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Old January 13th, 2007, 10:11 PM   #141
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I heard that there are plans, to widen the French A7 from Lyon to Orange to 2x5 lanes. That is some 200 km too.
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Old January 13th, 2007, 11:42 PM   #142
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2x5?! That would be amazing!
Well, the traffic jams on the A7 in the summer are extremely notorious in Europe. Sometimes there is a traffic jam from Lyon to the Spanish border. You really do not want to be on the Southern France roads on saturdays in July.

But the A7 is one of the busiest transitroutes in France, considering the A75 and A20 to the north are much more hillier with steep gradients. The A7 is mostly on flat terrain in the Rhōne river valley, so much freight and tourism traffic uses the A7 instead of the (toll free) A75.
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Old January 14th, 2007, 12:11 AM   #143
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One thing that becomes noteworthy: highways/motorways in France are run privately! In other threads you'll find mentions of how France is state run, as a matter of fact though the autobahnen aren't run by the state.
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Old January 14th, 2007, 12:19 AM   #144
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princes freeway west - tunnels - princes freeway east?? the tunnels go down to 3 lanes each though.

also what about pacific motorway in brisbane..that is 4 + 4 for quite a way
the melbourne one will be longer
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Old January 14th, 2007, 01:02 AM   #145
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Well, the traffic jams on the A7 in the summer are extremely notorious in Europe. Sometimes there is a traffic jam from Lyon to the Spanish border. You really do not want to be on the Southern France roads on saturdays in July.

Believe me, I know very well what are the french roads in teh summer.

But still, a jam till the border of Spain is a bit exagerated!
Still, it's true that monster traffic jams occur, especially from between Orange and Paris.
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Old January 14th, 2007, 01:05 AM   #146
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But still, a jam till the border of Spain is a bit exagerated!
Well, i've checked www.asf.fr in the summer, and the graphic showed the entire route from Lyon to the border in orange or red. And the part between Perpignan and the border is only 2+2 lanes. And so is the part from Nīmes to Orange. That strech can get pretty windy too, by the way. (mistral).
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Old January 14th, 2007, 03:54 AM   #147
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^The traffic can be very congested, but a complete stop from the border until orange would be too much.

And yes, the 3 lanes end a bit after Perpignan, and it is indeed a very windy area, but there's much less trafic than in that streach of the A9 than on those streaches from Montpelier onwards, so it's usually not to much of a problem. Most of the freeways in france(as the majority of the "long haul" freways in Europe) are 2 lane in each direction, so, it's nothing special.
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Old January 14th, 2007, 11:30 AM   #148
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the melbourne one will be longer
But the tunnels in the middle are only 3 lanes wide so you could only count the Monash Freeway from Burnley St to Heatherton Rd or the West Gate Freeway from the Kings Way exit to wherever the 4 laned section ends.
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Old January 14th, 2007, 12:14 PM   #149
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true but its a tiny portion of the freeway.

if you add up all the 8 lane freeways in each Australasian city, Melbourne would still come out on top
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Old January 14th, 2007, 12:35 PM   #150
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Old January 14th, 2007, 12:44 PM   #151
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Old January 14th, 2007, 01:08 PM   #152
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Old January 14th, 2007, 10:38 PM   #153
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Don't know its length, but LA has a couple of 8+8 and 9+9 highways.
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9+9 lanes? I haven't seen one direction wider than 6 or 7 lanes in width. Maybe it has some more lanes, but that must be with parallel lanes.
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I think in Turkey it's the ring road around Ankara which is about 115 km.




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there are a few in LA that have at least 4 X 4, and i think the 210 from San Bernardino to Sun Valley would be at least 4 X 4 the whole way for a distance of roughly 60 miles. The 5 freeway has portions in LA that are only 3 X 3, same with the 110. Maybe the 405 or the 101 would have longer distances than the 210 and possibly the 10.
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That Ankara ring with 4x4 in all it's length is impressive!
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there are a few in LA that have at least 4 X 4, and i think the 210 from San Bernardino to Sun Valley would be at least 4 X 4 the whole way for a distance of roughly 60 miles. The 5 freeway has portions in LA that are only 3 X 3, same with the 110. Maybe the 405 or the 101 would have longer distances than the 210 and possibly the 10.
I believe that the I-10, between San Bernardino and Santa Monica has at least 4 lanes in each direction. It's about 125 km long.
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Old January 15th, 2007, 03:10 AM   #159
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true but its a tiny portion of the freeway.

if you add up all the 8 lane freeways in each Australasian city, Melbourne would still come out on top
AFTER this new upgrade you're talking about, Melbourne would have the most, but also keep in mind that the 8 lane section of the M1 in Brisbane is being extended from Logan to Eight Mile Plains, along with the expansion of the Gateway Motorway to up to 12 lanes at the Gateway Bridge.

But all this doesn't really matter as this thread is talking about CONTINUOUS stretches of 4+4 highway in which case, the 3 lane tunnels split Melbournes 4+4 freeways into two.
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the section of westgate between the bridge and bolte is getting expanded to 12 lanes and the remainder to the tunnel to 10 lanes.
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