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Old February 16th, 2009, 04:06 PM   #581
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No he wasn't. He just abused the motorway for propaganda values.
like our government?
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Old February 16th, 2009, 04:13 PM   #582
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Indeed, last year, when we had elections, record 100 km of new motorways opened here (which is a huge number for such a small country).
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Old February 16th, 2009, 06:16 PM   #583
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yeah, indeed...

in case of hungary opening of 500km would be proportional to your achievement...
(our record is only somewhere between 250 and 300km...)
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Old February 16th, 2009, 07:59 PM   #584
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Which year were 250-300 km of motorways opened in Hungary?
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Old February 17th, 2009, 11:06 AM   #585
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Were? Will be 2010. Maybe.
[fingers crossed]

I need hardly say 2010 is elections year.
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Old February 17th, 2009, 03:10 PM   #586
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Let's try to stay on topic.
If you have something constructive to say about the dB innitiative, it is the place.
If not, please keep it to the .hu thread (or better, let's create an Austro-Hungarian Empire territory thread so we can successfully integrate a discussion like the one above...).
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Old February 21st, 2009, 05:53 PM   #587
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Danke für diese Links, ABRob !
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Old February 21st, 2009, 06:13 PM   #588
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Between 1935 and 1968, there was barely any Autobahn construction in Germany. But at least they already started with some kind of a system, most countries started from scratch in the 1960's.
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Old February 21st, 2009, 06:21 PM   #589
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And now brand-new, road-opening-map by http://autobahnatlas-online.de/

Map: http://autobahnatlas-online.de/Freigabenkarte.pdf
Legend: http://autobahnatlas-online.de/LegendeFreigaben.pdf
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Old March 2nd, 2009, 08:24 PM   #590
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This is a summary of how the The Global Competitiveness Report 2008-2009 of the World Economic Forum rank the highways of the world:

(For the full report, with country names in English, check the original report: http://www.weforum.org/documents/gcr0809/index.html. The report is made by interviewing 10-12 000 top leaders around the globe.

I am not sure whether the Dutch forumers agree that their roads (at 25th place) lag behind those of the UK (24) and Namibia (23), but Spain is even lower at 30th place. At least Norway is correctly placed at 48th place...
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Old March 2nd, 2009, 08:27 PM   #591
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There is no way Namibia's roads are ahead of South Africa's. Where do these people fall out of?
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Old March 2nd, 2009, 08:40 PM   #592
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Hungary as of 2008: 1174 km of highways
(until 2014, about 500 kms will be added)
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Old March 2nd, 2009, 10:32 PM   #593
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This is a summary of how the The Global Competitiveness Report 2008-2009 of the World Economic Forum rank the highways of the world:
Infrastructure: "The page cannot be found". If Belgian roads are 11th in the world, it says a lot about the rank.
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Old March 2nd, 2009, 10:34 PM   #594
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Road quality
1 = underdeveloped, 7 = most effective
International standard
Survey compromises 134 countries

So far for my Norwegian
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Old March 2nd, 2009, 10:38 PM   #595
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...is sth known only outside Belgium. Or Belgian ordinary roads are significantly better than motorways?
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Old March 2nd, 2009, 10:48 PM   #596
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No, they are worse :P

Well, it depends, they have improved quite some, especially in Flandres. E25 and E411 are fine now, E42 could be better.
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Old March 2nd, 2009, 11:07 PM   #597
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I read the list in Norwegian, I didn't find France the first time.
I admit that I missed beginning of the list.
France = Frankrike
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Old March 2nd, 2009, 11:12 PM   #598
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There is no way Namibia's roads are ahead of South Africa's. Where do these people fall out of?
"These people" are our leaders, not necessarily those that drive the most, of course. The difference betweeen SA and Namibia can perhaps be explained from traffic density. Namibia certainly has far lower car density than SA, and hence does not need as impressive roads in order to get the same level of effectiveness.
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Infrastructure: "The page cannot be found". If Belgian roads are 11th in the world, it says a lot about the rank.
I think the HTML-page is dependent on IE-use. Try download the whole report: http://www.weforum.org/pdf/GCR08/GCR08.pdf

The full table is at page 386 (or page 398 in the pdf-document)

Italy is btw at 55th place, but then Italian roads outside the autostradas can be a bit scary at places...
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1 = underdeveloped, 7 = most effective
International standard
Survey compromises 134 countries

So far for my Norwegian
Not bad (although it should be "According to international standard", whatever that means.)

If it is any conciliation for you, NL ranks 8th while B ranks 19th in overall competitiveness.
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Old March 2nd, 2009, 11:44 PM   #599
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"These people" are our leaders, not necessarily those that drive the most, of course. The difference betweeen SA and Namibia can perhaps be explained from traffic density. Namibia certainly has far lower car density than SA, and hence does not need as impressive roads in order to get the same level of effectiveness.
Ah, that is true. The list is rather flawed in that case then.
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Old March 2nd, 2009, 11:45 PM   #600
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The full table is at page 386
385. :P Ok, so it's about quality of road networks; I thought it was about quality of pavement. If pavement isn't considered at all, I can understand Belgium being 11th. But it should've been considered, that's the problem.
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