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Old March 17th, 2010, 02:27 PM   #961
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Actually in NA motorways have a large amount of lanes in urban areas.
Interstates normally got 2X2 lanes
Then very long interstates could have even branches that simply are a common 1+1 lane road, as here in Canada
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Actually, this section was twinned at the end of 2008. You can see the new section using Street View in the same location as your link . The aerial photos are too old.

However, being twinned doesn't always mean being a motorway. If you explore the Trans-Canada Highway in many of its rural parts around Manitoba and Saskatchewan, you will see that it has at-grade intersections, although the right of way always belongs to the drivers on the highway (i.e. no traffic lights, but rather yield-type intersections with short acceleration lanes). This allows many small towns to be connected without building interchanges on sections that have no traffic almost. Speed limit is 110 km/h.

Though I suspect that 2-lane roads, while they can possibly extend from Interstates in the US, would not be classified as Interstates. The Canadian example isn't perfect because the TCH is not a motorway (although it is a motorway in many places, and is being upgraded continuously).
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Old March 17th, 2010, 03:39 PM   #962
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A shot of O3 around Copenhagen, after the expansion:


A shot of Køge Bugt motorway (South of Copenhagen) at the final stage of it's expansion:


Right now, Holbæk motorway (West of Copenhagen) is being expanded around Roskilde. couldn't find any shots of the construction site as it looks now, but I guess I could go take a photo this weekend. Currently, the motorway bridge at Maglegårdsvej has been torn down partly (the bridge itself stands, but the two ends of it has been demolished, to move them back so 2 more lanes can fit under). It's rather impressive that all this work is being done while the motorway itself remains open.
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Old March 17th, 2010, 10:23 PM   #963
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... I know that here in the UK pretty much all highways are 6 lanes. Its only in a few places that they go up to 8 or 10. In the US the highways in general are much bigger.
Only one highway in my area (southwest Virginia) is more than 6 lanes and that's Interstate 581/US 220 through Roanoke. There's i think one 10-lane road between Blacksburg and Christiansburg, but it's a surface road, not a highway.

The vast majority of highways, including interstates, are 4 lanes.

There's a section of US rt. 29 north of Lynchburg paved with concrete, and from looking at the pavement and the surrounding terrain it's clear that it's recently bulit. That section of highway is without a doubt in the best condition of any highway I've ever been on; most other highways are in decent condition, but Interstate 81 is in really bad condition. And VDOT (the state transportation authority, responsible for highway maintenance) is, like the rest of the state government, losing a lot of money very quickly... so no new projects, and there are plenty of places that need to be upgraded...
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Old March 17th, 2010, 10:41 PM   #964
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"Why European Highways are much better than American ones?? "

Certainly, the person claiming this did not think about Norwegian roads....
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Old March 18th, 2010, 03:34 PM   #965
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If you look at the older Autobahnen in Germany, or the non-tolled Autoroutes in France, you'll see the pavement quality isn't always that good.

For example, this is the German A30, just across the Dutch border. It opened in 1989.
That is the worst Autobahn I have driven. Just look at these pics:

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Old March 19th, 2010, 09:25 AM   #966
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Just from my recent experience. I went on vacation to Germany, but to get there, I had to drive from Washington state to California. So, I will compare only motorway quality.

1) I drove 1600 km in Washington, Oregon and California: Washington and Oregon motorway quality is anywhere from 3 to 4 (on a scale of 5). California was from 2+ to 4.
2) Drove 1600 km on A6 in Germany and A4 in France. German quality was from 4 to 5, and the French quality was from 3+ to 4+.
3) Drove 1600 km in California, Nevada, and Idaho. The motorway quality in California was from 1 to 4. Nevada was from 4+ to 5, Idaho was from 2+ to 3+.

So, the quality of I-80 in Nevada between Reno and Winnemucca beats both German A6 in South-West Germany and A4 in France east of Paris, hands down. However, Oregon and Washington motorway quality is lagging compared to European one. California was by far the worst compared to other states and other countries. Especially the stretch of I-80 in Sierra county was the worst of the worst Back in 2007, I posted a report on I-80 east of Sacramento, and since then they did not do any improvement in the E/B direction.
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Old March 21st, 2010, 04:10 AM   #967
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Its no doubt that Europe has better quaility highways than the US.
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Old March 23rd, 2010, 08:32 PM   #968
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Old July 4th, 2010, 08:55 AM   #969
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That is the worst Autobahn I have driven. Just look at these pics:

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That is a beautiful stretch of road! Just come down to So. Cal, and we'll show you what real bad roads look like.
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Old July 4th, 2010, 04:18 PM   #970
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That's nothing. This is a real traffic jam

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Old July 4th, 2010, 04:45 PM   #971
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Is that seriously real?
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Old July 4th, 2010, 04:46 PM   #972
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That's a good question. I actually do not know
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Old July 4th, 2010, 04:50 PM   #973
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No it's a bad photoshop. It's actually the I-405 in Los Angeles, probably viewed from the Getty Center.
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Old July 4th, 2010, 06:08 PM   #974
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Europe (Lisbon)...


...and USA (San Francisco)

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Old July 10th, 2010, 08:36 AM   #975
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Wait, was the whole thing made of concrete or just some parts? If it's only a few parts then that's most likely a rumble strip which is meant to alert sleepy drivers of things like toll booths and merging lanes.

But you have to remember, the US highway system dates back to Truman and started in the 1950s with Eisenhower and only "finished" in the 1990s. The problem is that you can't expect America to fix all the roadways at once, for obvious reasons like money and traffic problems. So once construction finishes on a highway, they move to the next few highways and by that time the first highway needs to be repaved or fixed. It's a constant battle, especially on high volume highways.

The main obstacle is money of course. Every state has its problems with paying for the highway system. Americans (generally) hate the word "tax" and so states have to think of creative ways to pay for highway projects.

So overall I think it's unrealistic to think that every highway could be in tip-top shape.
European highways in 1940


Same highway in 2010:







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Old July 10th, 2010, 08:38 AM   #976
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You forgot to add this picture:



running INSIDE the bridge at lisboa ...

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...and USA (San Francisco)
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Old July 10th, 2010, 09:52 AM   #977
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That is a beautiful stretch of road! Just come down to So. Cal, and we'll show you what real bad roads look like.
Please permit me to do that first - Hemus highway in Bulgaria, near Shumen:














I bet you haven't seen anything worse that that. That section of the highway ( around 35km ) is abandoned since many years ago and no reconstruction is going to be made soon. Bulgaria has the worst roads in EU at all.

@909 - we'd love to have highways like yours in Germany.
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I´m sure you can find roads with so bad condition elswhere too.
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But that's not just a road, that's one of the very few highways in our country. And we pretend to be one of the growing countries in EU. The photos are from a section, that is less than 15 years old, and it's supposed to be for 130km/h.

Last but not least, Serbian highways are miles ahead, compared to ours, dispite being in war ten years ago.
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But that's not just a road, that's one of the very few highways in our country. And we pretend to be one of the growing countries in EU. The photos are from a section, that is less than 15 years old, and it's supposed to be for 130km/h.
...well, yes, I see your point.
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