 kilometers...

I don't know but I found this site : SARATLAS

These people seem to share the same passion with you

As for the lengtt of the french network here they say 11810 km in 2001...

Franceautoroutes

I don't understand actually...
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Old November 11th, 2008, 10:30 PM   #515
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Source: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showth...2#post11619612 :

Let`s make some changes to the list by ChrisZwolle. All data from this thread.

So,

China has 55.000 km
Germany 14.185 km
France 13.786 km
Spain 12.946 km
Canada 6.165 km
Malaysia 1471 km
Poland 1200 km - plus 1000 km dual carriageway, but non-grade separated roads from socialistic times, togather 2200 km
Czechia 1002 km
Iraq 2227 km - interesting thing is, most of these roads were built by polish companies in 1980's.
Norway 350 km
Sweden 1700 km
Morocco 1152 km

The changed list contains only dual carriageway (four or more lanes), grade separated (access controlled, limited-access) roads:

Highways, motorways, expressways in length:

1) United States 75.009 km
2) China 55.000 km (growing over 4500km each year)
3) Germany 14.185 km
4) France 13.786 km
5) Spain 12.946 km
6) Brazil 11.000 km
7) Japan 6.946 km
8) Italy 6.621 km
9) Canada 6.165 km
10) Mexico 6.144 km (growing fast)
11) India 4885 km (seems unlikely to me)
12) Saudi Arabia 3348 km
13) Thailand 2885 km (are those all expressways?)
14) Chile 2653 km
15) Netherlands 2360 km
16) Iraq 2227 km (i don't think they are all motorways)
17) Pakistan 2225 km
18) Portugal 2002 km
19) South Korea 1996 km
20) South Africa 1927 km
21) Ukraine 1770 km (most of them are grade-expressways i guess)
22) Belgium 1729 km
23) Turkey 1726 km
24) Australia 1700 km
24) Sweden 1700 km
26) Austria 1677 km
27) Switzerland 1638 km
28) Malaysia 1471 km
29) United Arab Emirates 1392 km
30) Poland 1346 km
31) Venezuela 1256 km
32) Nigeria 1194 km
33) Morocco 1152 km
34) Croatia 1050 km
35) Griekenland 1030km
36) Denmark 1010km
37) Czechia 1002km
Egypt 988km ( i doubt of all these motorways are real motorways)
Syria 877km
Taiwan 872km
Hungary 860km
Russia 770km
Iran 751km
Belarus 750km
Argentina 734km
Finland 653km
Algeria 640km
Cuba 638km
Serbia 560km
Oman 550km
Lithuania 523km
Slovenia 442km
Kuwait 420km
Jordan 401km
Indonesia 385km (i thought they had more)
Norway 350 km
Qatar 333km
Uzbekistan 332km
Bulgaria 328km
El Salvador 327km
Slovakia 316km
Cyprus 276km
Peru 276km
Romania 266km
Dominican Republic 263km
Libya 262km
Uruguay 252km
Tunisia 249km
Cameroon 240km
Macedonia 192km
Philippines 170km ( i thought they had more)
Cote d’Ivoire 162km
Kenya 153km
Singapore 150km
Lebanon 145km
New Zealand 144km
Latvia 132km
Israel 126km
Luxembourg 114km
Myanmar 101km
Vietnam 100km (new motorways)
Estonia 75km
Zambia 50km
Ghana 35km
Jamaica 33km
Bahrain 30km
Gabon 30km
Guinea-Bissau 15km

GRAND TOTAL: 259.027km

You must notice, that a motorway in Cameroon or The Dominican Republic can completely differ from what we seen in Europe and the United States. Length shown here can be seen as highly controversial for some countries. Most data token from wikipedia or the CIA Factbook, and, in some rare cases, i figured it out with maps.

Sometimes, wikipedia doesn’t seems to be very accurate, for example they say Australia has about 16000kms of Expressway, which seems to me as highly unlikely.

Any comments or corrections are very welcome.

Before i starting to figure this out, i thought, there were some 270.000 kilometers of motorway/expressways on our globe, and, it seems to be i was quite close to that.

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Old November 12th, 2008, 10:26 AM   #516
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Is this list with expressways? Or do you guys only count highways?
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Old November 12th, 2008, 10:38 AM   #517
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Either way, Morocco has 897.5 km of dual carriageway (four or more lanes) and 255 km of grade separated (access controlled) roads (2x2):

Total of 1152.5km
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Old November 12th, 2008, 11:29 AM   #518
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Source: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showth...2#post11619612 :

Let`s make some changes to the list by ChrisZwolle. All data from this thread.

So,

China has 55.000 km
Germany 14.185 km
France 13.786 km
Spain 12.946 km
Canada 6.165 km
Malaysia 1471 km
Poland 1200 km - plus 1000 km dual carriageway, but non-grade separated roads from socialistic times, togather 2200 km
Czechia 1002 km
16) Iraq 2227 km (i don't think they are all motorways) - interesting thing is, most of these roads were built by polish companies in 1980's.

The changed list contains only dual carriageway (four or more lanes), grade separated (access controlled) roads:

in length:

1) United States 75.009 km
2) China 55.000 km (growing over 4500km each year)
3) Germany 14.185 km
4) France 13.786 km
5) Spain 12.946 km
6) Brazil 11.000 km
7) Japan 6.946 km
8) Italy 6.621 km
9) Canada 6.165 km
10) Mexico 6.144 km (growing fast)
11) India 4885 km (seems unlikely to me)
12) Saudi Arabia 3348 km
13) Thailand 2885 km (are those all expressways?)
14) Chile 2653 km
15) Netherlands 2360 km
16) Iraq 2227 km (i don't think they are all motorways)
17) Pakistan 2225 km
18) Portugal 2002 km
19) South Korea 1996 km
20) South Africa 1927 km
21) Ukraine 1770 km (most of them are grade-expressways i guess)
22) Belgium 1729 km
23) Turkey 1726 km
24) Australia 1700 km
25) Austria 1677 km
26) Switzerland 1638 km
27) Malaysia 1471 km
28) Sweden 1428 km
29) United Arab Emirates 1392 km
30) Venezuela 1256 km
31) Poland 1200 km
32) Nigeria 1194 km
33) Croatia 1050 km
34) Griekenland 1030km
35) Denmark 1010km
36) Czechia 1002km
Egypt 988km ( i doubt of all these motorways are real motorways)
Syria 877km
Taiwan 872km
Hungary 860km
Morocco 818km
Russia 770km
Iran 751km
Belarus 750km
Argentina 734km
Finland 653km
Algeria 640km
Cuba 638km
Serbia 560km
Oman 550km
Lithuania 523km
Slovenia 442km
Kuwait 420km
Jordan 401km
Indonesia 385km (i thought they had more)
Qatar 333km
Uzbekistan 332km
Bulgaria 328km
El Salvador 327km
Slovakia 316km
Cyprus 276km
Peru 276km
Romania 266km
Dominican Republic 263km
Libya 262km
Uruguay 252km
Tunisia 249km
Cameroon 240km
Macedonia 192km
Philippines 170km ( i thought they had more)
Cote d’Ivoire 162km
Kenya 153km
Singapore 150km
Lebanon 145km
New Zealand 144km
Latvia 132km
Norway 128km
Israel 126km
Luxembourg 114km
Myanmar 101km
Vietnam 100km (new motorways)
Estonia 75km
Zambia 50km
Ghana 35km
Jamaica 33km
Bahrain 30km
Gabon 30km
Guinea-Bissau 15km

GRAND TOTAL: 259.027km

You must notice, that a motorway in Cameroon or The Dominican Republic can completely differ from what we seen in Europe and the United States. Length shown here can be seen as highly controversial for some countries. Most data token from wikipedia or the CIA Factbook, and, in some rare cases, i figured it out with maps.

Sometimes, wikipedia doesn’t seems to be very accurate, for example they say Australia has about 16000kms of Expressway, which seems to me as highly unlikely.

Any comments or corrections are very welcome.

Before i starting to figure this out, i thought, there were some 270.000 kilometers of motorway/expressways on our globe, and, it seems to be i was quite close to that.
I know the Norwegian network is bad, but 128 kms..? Give me a break, that was the figure in the late 70s... Today, it's at 280 kms or thereabouts, and come 24 Nov, the E6 in Østfold is completed, increasing the network to just over 300 kms. In addition, there are a few multilane grade-separated roads in Oslo, Trondheim and Bergen which are not included, which would take the total network length to about 350 kms. Even the Swedish network is a bit longer than suggested, I think 1700 kms has been mentioned on the Sweden forum.
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欢迎到摩天大楼城市! 您可以显示我们一些图片吗? 并且下次如果可能, 您可以讲话用英语吗? 谢谢!
I see that I posted when this thread began...

and looking back..... I'm baffled as to why I posted this since I do not speak Chinese whatsoever.
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