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Old May 10th, 2011, 07:29 PM   #1261
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My opinion is totally opposite - US highways are impressive, but quite ugly visually.
Indeed.

Here's an example of how European (in this case Swedish) motorways are more eye appealing, compared to often very straight, cut-through US highways.
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Old May 10th, 2011, 08:38 PM   #1262
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Okay, look at Piotr71's pictures of the road between Lille and Dunkerque, and find pictures of mountain stretches of the Pennsylvania Turnpike, and tell me which is more "visually appealing" (and "straight"). Or alternatively, someone could just lock this fricking thread. OR we could leave it open but stop making ridiculous generalizations based on selected single stretches of road.
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Old May 10th, 2011, 10:14 PM   #1263
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where is that picture
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Old May 10th, 2011, 10:36 PM   #1264
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where is that picture
E4, just east of Nyköping, Sweden, looking Northeast.
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Old May 11th, 2011, 01:56 AM   #1265
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Okay, look at Piotr71's pictures of the road between Lille and Dunkerque, and find pictures of mountain stretches of the Pennsylvania Turnpike, and tell me which is more "visually appealing" (and "straight"). Or alternatively, someone could just lock this fricking thread. OR we could leave it open but stop making ridiculous generalizations based on selected single stretches of road.
+1 The Pennsylvania Turnpike is anything but straight.
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Old May 11th, 2011, 02:19 AM   #1266
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My opinion is totally opposite - US highways are impressive, but quite ugly visually.
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Old May 11th, 2011, 02:27 AM   #1267
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When I said USA's highways are more visually appealing than europes I was actually talking about the urban areas. The US invests a lot in making the land surrounding the highways aesthetically pleasing, including planted trees, cultured lawns, and sound barriers with interesting murals on them. Plus they use cement barriers for the majority of their highways which IMO are much better looking than Europe's steel railings.

But if you want appealing highways out in the country, check out Virginia's "corridor H". Its incredible. Note the way they made the overpasses connect seemlessly with road surface.



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Old May 11th, 2011, 03:08 AM   #1268
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(Psst. That's West Virginia, actually. The two states don't like being confused for each other. Particularly since the northwestern part of Virginia reacted to Virginia's seceding from the Union - 150 years ago last month - by saying "screw that" and seceding from Virginia to stay in the Union. So they were actually on opposite sides in the Civil War, and had more than their share of the fighting on their territory. Just a little history lesson. If you don't believe me, ask Nerdly. )

Interesting you should say that: just this afternoon, we learned that North American cities don't have trees: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1375871
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haha there are a lot of trees

I-405 in Bothell, WA







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Old May 11th, 2011, 03:40 AM   #1270
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(Psst. That's West Virginia, actually. The two states don't like being confused for each other. Particularly since the northwestern part of Virginia reacted to Virginia's seceding from the Union - 150 years ago last month - by saying "screw that" and seceding from Virginia to stay in the Union. So they were actually on opposite sides in the Civil War, and had more than their share of the fighting on their territory. Just a little history lesson. If you don't believe me, ask Nerdly. )

Interesting you should say that: just this afternoon, we learned that North American cities don't have trees: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1375871
Where in Houston is that interchange? I'm willing to bet there actually ARE trees that can be spotted in the area once construction is finished
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Old May 11th, 2011, 06:28 AM   #1271
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There is really no point in fighting about who can find a more eye appealing highway, c'mon now. Both - the US and the EU have their very ugly highways and really nice highways..
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Old May 11th, 2011, 08:40 AM   #1272
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New York also has some scenic highways. Check out my 4-year-old post (the first one in the since-renamed "Roadtrips" thread):
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=884918

(You'll have to scroll down a bit)
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Old May 11th, 2011, 07:45 PM   #1273
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My opinion is totally opposite - US highways are impressive, but quite ugly visually.
That has always been my impression as well. Americans do what they need to do to make their roads work. They always start from a practical point of view while the esthetic part has always been an important factor in Europe.
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Old May 11th, 2011, 08:03 PM   #1274
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Belgian highways are some of worst in Western Europe.
Let me correct that into Wallonian highways. I agree we have bad maintenance overall. But Wallonian higways are far worse the highways in Flanders. The border can be seen very clear.

In this vid got to 2.10 and press play.

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Old May 11th, 2011, 08:11 PM   #1275
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I don't agree on the U.S. highways being ugly. For a large part, that's what shown on television, like the aged Los Angeles and New York highway systems where no new freeways were built in the past 30 years. Some DOT's do indeed spend a lot of effort on making a new project aesthetically pleasing.
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Old May 11th, 2011, 09:37 PM   #1276
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But US highways aren't older than European ones...
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Old May 11th, 2011, 09:41 PM   #1277
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But US highways aren't older than European ones...
About 90 percent of the Interstate system, as it now stands, was open by 1980. Many if not most of their French and Spanish counterparts are newer.
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Yes but most of the Benelux and Germany was already like it is now in the 70ties no?
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On the other hand, the Italian, German, British, Belgian and Dutch networks were nearly completed by that time. Age should not be of influence. We don't build motorways which are subsequently left to deteriorate without proper maintenance.

European motorist taxes frequently bring in 2 - 6 times more than they spend on the highway system. On the other hand, American motorist taxes do not get further than 75%. Hence, nearly all improvement nowadays seem to be toll roads.

I'd rather pay a somewhat higher gas tax than tolls. Do you know how much it costs to cross through France? Over € 70 or almost $ 100. One way!
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Yes but most of the Benelux and Germany was already like it is now in the 70ties no?
That, I don't know enough to talk about with confidence. Which is why I limited my statement to France and Spain.
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