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Old April 23rd, 2006, 10:06 AM   #641
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You people are really comparing apples to oranges.

EU is NOT just "Germany, France and UK". As such, they cant be the only example.

You cant compare North Dakota with France. You cant compare Luisiana with Germany. In the same way, you cant compare Ney York with Romania, or California with Slovakia.

Lets look at some arguments

"while the US has big highways, they have traffic jams".

Every been to Rome? Ever driven in Athens? Theyre just as bad, if not worse. At least drivers in LA dont stand on their car horns.

"Europe has a much better train network"

True. But at what price? Compare ticket prices of trips in Europe and the US and the US will probably come out cheaper.

Public Transport.

I was in London in March, and noticed that the price for a SINGLE RIDE on the tube was 3 pounds. You know, 5 dollars? For one ride?

You damn well be getting a good system.

(I purchased a day pass for £4.90...which was only for zones 1 and 2)

Now lets look at where I live, Boston.



That looks like public transport to me.

Should I take the bus for 90 cents, or get on the train for FREE? (outbound, above ground is free, inbound is $1.25)



The other day I took a Train to Worcester. It was a one hour ride on a 2 floor train, and it cost me $6. In London, I could have taken a single ride on the cramped subway for the same price.
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Old April 23rd, 2006, 11:23 AM   #642
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London tube are expensive

But Paris RATP system (Metro,RER in Paris, bus and Tramway) simple ticket cost 1€40
And for ten ticket it is 10€50

One ticket is only for a single ride.

It is right South European and Parisian are bad driver

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With traffic light

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Old April 23rd, 2006, 07:12 PM   #643
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China maybe should be in this comparission as well?
They have a great national train network (at any given time, 10 million Chinese is riding a train), with large Maglev projects approved. Their highway system (especially in eastern China) is already exceptional, and they're building much more highway than any country in the world every day.
Public transportation is not world class, but definately US standard or better. Many Chinese cities have metro/subway/skytrain, and more to come...

EU is of course top of the league as of now, though. US isn't even close.
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Old April 23rd, 2006, 10:00 PM   #644
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China is not there yet. Only a few cities have passable public transport. Rail service is far behind Europe, and highway infrastructure lags the United States.
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Old April 23rd, 2006, 10:44 PM   #645
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EU is of course top of the league as of now, though. US isn't even close.
I actually disagree. I think Japan has the highest quality infrastructure of any country (or union of countries) in the world. In general, the EU has great infrastructure, however i found there to be significant disparities in quality between countries so its hard to generalize. Regardless I think the EU has the second best infrastructure system in the world, after Japan.

Regarding China, it has a rapidly growing highway and train networks. I took the overnight train from Shanghai to Beijing and was suprised by the quality of trains in use. The service was excellent and the trains were much nicer than the overnight ones I was on in Europe.
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Old April 26th, 2006, 07:18 PM   #646
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u just proved my point... the USA alone as a country still holds weight against 25 wannabe superpowers put together
a post by a baby-sorry XD
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Old April 26th, 2006, 07:19 PM   #647
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Infrastructure is used to support the economy. America's GDP per capita is a lot more than that of the EU as a whole, and more than all but one or two European countries individually. So I don't know how you can say that America's infrastructure is inferior to Europe's, when it is capable of supporting such a massive economy.
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Old July 5th, 2006, 09:19 PM   #648
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Southern California Freeways are not good.
I drove through Southen California, they have little ridges on the freeway.
My car's tires were making noise from the ridges the whole time during driving on the freeway.
The highways in NewYorkCity are bumpy.and also the lanes in the tunnel of NewYorkCity are norrow, I was having difficulty in driving through the tunnel in NewYorkCity.
The reason for the ridges are for safety purposes...therefore, we can't complain about something that is put there for the safety of drivers and passengers!!
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Old July 5th, 2006, 09:27 PM   #649
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[QUOTE=mr_storms]Calfornia's Insterstate 280 between San Jose and San Fransisco is very nice. The part through san mateo county is very scenic as there is little developement there.


I must agree with you...but I'd like to add that California as a whole, has very beautiful drives! Whether it is on the coast, in the valleys, Death Valley, the American Sahara or Sierra Nevada...it has beauty like no other state! Within the state, you can see areas similar to BC<WA<OR.....The actual Sahara Desert, the Mediterranean, Greek Isles, etc.

In Europe though, there are so many similar drives one may take ...especially those that take you thru tranquil settings, full of historic interest and more! Here in Greece within minutes, an hour or two, you can go skiing, waterskiing, swim on the beach, see ancient sites, see vineyards, orchards etc., Think about the topography one must drive thru to see all this stuff! Though a very tough competitor since this is for America, I believe Calif. wins hands down!!!
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Old July 5th, 2006, 09:34 PM   #650
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The reason for the ridges are for safety purposes...therefore, we can't complain about something that is put there for the safety of drivers and passengers!!
thats right, the ridges are called "rain grooves" for safer winter driving. if the concrete was just flat, all the cars would be slipping out of control.

however, the best solution is to pave the freeways with actual asphalt, but the state is too damn cheap to do that.
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Old July 6th, 2006, 12:09 AM   #651
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In SOUTH AMERICA... The best road, freeways, highways, etc! in VENEZUELA!
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Old July 6th, 2006, 12:16 AM   #652
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Roads in Beverly Hills, California
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Old July 6th, 2006, 02:52 PM   #653
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thats right, the ridges are called "rain grooves" for safer winter driving. if the concrete was just flat, all the cars would be slipping out of control.

however, the best solution is to pave the freeways with actual asphalt, but the state is too damn cheap to do that.
Umm... You're supposed to slant the roads downwards from the center lane, so the rain drains off. A very slight slight is sufficient. I'm surprised California's engineers can figure out to make stack interchanges, but they didn't know that.
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Old July 6th, 2006, 09:46 PM   #654
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Traction in rain for the tires
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Old July 7th, 2006, 12:49 AM   #655
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Yea the grooves help in rain and ice good traction. They had those in Dallas in the roads i dont know why your tires were making noise though i never heard much.
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Old July 8th, 2006, 02:06 AM   #656
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Very scenic drive all the way around Lake Tahoe.

"The fairest view the whole earth affords." - Mark Twain



Drive through Cave Rock.


Emerald Bay
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Old July 8th, 2006, 02:36 AM   #657
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Lots of people like to cruise up and down the Las Vegas Strip

















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Old July 8th, 2006, 04:35 AM   #658
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Merritt/Wilber Cross Parkway in my state...

No truck traffic, forested settings, going all the way to NYC, great bridges...

The parkways in NYC, even though narrow and not up to interstate standards, are very nice as well, feels like driving through parks in the cities. Better than I-95.
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Old July 8th, 2006, 06:52 AM   #659
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Lots of people like to cruise up and down the Las Vegas Strip
How can anyone cruise up and down the LV Strip? It's constantly congested, and is an absolutely hellish drive.
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Well it's relatively free-flowing past 2am...
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