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Old May 8th, 2012, 07:57 AM   #1981
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Buildings can be built above the world trade center's height but, no building can be above 2,000ft in the USA due to the federal aviation administration's rules (would need special permission).
2000ft to tip? Or 2000ft only roof height? If just to roof height, 1900 would do, and add a few more hundred ft for a spire or some frame and windows past the roof. If entirely to tip, then heck, we could go 1,999.99'... he he he

"Special permission?" I am pretty sure there are many ways around this.. and heck, if any city in the usa could get "special permission," I am sure it would be nyc
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Old May 8th, 2012, 08:08 AM   #1982
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Although it looks fabulous, but are there any plans to rezone the western side of Manhattan? because I'm noticing the tall skyscrapers would be on the western riverfront.... if so, we would have three major skyline areas, Downtown, Midtown ,and Western riverfront (whatever the name of the area is).
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Old May 8th, 2012, 09:53 AM   #1983
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Old May 8th, 2012, 10:59 AM   #1984
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Here's a key for the picture I posted earlier:

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Not a fan of this, it makes ESB look tiny. Some of the buildings are great, but 432 park sticks out like a sore thumb, and really overshadows ESB. I wish that Tower Verre was taller, it has a strikingly beautiful design.
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Old May 8th, 2012, 11:25 AM   #1985
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Great post!


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Old May 8th, 2012, 11:27 AM   #1986
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Kanto finally losing it?
But if your happy what else matters?

and........ I don't like this thread straying off thread but reading previous posts I only wish the view of the ESB from Top of the Rock is classified as a national monument. Yeah it's one thing to save a building but you also have to save it in context of what it means and has meant to this city. I have been looking at a mounted giant classic view picture of this in a local store and think I'll have to buy it !
Now back to WTC 1............it looks great in the background as well : )
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Old May 8th, 2012, 12:16 PM   #1987
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Here's a key for the picture I posted earlier:

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7038/7...7f299865_b.jpg

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Hmph, I find it rather curious that there are so many new towers in midtown, but except for the WTC there are none in downtown. Is there no space left in downtown or what?
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Old May 8th, 2012, 12:58 PM   #1988
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Hmph, I find it rather curious that there are so many new towers in midtown, but except for the WTC there are none in downtown. Is there no space left in downtown or what?
welcome back Kanto...................i would say that they would have to raze something downtown ( my favorite part of the city) to put something else up, just as they do in almost every area of the city as how many open spaces are there in Manhattan? perhaps a few along the Hudson?? I'm excited there is even more to go on 1WTC........... thanks to those who posted those pics above showing whats left vs current height
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Old May 8th, 2012, 01:24 PM   #1989
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Hmph, I find it rather curious that there are so many new towers in midtown, but except for the WTC there are none in downtown. Is there no space left in downtown or what?
Ever heard of 99 Church, 56 Leonard, 50 West and the towers on Washington Str.? All in Downtown. Not to mention all the small hotels (300 - 600ft) going up which don't even have a thread here. Also many towers shown in that render will be completed in a couple of years (<2020), not in 2030.
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Old May 8th, 2012, 10:17 PM   #1990
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Lehman could facilitate second new Park Avenue office tower
May 8 2012



Just two weeks after L&L Holdings requested proposals for Park Avenue’s first new office tower in three decades, speculation is growing that a second new tower could rise on the avenue. According to the New York Post, now that Lehman Brothers Holdings has full control over 237 Park Avenue it is considering building a new tower on the property, near 45th Street.

Monday Properties both manages 237 Park Avenue and owns the neighboring building at 230 Park Avenue. The addresses were going to be merged for zoning lot purposes in order to construct a new tower around 237 Park Avenue. But to build that new tower, developers need about 1.5 million square feet of air rights, which is owned by Lehman Brothers and Argent Ventures.

Now that Lehman has a stake in the properties, and considering it already has a stake in the air rights, perhaps the landlords can strike a deal for additional air rights and expand atop the existing structure or build a new one entirely, the Post said.

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Old May 9th, 2012, 01:04 AM   #1991
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High Line area residentials begin their big dig:

Avalon West Chelsea:

http://afinecompany.blogspot.com/201...p-of-high.html


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Related site at 30th and 10th St.:

http://afinecompany.blogspot.com/201...p-of-high.html

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Old May 9th, 2012, 01:07 AM   #1992
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NYU Seeks Approval To Build $1.2 Billion Pavillion

The 22-story, 830,200-square-foot building for inpatient and outpatient service will be located on the medical center's existing campus, at East 34th Street.



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NYU Hospitals Center is expected to announce Monday that it has filed for state regulatory approval of its long-awaited $1.2 billion project to build a new clinical facility, the Helen L. and Martin S. Kimmel Pavilion.

The certificate of need, filed last month, calls for a 22-story, 830,200-square-foot building for inpatient and outpatient services. It will be located on the medical center's existing East 34th Street campus, between First Avenue and the East River, where the Rusk Institute of Rehabilitation and the Ronald O. Perelman Research buildings now stand. NYU said the project could generate 10,400 construction and related jobs in New York, $1.44 billion in economic output and 9,100 nonconstruction jobs.

If approved, the new pavilion will have 374 inpatient rooms with one bed each. That design could help the hospital's bottom line by helping it control costly infections and making patients feel better about their hospitalization—at a time when reimbursement will be based in part on patient satisfaction scores.

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Old May 9th, 2012, 02:14 AM   #1993
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Old May 9th, 2012, 02:28 AM   #1994
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Although it looks fabulous, but are there any plans to rezone the western side of Manhattan? because I'm noticing the tall skyscrapers would be on the western riverfront.... if so, we would have three major skyline areas, Downtown, Midtown ,and Western riverfront (whatever the name of the area is).
They already did rezone the Far West Side of Manhattan. That's what is allowing the development of that area, like Related's mammoth Hudson Yards, and the many other towers that will rise there.

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But if your happy what else matters?

and........ I don't like this thread straying off thread but reading previous posts I only wish the view of the ESB from Top of the Rock is classified as a national monument. Yeah it's one thing to save a building but you also have to save it in context of what it means and has meant to this city. I have been looking at a mounted giant classic view picture of this in a local store and think I'll have to buy it !
Now back to WTC 1............it looks great in the background as well : )
Yeah, and hinder Manhattan's economic growth? Awful idea.
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Old May 9th, 2012, 03:29 AM   #1995
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Has anybody seen The Avengers? Anyone noticed where and how the Stark Tower is made? it's a really funny idea .
It's the Metlife tower, but partly dismantled, you can see the tower cranes at the base of the tower, dismantling the lower floors. The Stark Tower "comes out" of the Metlife, and keeps part of the original facade:

Pic from: http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansit.../news/?a=47954
Lol, I saw this. I felt the tower should've been taller. Really interesting how the Metlife Building got deconstructed.
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Old May 9th, 2012, 03:33 AM   #1996
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Bidders Compete to Run Trade Center Observatory, 1,200 Feet Up

By CHARLES V. BAGLI
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Seven companies submitted bids Monday afternoon to operate what will be New York City’s highest and largest observatory, at 1 World Trade Center, according to real estate executives.

Observation decks like the two at the Empire State Building have become so lucrative that the bidding for the three-level attraction on floors 100 through 102 drew bidders from as far as Canada and France, as well as a local restaurant owner.

Under the plans, five high-speed express elevators will transport visitors more than 1,200 feet above the street to a perch near the top of the tower, for $20 and $25 per person. The observatory will offer unobstructed views of the city, Long Island, New Jersey, and Westchester and Rockland Counties.

Annual revenues could exceed $100 million.

But the trade center observatory will have to compete not only with the Empire State Building, which draws four million visitors annually, and Top of the Rock, the observatory at 30 Rockefeller Plaza, but also with the Statue of Liberty and the National September 11 Memorial and Museum.

The seven companies, which were ordered not to discuss their offers, submitted bids to the Durst Organization, which owns 1 World Trade Center with the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey. The owners did not return calls seeking comment, but real estate executives briefed on the submissions identified the following bidders:

¶ Montparnasse 56 USA, an affiliate of the French firm that runs an observatory and roof terrace at the Montparnasse Tower in Paris.

¶ Legends Hospitality Management, which runs food services and merchandising at Yankee Stadium and the Dallas Cowboys Stadium.

¶ Danny Meyer, who owns a string of local restaurants, including Union Square Cafe, Blue Smoke and Shake Shack, and concessions at Citi Field and the Saratoga Race Course. He teamed up with GSM Projects, a Canadian firm.

¶ Aramark, a large food services company.

¶ Anthony E. Malkin, who operates the Empire State Building. Its 86th- and 102nd-floor observatories generate over $60 million a year in profit, more than any other deck. In the last decade, annual attendance has climbed to four million, from three million.

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SOM's new hospital & pavillion takes its form from the Vescia Pisces

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Long-Stalled Moynihan Shocker!

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First phase of Moynihan Station construction to begin later this year



The first phase of the delayed Moynihan Station project is slated to begin later this year, Reuters reported. The upcoming project will expand Pennsylvania Station’s access to underground passenger platforms and is projected to cost $270 million.

The plans include creating street-level entrances on two corners of Eighth Avenue, one at 31st Street and the other at 33rd Street, to train platforms underground. There will also be reconstruction of an underground passageway to Penn Station to make it both wider and extend further for better access to Amtrak, New Jersey Transit and the Long Island Railroad. Additional plans include the installation of an underground ventilation system.

The first phase is expected to be completed in 2016. The second phase of the project will convert the James Farley Post Office, which is located across Eighth Avenue from Penn Station, into a six-story passenger hub.

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Morphosis Goes First on Roosevelt Island Tech Campus



From the six final candidates, Cornell chose Morphosis Architects to design the first building on its Roosevelt Island applied sciences campus. University officials made the announcement last night at a Manhattan Community Board 8 meeting on Roosevelt Island to discuss a master plan for the campus. It's a safe bet that Morphosis will not choose to create a carbon copy of the Cooper Union building pictured above in the SOM flyover rendering, but it is an example of the firm's work on an academic building and architect Thom Mayne's other structures that veil glass buildings behind perforated metal. The Morphosis building will be the first of three academic buildings located on the campus, which will be aligned on a north-south axis, with the first being closest to the 59th Street Bridge. The plan calls for the structure to be 150,000 square feet and, probably no more than eight stories; "Academics don't like to work in high-rises," explained Kathy Dove, VP of CornellNYC Tech. First drafts of Mayne's plans for the building are expected by November 2012, with a schematic design in March 2013.
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One World Trade Center: After Redesign, Official Height Only 1,368 Feet



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These renderings, via the New York Times from the Durst Organization, show the re-imagined spire (or antenna) of One World Trade Center. The former design was much more bulky and was an actual spire--the new design is simply an antenna mast, which would be used for communications.

The contrast is clear, as the old spire was much bulkier and larger, with the new antenna plainly mechanical. Besides the change in function, the official height of the building will also be different. The Council on Tall Buildings defines spires as architectural elements, a category antenna do not fall under. Thus, the design change also alters the building's official height from 1,776 feet tall to only 1,368. The difference is trivial, but would make One World Trade's reign as New York's 'official' tallest very short, as 432 Park's official height will be almost 1,400 feet.

Durst representative Jordan Barowitz said “We never have, never will, refer to it as an antenna,” but that doesn't change the fact that the rendering on the right most definitely depicts an antenna rather than a spire. Semantics are everything when it comes to deciding the official heights of buildings. Durst is free to consider the antenna a spire, but anyone with eyes can see that it is plainly an antenna, and not an architectural addition to One World Trade.

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