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Old July 16th, 2010, 12:16 AM   #1061
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you say concret-motorways with bump,bump,bump, yes it´s true but the new constructions which have been taking place in several european countries are concret-motorways with excellent quality.
It was an old German motorway I was referring to
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Old July 16th, 2010, 12:34 AM   #1062
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It was an old German motorway I was referring to
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Old January 16th, 2011, 06:06 PM   #1063
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Again on Belgium, there used to be an intensive cooperation between the US and B. An example of this is the remnants of the "Belgian American Chamber of Commerce, Industry and Culture."
Up to the late 70's engineers used to cross the Atlanctic frequently to study the infrastructure in both nations. Americans came to Belgium for the lighting, Belgians went to America for the roadinfrastructure itself (interchanges, pavement,...)
Somewhere in recent years, that cooperation somehow faded away (I think when America decided to go on a more conservative track)
Still, many ellements remain to be found in the Belgian infrastructural landscape (especially when it comes to the quality of the pavement).
Freeways with more than 2 lanes on every side, are still being paved with concrete up to today or atleast have a concrete foundation.

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Old January 16th, 2011, 06:32 PM   #1064
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Add the U.K. (Where I just learned that metric is actually illegal on highway signs. Imperial-only. You'll occasionally see some miles-and-metric signs here.) Why don't you start working on them: they're closer to you, and do lots of things that annoy continentals.

"Problems understanding" not "...to understand." And I am discussing.
They are illegal on distance signs, but height and with are weight signs have to be in metric (although some older ones aren't), i.e



And, also, I have seen other signs in metric, e,g 100m underneath a give way sign. Just because they are illegal doesn't mean they don't exist. Anyway, other than road signs, pretty much everything is in metric.

But anyway I don't think that either side has better roads in particular.
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Old January 17th, 2011, 10:33 AM   #1065
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I just wish we'd get the transition over with. We basically use metric anyway.
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Old January 17th, 2011, 10:43 AM   #1066
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Old January 17th, 2011, 11:04 AM   #1067
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Old January 17th, 2011, 11:08 AM   #1068
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The USA has so many different highways

We have the Interstate Highway, the US Route, and the State Highways (Every state has their own highways)

Here's the Interstate Highway sign (every Interstate highway has a different number)



U.S. Route Sign (every US Route has a different number)



This is an Example of a State Highway sign (every state highway sign has a different number, sign, and name.)

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Old January 17th, 2011, 11:10 AM   #1069
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(every Interstate highway has a different number)
That is not entirely true. 3-digit Interstate numbers can occur multiple times, but not in the same state. There are numerous I-295's for instance.
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Old January 17th, 2011, 11:12 AM   #1070
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That is not entirely true. 3-digit Interstate numbers can occur multiple times, but not in the same state. There are numerous I-295's for instance.
Yeah, I know what you mean.
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Old January 17th, 2011, 11:23 AM   #1071
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The USA has some amazing freeways.

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Old January 17th, 2011, 03:59 PM   #1072
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That is not entirely true. 3-digit Interstate numbers can occur multiple times, but not in the same state. There are numerous I-295's for instance.
Huh? Had no idea. Why on earth is that allowed?
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The Interstate numbering doesn't allow just any number for a spur. For example, an auxiliary route of I-95 should be numbered I-195, I-295, I-395, I-495, I-995 etc. Even numbers are generally beltways while odd numbers are generally spurs.

Considering the length of some Interstate Highways, and the large number of metropolitan areas with auxiliary routes they serve en route, this would mean all available auxiliary route numbers of I-95 would be used up before you're even into the Mid-Atlantic states. Thus, multiple I-295's exist. However, they cannot exist within the same state, though auxiliary routes are allowed to cross state lines (for example I-275 around Cincinnati runs through Ohio, Kentucky and Indiana).
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Old January 17th, 2011, 04:14 PM   #1074
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Huh? Had no idea. Why on earth is that allowed?
Why not, it's a pretty big place. What are the chances of you confusing the I295 in Michigan with the I295 in Texas. You'd have to be fairly retarded to pull that off. Much in the same way that nobody driving on the A2 in Belgium thinks to himself "A2? Oh I must be driving on the A2 in Italy." Frankly, if a person is that dumb, they shouldn't have a license in the first place.
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Old January 17th, 2011, 04:25 PM   #1075
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You forgot to say that Belgium and Italy are two different countries with different languages. Michigan and Texas are not.
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Old January 17th, 2011, 04:30 PM   #1076
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Why not, it's a pretty big place. What are the chances of you confusing the I295 in Michigan with the I295 in Texas. You'd have to be fairly retarded to pull that off. Much in the same way that nobody driving on the A2 in Belgium thinks to himself "A2? Oh I must be driving on the A2 in Italy." Frankly, if a person is that dumb, they shouldn't have a license in the first place.
No offence, but your comment is pretty off. The US is a country, the EU isn't.

I don't know why these short Interstates even exist. They run through just one state, hence they aren't Interstates.
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Old January 17th, 2011, 04:30 PM   #1077
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There's an A2 in Austria, Germany, and Switzerland. Each year there are hundreds of confused tourists who end up in Klagenfurt instead of Berlin.
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Old January 17th, 2011, 04:37 PM   #1078
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I don't know why these short Interstates even exist. They run through just one state, hence they aren't Interstates.
They are funded by federal money. For example Phoenix didn't get any federal money for their secondary loop freeways, hence they have State Route numbers.

There are even some mainline Interstates that are intrastate (i.e. do not cross any state lines), for example I-4 in Florida, I-12 in Louisiana, I-16 in Georgia, I-17 in Arizona, I-19 in Arizona, I-27 in Texas, I-37 in Texas, I-45 in Texas, I-66 in Virginia, I-87 in New York, I-88 in Illinois, I-96 in Michigan and I-99 in Pennsylvania.
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Old January 17th, 2011, 04:58 PM   #1079
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You forgot to say that Belgium and Italy are two different countries with different languages. Michigan and Texas are not.
What a ridiculous thing to say when we're talking about numbers. Is "A2" any different in Italian than it is in Dutch or French? No.

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No offence, but your comment is pretty off. The US is a country, the EU isn't.
So what? What does that have to do with it? The problems are the same: namely that you'd run out of numbers because the places in question (US, EU) are too big for a single scheme.
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Old January 17th, 2011, 05:09 PM   #1080
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If you're really comparing the US to the EU, then there should be an I-1 (which doesn't even exist) in every US state that has at least one Interstate. But that isn't the case, otherwise Interstates wouldn't be called "Interstates". There's just one I-4, I-5, I-8, I-10 etc. in the whole US, so it's unexpected to see several I-295s.
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