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Old June 11th, 2012, 08:44 AM   #2121
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I agree. I'm surprised a lot of these buildings aren't protected. Here in Tulsa, Oklahoma we have a bunch of scrawny, ugly buildings from the 50s that have National Register of Historic Places status. I'm shocked that some of these bigger New York highrises can be demolished so easily.
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Old June 11th, 2012, 02:06 PM   #2122
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So is this just a generic picture or is the "mystery supertall" actually gonna get built in this space. That would be a grave injustice to architecture, to history and to New York's cultural heritage. Call me old-fashioned, but I'd rather keep these gems than build another supertall. There are plenty of spaces in New York for supertalls. These two need to be saved and protected. A lot of people here on SSC thinks being a fan of skyscrapers means rooting for taller and taller structures and that's not right
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Old June 11th, 2012, 04:05 PM   #2123
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I did click like on the page. Strange that people would be against that... Supertalls are nice and all but if New York becomes just another city of steel and glass exclusively it will lose most of it's charm.

I'm fine with facade-ectomy's btw as the public doesn't get to see the interiors of these buildings anyway.
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Old June 13th, 2012, 07:25 AM   #2124
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Two Trees In Contract For Domino Sugar Factory


Ted Walentas orf two Trees ande the Domino Sugar Refinery

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Two Trees Management is in talks to purchase the Domino Sugar Factory site on the Williamsburg waterfront for $160 million, the New York Daily News reported. The property’s owners, Community Preservation Corp. and the Katan Group, have engaged in a legal battle over development plans in recent months, and Katan is planning to block a sale to Two Trees.

The site was first reported to be hitting the sales block in March as CPC faced financial difficulties on the site, in part because of rampant real estate speculation during the boom. Consequently, Katan Group filed suit against CPC alleging mismanagement of the property.

The plan for the sugar factory calls for the $2 billion development of 2,200 housing units, including 600 affordable ones, on the waterfront. Katan and CPC acquired the development site for $55 million in 2005 and spent years clearing development hurdles at the property. Katan believes CPC is undervaluing the asset and that it should get $200 million in a sale.

Crain’s reported that Two Trees has already signed a preliminary term sheet for the purchase. “Two Trees understands waterfront development, is well-capitalized and is the best chance for this site to get developed into the mixed-income, mixed-use community it was intended to be,” said CPC CEO Rafael Cestero, who added that proceeds from the sale will enable CPC to fund affordable projects elsewhere.
Will Walentas stay true to all this?
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Old June 13th, 2012, 03:13 PM   #2125
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I don't really like those proposed towers. They're repeating failures of the past (huge monolithic and look-a-like building blocks) and make the impression of social housing.

It should be completely redesigned if they want 13 towers there, they should engage more than one architect to create more diversity and vitality.
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Old June 20th, 2012, 03:48 AM   #2126
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Below is the massing diagram for 107 W 57th Street, another tower proposed for 57th Street just east of One 57 (on the same block).

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Here is the site currently (photos by me):

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If/when it gets built, it will be quite a sliver.
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Old June 20th, 2012, 04:51 AM   #2127
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Old June 20th, 2012, 04:52 AM   #2128
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Manhattan west Tie-In

Brookfield Weighs Massive Renovation Of Former Daily News headquarters At 450 W.33rd St.



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In an effort to better integrate its existing West 33rd Street tower with its forthcoming multi-billion-dollar Manhattan West project, Brookfield Office Properties is considering undertaking a massive renovation of the former home of the New York Daily News, according to the New York Observer. The 1.7 million-square-foot tower, at 450 West 33rd Street, is adjacent to the rail yards where Brookfield will begin construction in the coming months on a $300 million deck that will serve as the base of a four-tower development. Brookfield has yet to lay out specific plans for the potential renovation, although Jerry Larkin, Brookfield’s senior director of leasing, noted that it could include installing an all-glass facade, a new lobby and upgrading other building systems.

However, the developer does have the potential benefits of that renovation fully planned out. It would allow the Cushman & Wakefield team marketing Manhattan West to offer potential tenants the ability to take some pricier space in the brand new office towers and complimentary cheaper space at 450 West 33rd Street.
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Old June 20th, 2012, 05:15 AM   #2129
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Moinian's Long-Stalled 605 W.42nd St Tower Being Rewvived by Starwood, Rose

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Old June 21st, 2012, 03:39 AM   #2130
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Once-stalled boutique hotel back on track

English private equity firms buys 31st Street site for $13.5M
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"... Commune, a joint partnership between Thompson Hotels and Joie De Vivre Hotels, will manage the 33-story, 260-room boutique hotel, which is slated to have a 125-seat restaurant and a rooftop bar.

Construction is slated to begin in early 2013, with the hotel opening in 2014 or early 2015, according to Simon..."
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Old June 21st, 2012, 04:02 AM   #2131
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Gross, I'm seriously over these hotels that are setback from the streetwall. I don't understand why they don't change the zoning to forbid this type of development.
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Old June 21st, 2012, 06:06 AM   #2132
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There not going anywhere! Setbacks let more light in, and make the streets feel alot more 'open'. Most places have rules that buildings have to be setback from the street! Nothing wrong with it either?
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Old June 21st, 2012, 06:25 AM   #2133
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That's one hideous building. Time for a glass facelift.
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Old June 21st, 2012, 08:16 PM   #2134
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New 432 Park Ave Renderings: It's Really THAT Tall


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Old June 21st, 2012, 08:20 PM   #2135
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One57 Tops Out


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Old June 21st, 2012, 08:52 PM   #2136
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Old June 22nd, 2012, 11:47 PM   #2137
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yeh, still a few meters to go
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Old June 22nd, 2012, 11:48 PM   #2138
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That's one hideous building. Time for a glass facelift.
Or, massive as it is, just build a 120-story tower on top.
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Old June 24th, 2012, 01:21 PM   #2139
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That's one hideous building. Time for a glass facelift.
Has a pretty unique 70s space-age look to it. Like BART, MARTA, the DC metro and others.
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Old June 26th, 2012, 06:45 PM   #2140
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A Bright Future for Willets Point – Redevelopment on an Environmentally Marred Peninsula

The New York Economic Development Corporation and Mayor Bloomberg of NYC announced the completion of the final plan for Willets Point - a peninsula on the Flushing River in Northern Queens, New York. The development of Willets Point is part of the urban renewal project associated with Citi Field – the Mets’ new stadium. Nicknamed the Iron Triangle, the project will include housing for mixed incomes, retail and entertainment amenities, a hotel, a convention center, office space, parks and open space, and a new public school, all of which falls under the umbrella of LEED-certified buildings and infrastructure. As with every redevelopment plan, there are positives and negatives to restructuring the community.

The Willets Point Redevelopment Plan is a ten- to fifteen- year commitment to the regeneration of this district. There are many environmental concerns associated with this land. Historically, the 60-acre peninsula was used as an ash dump. It accumulated approximately 100 railroad car loads of ash per day. Since, it has also been contaminated by petroleum, paint, cleaning solvents and automotive fluids. A high water table exacerbates the environmental hazards, threatening to spread into other bodies of water. It also lies within the 100-year flood plain which requires that the grade be elevated significantly. In addition, storm water and sanitary infrastructure is lacking. Its neighbor, Flushing Meadows-Corona Park, was marred by the same kind of environmental damage, but was restored in the early 20th century in preparation for the 1938 World’s Fair. Now officials believe it is time for Willets Point to follow suit.

Willets Point is valuable due to its geographic location. It has the potential to become a hub for a variety of activities from entertainment, residential use, outdoor recreation, and commercial and retail use. It is regionally well connected to the subway towards Manhattan, to the LIRR towards Long Island, the highways and airports. It is already well positioned in proximity to other popular destinations such as Flushing, Corona Park, the National Tennis Center, Shea Stadium and Citi Field. The benefits are tangible – the plan promises 25,000 “person-years of construction employment”, 5,000 permanent jobs, 1,000 indirect jobs that come from the convention center, mixed-income housing, a new diverse community and hub, an estimated 30-year fiscal impact of $4.2 billion dollars, and the rebuilding of environmental infrastructure throughout the peninsula, in addition to a LEED buildings.

Despite its advantages, there are challenges to the city’s plans. According to Smriti Rao’s article in DNAinfo on New York Neighborhoods, residents and local businesses in the area are reluctant to relinquish their properties to eminent domain. It is a legitimate claim to private property but is often pushed aside for development such as these. However, Bloomberg ensures that 95 percent of the property has been or is being acquired. Is there no way that the future plans could be incorporated into the already existing architecture and infrastructure that the community there has established? It is frequent tug-of-war between the two. As the project goes out to bid, we will be able to see if and how the redevelopment unfolds and changes the district for the better.

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