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Old August 14th, 2006, 10:45 PM   #101
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"This is where you can find the Days Inn expansion, clearly different structures"

since SSP is the only source of the Days INN expansion - it means nothing
(and I've also been following new developments on the city website long before the entry at SSP was made)

could be an older plan for the Hilton expansion or, more likely, a project completed unrelated to Niagara Falls
Actually the reason why only SSP has the Days Inn expansion is because nobody else knows about it.

The drawing was created from hardcopies of the building plans. The plans are over a year old now and I'm unsure if they've even applied for it at the City yet. The project may very well be dead now though.

I can personally guarantee it's authenticity and accuracy.

It was previously discussed here: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showth...2&page=2&pp=20

The architects, Stanford Downey also did 1KW in TO, the Oakes & Hilton in NF
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Old August 15th, 2006, 12:37 AM   #102
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Hey Buckster. I think the Mariott pictures are from two different Mariotts. The first one I believe is the Mariott Fallsview while the second and third picture I know for sure is the Mariott Courtyard.

Also, Buckster are you the owner of accessniagara? I know he posts on here but I can't remember his screen name. He hasn't updated the site in a week now which I think is the longest he's ever gone. Just wanted to make sure everything is ok.
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Old August 15th, 2006, 03:07 AM   #103
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No I'm not the owner Mucciared, his user name is Gawing and I haven't seen anything for awhile either. He doesn't post on here! so who knows?I didn't know there were two different Mariotts, but thanks for clearing it up. No xzmattzx, I didn't take the picture I found the picture along with many other gems @:http://www.nfpl.library.on.ca/nfplindex/
Tony do you know which Days Inn this was supposed to be. And have you heard of any new projects going on, small or large? Also does anyone have any pictures of the new Niagara condo residences?
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Old August 15th, 2006, 04:36 AM   #104
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so is Rainbow Tower Hotel a go???
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Old August 15th, 2006, 05:26 AM   #105
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No xzmattzx, I didn't take the picture I found the picture along with many other gems @:http://www.nfpl.library.on.ca/nfplindex/
Great find. Looks like there's a lot for me to look at.
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Old August 15th, 2006, 07:06 AM   #106
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FEATURED NIAGARA FALLS DEVELOPMENT PROJECT

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Hotel & Condominium Residences, Niagara Falls, Canada
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News out of Niagara Falls NY:

Initial Niagara Falls plans include another hotel and a new retail complex, which could result in an additional 1,000 new jobs in the city, as well as a decision to keep upper-level management gaming headquarters in the Falls instead of moving them to Buffalo as had been planned, Pantano said.

http://www.buffalonews.com/editorial...13/1033837.asp
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Old August 15th, 2006, 08:08 AM   #107
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Hmm that Condo/Hotel has really been kept secret (until now). How did you come across it?

The website doesn't offer much information really, and most of it seems kind of legal mumbo jumbo. At least they provided floor plans. Well an August 2006 approval was mentioned. The next time Niagara Falls council meets is August 21 so maybe we'll keep an eye open.
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Old August 15th, 2006, 03:39 PM   #108
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Tony do you know which Days Inn this was supposed to be. And have you heard of any new projects going on, small or large? Also does anyone have any pictures of the new Niagara condo residences?
I'm afraid not. I'm not sure what the exact address is for that monster Days Inn but it is on Fallsview Blvd. I really wish I had at the very least taken a photo of the plans (they of course were to big to scan on a regular desktop flatbed scanner).

I get the feeling the project is dead though, it's been over a year and the City has not reported it as being submitted. Strange though that the developer would go through all the trouble of creating a decent set of draft drawings and to not apply. If it hasn't been officially submitted, it would be nearly impossible to get informaiton about it from the City.

Renderings of the new 29 storey condo can be found on the official website:
http://www.niagaracondos.ca/intro_flash.html
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From the Buffalo News

Looks like another high rise hotel (and headquarters building for Seneca Gaming Corp) may be in the future for the US side of the Falls...


State compact allows Senecas more leeway with Falls
By GAIL FRANKLIN
NEWS NIAGARA BUREAU
8/13/2006

http://www.buffalonews.com/editorial...13/1033837.asp

NIAGARA FALLS - The Seneca Nation won't have a problem gaining control of streets in the Cataract City that fall within its gaming territory like it has encountered in recent weeks with its planned Buffalo casino.

The Senecas recently offered to pay $631,000 for two blocks of a Buffalo street, where a casino is planned, but aren't required to pay anything for the five downtown Niagara Falls streets that will, or already have, become part of its Falls gaming territory.

That's because New York's compact with the Seneca Nation of Indians, signed by Gov. George E. Pataki in 2002, is written in a way that gives Buffalo latitude when it comes to its city streets, but includes public thoroughfares in the 50-acre section of Niagara Falls land promised to the Senecas.

"Niagara is the only one where a specific site is designated in the compact, and includes all roads," said Seneca Gaming Corp. spokesman Philip J. Pantano.

However, when the street-sale negotiations between the Seneca Erie Gaming Corp. and Buffalo Mayor Byron W. Brown fell apart earlier this month, Seneca President Barry E. Snyder Sr. made a surprise announcement that the result will be additional development and new jobs for Niagara Falls to come sooner than expected.

Initial Niagara Falls plans include another hotel and a new retail complex, which could result in an additional 1,000 new jobs in the city, as well as a decision to keep upper-level management gaming headquarters in the Falls instead of moving them to Buffalo as had been planned, Pantano said.

Snyder, also chief executive officer of the Seneca Gaming Corp., said that without the sale of the Buffalo street, the planned $125 million, 100,000-square-foot casino has been drastically scaled back. He said that leaves time and energy to expand operations in Salamanca and the Falls.

Pantano said the site of the Falls expansion will be the former Fallsville Splash Park and its associated lots and parking lots. The gaming corporation took title to that land last month through an eminent domain proceeding. The 18 acres at John B. Daly and Rainbow boulevards is planned as a focal point for the Senecas' holdings in the Falls, where a 26-story spa hotel was completed in March.

"Our vision is to create a grand entranceway, so that as visitors come off the Robert Moses Parkway, they are greeted by a world-class facility," Pantano said. "We're finalizing plans internally on an additional hotel space."


Pantano said the retail complex would attract name-brand companies, which would be required to collect state sales tax. That would be a first for the Senecas' Falls operations, which are exempt from sales, hotel occupancy and property taxes because the land is considered sovereign. For instance, the gift shop in the Seneca Niagara Casino & Hotel on Third Street does not collect sales tax because it is Seneca-owned.

The spokesman also said the land where the former Ramada Inn on Rainbow Boulevard once stood will be used for surface parking for now. The gaming corporation bought the property last year and demolished the former hotel last month.

The Falls gambling complex currently has more than 3,000 workers, and that number is expected to rise to about 4,000 or more in the coming years, Pantano said.

That is encouraging to some lawmakers.

"I've talked to them, and they're going to go from 3,000 to 5,000 workers," said Councilman Louis Rotella. "So that would help the city. Now we have to do our due diligence by getting these people good housing."

When Brown turned down the proposed street-sale deal with the Senecas, it brought out some bad feelings among lawmakers in the Falls.

The Buffalo deal was turned down because Snyder refused to give certain written assurances, such as a certain percentage of workers being Buffalo residents and minorities. It was an agreement that would have meant millions in marketing dollars, infrastructure improvements and a strong advocacy for making Buffalo the sole recipient of local slots revenues for a Buffalo casino.

Those offers will likely never be made in Niagara Falls, because the Cataract City has no bargaining chip to put on the table and nothing to offer in return for any written assurances. Everything the Senecas need in Niagara Falls is already included in the state compact, say some Niagara Falls councilmen.

"They just out and out screwed us," Rotella said of state lawmakers who drafted the tribal compact. "[Irene J.] Elia was the mayor, and she wasn't even involved. The governor said to stand back and let him do this. Nobody challenged him, and he said he had the right to do that."

Rotella was not an elected official at the time the casino plans were being drafted but attended those meetings as a resident, he said.

Councilman Robert Anderson Jr., who also was not an elected official during that time, said he likes the way Brown handled the negotiations with the Senecas.

"[Brown] watched how the state made fluff out of the City of Niagara Falls," Anderson said, "and now he's standing up and using the things he learned to protect the people of Buffalo."

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Old August 15th, 2006, 10:01 PM   #110
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^ it's good to hear development news and expansion, but I'm not too sure if this will in fact involve another highrise.
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I guess we will have to wait and see what the Senecas announce. Hopefully it will be another highrise, and judging by the scale that they've been doing things, I wouldn't be surprised if it is another tall one. For example, they built a highrise all the way out in Salamanca, NY which is basically in the middle of nowhere. They're having no trouble at all booking the one high rise they built, so I don't see why they would suddenly change gears and think small this time around. Also, they had been planning a high rise for Buffalo, but now that those plans have been scaled back, they're more likely to do it in the Falls...just my opinion. Can't wait till they make an announcement.
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Old August 15th, 2006, 11:10 PM   #112
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Does anyone have a clue what this project is about?

http://www.wiredcitynetwork.com/gpage7.html

News out of Niagara Falls NY:

Initial Niagara Falls plans include another hotel and a new retail complex, which could result in an additional 1,000 new jobs in the city, as well as a decision to keep upper-level management gaming headquarters in the Falls instead of moving them to Buffalo as had been planned, Pantano said.

http://www.buffalonews.com/editorial...13/1033837.asp
it looks a lot like the tridel condos called "Ovation" in Mississauga.
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Old August 16th, 2006, 03:59 AM   #113
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This is the pedestrian bridge that has been closed due to construction, for about a year now.


There is a future independant hotel under renovation, which is located next to the Greg Frewin Theatre. My understanding is that this building is also owned by the theatre owners?

http://www.gregfrewintheatre.com/index.htm
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No surprise here, but the Topple Tower @ Marineland will not be finished this season. LOL


2006/2007 - Topple Tower - (7/31/06) As you can see by the photos a reader sent in, very little progress has been made on the new Topple Tower which pretty much secures that it wont open until 2007 in my mind:
http://www.screamscape.com/html/marineland.htm
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No surprise here, but the Topple Tower @ Marineland will not be finished this season. LOL


2006/2007 - Topple Tower - (7/31/06) As you can see by the photos a reader sent in, very little progress has been made on the new Topple Tower which pretty much secures that it wont open until 2007 in my mind:
http://www.screamscape.com/html/marineland.htm
WOW...they got far on that.lol.
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I'd like to see them incorporate that above-ground pool into the tower.
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This is the pedestrian bridge that has been closed due to construction, for about a year now.


Here is a future independant hotel under renovation, which is located next to the Greg Frewin Theatre. My understanding is that this building is also owned by the theatre owners?

http://www.gregfrewintheatre.com/index.htm
I drove past late tonight and I barely noticed anything. I guess we'll have to keep an eye on this one, something seems to be going on. This building is such an eyesore and can really improve this already "shady" area. Greg Frewin Theatre and the Days Inn have really helped out this neighbourhood aesthetically.

Buckster, have you noticed a huge hole has been dug up on Stanley?? Any ideas on what this project is?? Maybe a small hotel? It really is a small area.
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Niagara Falls is probably feeling some of this. I know the St. Catharines and Lincoln area is booming as well.

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Niagara's housing prices fastest rising in Ontario


It's not Alberta, but Niagara's housing prices are rising faster than anywhere else in the province.

Statistics Canada released the June housing price figures this week, showing the average cost of a home in Niagara (excluding Grimsby and West Lincoln) is $328,000, up 4.9 per cent from last year.

Other than Hamilton, where the cost of a new home also went up 4.9 per cent, the Niagara housing market is heating up faster than any other region in Ontario.


Still, it isn't even within shouting distance of Alberta, where in the last year, the cost of a single detached home has jumped 49.2 per cent in Calgary and 28.1 per cent in Edmonton.

David Lan, who monitors the Niagara market for the Canada Mortgage and Housing Corporation, said the main driver continues to be Torontonians moving to the southside of Lake Ontario.

This is largely because of the cheaper houses. The average new home in Hogtown is $122,000 more than the same house here. And while many of the migrants are retirees, Lan said some are just looking for a lifestyle switch.

Inflating the local price tag is a higher cost for land, caused mostly by a shortage of developable property, particularly in St. Catharines.

Looking ahead into 2007 and 2008, Lan predicted prices will cool off a tad, but continue to climb.

"We're forecasting slower growth in prices for the next year, partially because mortgage rates are edging up," he said.
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I drove past late tonight and I barely noticed anything. I guess we'll have to keep an eye on this one, something seems to be going on. This building is such an eyesore and can really improve this already "shady" area. Greg Frewin Theatre and the Days Inn have really helped out this neighbourhood aesthetically.

Buckster, have you noticed a huge hole has been dug up on Stanley?? Any ideas on what this project is?? Maybe a small hotel? It really is a small area.
They were working on that building yesterday and it "will" be a hotel, so kudos to them for cleaning up a crappy area. And If I recall, the city engineering department mentioned something about a hotel going up in that location on Stanley that you mentioned. I also want to find out for sure, but apparently the Marriot Courtyard is two years away from an expansion.
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Priceline.com's Top 50 Destinations - Summer 2006

Rank 2006 Neighborhood Rank 2005 Yr/Yr Change

38. St. Catharines, Niagara Falls 48 +10

Niagara Falls is a + 10 after jumping from #48 last year to #38 this year.
http://www.hotelresource.com/article22907.html

On another note: The MacBain Community Centre has put there sign up on the outside, it only had the YMCA sign before.
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