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Old June 26th, 2006, 05:33 AM   #241
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Has anyone else noticed that the Freedom Tower looks like a big "up yours" from this angle? Appropriate I suppose.
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Old June 26th, 2006, 07:08 AM   #242
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I've noticed that. It even looks better from a different angle. The other towers will be higher so it will look great.
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Old June 26th, 2006, 07:14 AM   #243
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lol!!!!
Your right, shaggers_jr.
It does. Ive seen that pic a dozen times and never noticed.
So how long did it take you to notice?
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Old June 26th, 2006, 07:18 AM   #244
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LOL! I also can see the resemblance.
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Old June 26th, 2006, 08:23 AM   #245
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lol!!!!
Your right, shaggers_jr.
It does. Ive seen that pic a dozen times and never noticed.
So how long did it take you to notice?
I noticed almost immediately. I have a filthy, filthy mind.
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Old June 26th, 2006, 08:17 PM   #247
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On the Waterfront: South Street Seaport, Treasure for the City, Is Suddenly in Play


BY ROBERTA WEISBROD - Special to the Sun
June 26, 2006

South Street Seaport, the area of Manhattan shoreline just south of the Brooklyn Bridge, is in play, and what happens over the next few months will set its future for decades.

The opportunity is a result of two shifts in real estate: A year ago, General Growth Properties, a major publicly traded REIT that owns or operates 200 shopping malls nationwide, acquired the Rouse Co., including the South Street Seaport properties that it developed - Pier 17 and four other assemblages - a total of 385,000 square feet of retail space.

And a half year ago, the city relocated the 180-year-old Fulton Fish market to the Bronx, leaving behind an estimated 140,000 square feet of vacant selling space. GGP intends to exercise its option to acquire the city-owned landmarked "Tin Building" as well as a block of privately owned market stalls that were also vacated.

A spokeswoman for GGP, Cheri Fein of Rubenstein Associates, said the developer plans "to service the growing residential population as well as the people that work there."

The city's Economic Development Corporation will now have to decide how to develop its remaining parcel, the non-landmarked "New Market Building."

The city's planning commissioner, Amanda Burden, is effusive about the possibilities. "South Street Seaport is unique in New York City. It's unique among all American cities," she said. "The wonderful scale, the texture, with access to the water and a view of the Brooklyn Bridge."

It's a treasure for the city, she said - "and an important amenity for the financial district - their respite and recreation."

The seaport is where 200 years ago New York became a great global city through innovations in technology, financing, and business models, the latter best exemplified by the initiation of the world's first scheduled cargo shipping line, leaving on time, and half empty, in a January snowstorm.

The City is developing three plans for downtown, all involving South Street Seaport. All three of them have good prospects for being accomplished.

The Mayor's Harbor District links Brooklyn Bridge Park, Governor's Island, the Battery-Statue of Liberty, and the South Street Seaport by water - with the Seaport an obvious embarcadero for ferries.

In addition, the city's planning department and the Lower Manhattan Development Corporation have created the Fulton Street Revitalization Plan, an upgraded corridor from the Hudson River to the East River, encompassing the new World Trade Center and the new Calatrava Transit Hub, and culminating with a park at the old Burling Slip in the South Street Seaport.

Most ambitious of all is city planning's East River Waterfront Esplanade and Piers Project, with $150 million of LMDC funds earmarked to create a two-mile walkway-bikeway along the entire tip of Manhattan. Innovations include enlivening the dreary underside of the FDR Drive with lighting, traffic-muting cladding, and pavilions for community, culture, and commerce. At the South Street Seaport section, the dismantled Pier 15 will be rebuilt as a public open space, to be used for historic vessel tie-ups.

Peck Slip, where huge oceangoing sailing vessels once pulled in for unloading is now a cluttered parking lot. But under the city's plan it will become a great plaza. The north side of Pier 17, now neglected, but breathtaking in its sweep of the East River, will become a small boat marina.

Civic groups have been actively engaged in shaping the course of the South Street Seaport. SeaportSpeaks, an energetic group composed of residents, architects, preservationists, developers, builders, cultural leaders, residents, and government officials, convened a one-day charrette, a workshop to develop ideas. The charrette's 70 participants agreed that the Ssaport's scale, texture, sense of history and maritime connection have to be preserved and promoted to attract unique, appropriate retail.

"With the removal of the Fulton Fish Market, cultural institutions and venues become the living, working link to the Seaport's rich narrative," said the co-chair of SeaportSpeaks, Lee Gruzen. "They should be the honey to attract New Yorkers to come, stay and return again and again."

The charrette's conclusions are available on the group's Web site, seaportspeaks.org. They include ideas like "Attract the finest restaurateurs-seafood first - as better quality restaurants will be an attraction." And "Put the SEA back into the SEAport." And create a "real neighborhood" with groceries, food, and shopping, so that residents of the neighborhood "don't have to leave."

The main issues are maintaining the momentum and creating an entity to coordinate agencies, lobby for funds, guide development, oversee spending, and assure businesses get the services they need. Right now the civic groups are thrashing out governance options, whether a Local Development Corporation, an Economic Development Corporation Task Force, or other public private structure, to sustain the enterprise and keep alive at the seaport the spirit and energy that were there when it began.


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Old June 26th, 2006, 10:01 PM   #248
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Those other buildings that make up the world trade center, (new one), how tall are they, I know the freedom tower is 1776 ft, around there, are those two large ones near it 900ft to a 1000ft?
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Old June 26th, 2006, 11:21 PM   #249
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The heights, for the Triplet Towers, are supposed to be around 1,150 feet, 1050 feet, and 1,000 feet. The fifth tower will most likely be 950 feet.
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Old June 27th, 2006, 02:20 AM   #250
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New Super-Group Plans a World-Class Downtown
DUMBO ORGANIZATION ALSO MAKES ITS DEBUT


by Dennis Holt
06-23-2006

DOWNTOWN BROOKLYN — It is called the New Partnership for Downtown Brooklyn, a culmination of sorts of the ongoing effort to build a new Downtown.

Beginning as soon as various legal matters are completed, the partnership will be responsible for coordinating, leading, and planning all relative efforts for the continued evolving of creating a world-class Downtown.

Rumored for weeks, the establishment of this unit, which will report directly to the Deputy Mayor for Economic Development in the Mayor’s Office, was announced at the combined annual meetings of the Downtown Brooklyn Council, the Fulton Mall Improvement Association and the MetroTech Business Improvement District, held yesterday morning.

It was also announced the night before at the first meeting of the DUMBO Improvement District, a new BID without the word “business” in its title.

At both meetings, Josh Sirefman, the new president of the city Economic Development Corporation, made the announcement. Sirefman became known in Brooklyn for being on the planning team to create Brooklyn Bridge Park.

The executive director of the partnership will be Joe Chan, who lives in the Sweeney Building in DUMBO and formerly worked for the Brooklyn Chamber of Commerce. Lately he has been the senior policy advisor in the Deputy Mayor’s Office.

In explaining why the new organization was created, Sirefman noted all the development going on in Downtown Brooklyn, and said that “it is time that these various efforts, and those yet to come, have one place and one person to oversee all activities.” (Also, to have this function reporting directly to the mayor is not to be overlooked.)

Technically, the new entity will be a Local Development Corporation/ Business Improvement District. It will have an initial $2 million operating budget. It will be responsible for for coordinating matters with the BIDS for general planning, for marketing Downtown Brooklyn, for design and construction, and for efforts involving the BAM cultural district.

At the meeting that drew a sizeable number of Brooklyn’s leaders — in part because of the anticipation of announcement of the Partnership, and partly because the guest speaker was City Council Speaker Christine Quinn — it was also announced that the Fulton Mall Improvement Association, the city’s first BID, is 30 years old.


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The previous DUMBO meeting on Wednesday night, at the St. Ann’s warehouse on Water Street, was the first meeting of this new organization. It was presided over by Tucker Reed, the organization’s new executive director.

He pointed out that most BIDs stress the business element — making it more appealing to shop within their areas — over others. In DUMBO, however, everybody is in the same boat, businesses, residents and visitors.

He highlighted some of the area’s needs — the buildings are old, and the infrastructure is out of date. Two critical situations that can cause floods have been documented by the Department of Environmental Protection. A study is being completed on public parking needs. While Sanitation pickup is only three days a week, a throwback to the industrial days, it will soon go to six days.

The MTA admits that the High Street and York Street subway stations need a complete overhaul, but this can’t be undertaken until 2010 at the earliest.

Beginning this fall, however, Washington Street will be completely overhauled with new sewer lines, new sidewalks, and new Belgian block street paving. Reed said that he hopes this will be “an example of what we can expect for other streets here in the future.”

The DUMBO organization will come under the new umbrella of the Partnership.

At the Thursday morning meeting, District Attorney Joe Hynes summed up where things were by saying, “In 1989, the bad old days for Downtown Brooklyn, no one thought we would be talking about such a bright future.”


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Old June 27th, 2006, 02:40 AM   #251
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I noticed almost immediately. I have a filthy, filthy mind.
A dirty, diry mind!! Filthy! Filthy! Filthy!
So, is the 1st pic your hand or did u get it on the internet?
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A dirty, diry mind!! Filthy! Filthy! Filthy!
So, is the 1st pic your hand or did u get it on the internet?
From the net. Just did an image search on Google. It seems you really can get anything online.
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Old June 28th, 2006, 07:12 AM   #253
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The completion date of WTC Tower Two was just put up on Silverstein's site; even though, out of all of the towers (besides Freedom Tower), it has had the most progress, it won't be completed until 2012, but all of the other towers, including Freedom Tower, will be done by 2011. This might mean that Tower Two could be pretty massive. Also, I've heard somewhere that the new WTC masterplan will be released tomorrow, so we might know more then.
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Old June 30th, 2006, 01:52 AM   #254
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Condo culture hits S. Bronx



Artist drawing of
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By LORE CROGHAN
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June 29, 2006

Affordable housing is going upscale in the South Bronx - where excavation is under way for the area's first elevatored condo building.

The nine-story Orion will rise on Third Ave. near E. 156th St. in Melrose Commons, a 35-block urban renewal zone where a new wave of construction is starting.

Once burned-out South Bronx nabes are seeing a real estate resurgence, as old factories become handsome rental apartment buildings and townhouses sprout on vacant lots.

"This is a breakthrough," said architect Magnus Magnusson, whose firm designed the Orion and has an ownership stake in it. "It will show that the South Bronx is no longer the backwater of New York City."

His firm, Melrose Associates, is one of four partners developing the Orion - and a second condo building set to break ground later this summer.

The quartet includes Nos Quedamos (We Stay) - a community group that got the city to abandon an urban renewal plan that would have evicted thousands of Melrose residents and businesses - and builders Procida Realty & Construction and L&M Equity.

"We believe everybody needs a little piece of something to own," said Yolanda Gonzalez, Nos Quedamos' executive director.

The 60 condos in the brick and cast-stone design at 3044 Third Ave. will have fancy touches like bamboo floors, though most units are for low- to moderate-income buyers.

The developers hope to start the sale process in the fall, said Christine Procida of Procida Realty & Construction.

The builders get tax breaks and grants from the city.

Seven units are for low-income purchasers - who earn $58,320 or less per year for a family of four. A total of 39 apartments are for middle-income buyers - who earn up to $80,190 annually for a family of four - or moderate-income buyers, who top out at $94,770 for a family of four.

Fourteen flats are "market-rate" - with no income restrictions.

Prices are expected to range from around $145,000 for one-bedrooms for low-income buyers to about $325,000 for market-rate three-bedrooms, Procida said.

The developers will coordinate a lottery for buyers with the city Housing Preservation and Development department and the Housing Partnership Development Corp. People who want their names on a mailing list for notification about the start of the lottery should call Procida at (718) 299-7000, extension 221.

The second building is called the Aurora and will have 90 units - 7 for low-income buyers, 62 for moderate-income buyers and 21 market-rate flats.


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Old June 30th, 2006, 02:20 AM   #255
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http://www.nytimes.com/2006/06/28/re.../28queens.html
Changing Face of Queens: From Small Asian Shops to High-End Stores

By ALISON GREGOR
Published: June 28, 2006


Robert Stolarik for The New York Times

Michael Lee, left, TDC's chairman, and Michael Meyer, its president, at Queens Crossing.


IF you're looking for cafes serving bubble tea or herbalists offering dried lotus blossoms or purveyors of waving-cat trinkets, downtown Flushing, the city's second-biggest Chinatown and the largest urban center in Queens, has them in large quantity. But in the next few years, the area may also welcome a host of more mainstream retailers.

Almost 1.3 million square feet of retail space is planned in at least three major mixed-use developments — about the same area as at the renowned Mall at Short Hills in New Jersey — and a few hundred thousand feet of office space is also being developed. The first new stores are to open by the end of this year.

Flushing is already a pan-Asian enclave that is a first stop for many immigrants from China, Korea and Malaysia, among other countries.

Developers are hoping it will soon be a stop for American shoppers. "You have to make this area a destination," said Michael Meyer, president of TDC Development L.L.C., which is involved in two of the mixed-use projects.

Mr. Meyer is relatively new to the community. But the chairman and chief executive of TDC, Michael Lee, an immigrant from Taiwan, arrived in Flushing two decades ago and has purchased a substantial portion of the area's properties. TDC is a subsidiary of the F&T Group, a real estate company.

Mr. Lee owns the Flushing Mall, a longstanding collection of boutique shops and restaurants on 39th Avenue, where signs are in Chinese and Korean. He also developed the nearby Prince Center in 2003; it is a complex of ground-floor retail space, now full of restaurants, and office condominiums that netted about $500 a square foot.

Office condos are fairly unusual for New York City, but the market is receptive in Flushing. "What drives a lot of this is the whole ethnic tradition and culture; the Chinese mentality is very much an ownership mentality," Mr. Meyer said.

Mr. Lee is building another office condominium project: Queens Crossing, a 12-story building being framed at the corner of Main Street, Flushing's main shopping artery, and 39th Avenue. It will have 190,000 square feet of office space in about 80 office condominiums, and 86,000 square feet of parking.

The building has a waiting list of more than 200 businesses, Mr. Meyer claimed. "Queens Crossing sales, on a net square footage basis, are now estimated at $750," he said.

The development will also have about 110,000 square feet of retail space, which has not yet been leased. It will open by the end of this year. "We're looking for mainstream retailers like bookstores and health clubs and restaurants and apparel stores," Mr. Meyer said.

But Queens Crossing would be dwarfed by another proposed development a block away called Flushing Commons, which envisions having a total of almost two million square feet. Flushing Commons is expected to be completed in about four years on the site of a municipal parking lot that now has space for about 1,100 vehicles.

That development, with 500 residential units and about 350,000 square feet of retail space, will aim to attract more upscale retailers than currently operate in Flushing. While the city has given approval to the general concept of this project, it is still going through public hearings.

Thus far, the developers of Flushing Commons — Mr. Lee and a partner, the Rockefeller Development Corporation — envision that much of the retail space will be used by a multiscreen cinema, a national-chain bookstore and a supermarket like Whole Foods, along with some smaller stores. Roughly 15,000 square feet of space dedicated to office condominiums is being envisioned for professionals like doctors and lawyers.

Flushing Commons will also include a 200-room hotel, where developers would like to see a Westin, Mr. Meyer said.

Alan L. Stein, a senior vice president at Rockefeller, said the developers, which won a bid to develop the city-owned property a year ago, had promised not to introduce any "big box" stores into the complex.

Robin Abrams, an executive vice president of the Lansco Corporation, a commercial real estate brokerage firm that consulted on the project, said she envisioned retailers like Scoop, Cole Haan and Sephora setting up shop in the development.

Stores like those "are all over Manhattan, but don't have a presence in Flushing," Ms. Abrams said. "Frankly, the thought is there's a huge Asian population that has disposable income that is currently shopping in Manhattan or even in Manhasset" on Long Island.

Mr. Meyer said that some retailers might be intimidated by the ethnic nature of the market, but that the developers believed they could convince them that they had nothing to fear.

Also, retailers that already have outlets in Asia would be comfortable in downtown Flushing, said Josh Segal, owner of the Segal Realty Group, a commercial real estate firm that also consulted on Flushing Commons. "It's like Shanghai on the Flushing River," he said.

Already going in alongside the Flushing River is one of the largest mixed-use developments. The Muss Development Company is building 1,000 residential units in several towers on a 14-acre site. The $800 million project will also include an 800,000-square-foot shopping center anchored by national retailers.

The first phase of the project will not be completed until 2008 at the earliest, said Jim Jarosik, a senior vice president at Muss.

Flushing residents are watching the explosion of commercial development closely. Real estate professionals say Home Depot and Target are rumored to be anchor tenants at the Muss project, which is called Flushing Town Center, although the developer would not identify the stores it was negotiating with.

Some Flushing residents say they believe that if retailers of that sort go into the development, there may be traffic backups along Roosevelt Avenue, said Chuck Apelian, vice chairman of Community Board 7, which represents downtown Flushing.

Downtown Flushing, a transportation hub that has 24 bus lines and the terminus of the No. 7 subway, is an area that is used by nearly 100,000 commuters daily, according to the Downtown Flushing Transit Hub Business Improvement District, and has become synonymous with traffic congestion. A group called Save Our Flushing Community has formed to protest the Flushing Commons project. Others maintain that additional traffic snarls would not hurt business.

Even if retail rents head far north of the $100 a square foot paid at certain locations on Main Street, the owner of Pho Vietnamese on Prince Street, Tai Ma, who has lived and worked in Flushing for 29 years, said he welcomed the new commercial development. "The rent here is going high anyway," he said. "If you want to develop Flushing, you need something big."
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Crane Operators Threaten Strike at Many Construction Sites


By STEVEN GREENHOUSE
Published: June 30, 2006

The union representing most of the city's crane operators is threatening to strike tomorrow in a move that could shut down most of the city's major construction sites.

Building industry officials said that if the International Union of Operating Engineers struck, it would be hard for other construction unions to continue work at most sites because the engineers' union does such crucial work, controlling the cranes that carry building materials.

"A strike would affect more than 1,000 sites," said Christopher O. Ward, managing director of the General Contractors Association of Greater New York, which represents 150 construction contractors. "It could range from very important public projects, like the foundation of the Freedom Tower, to small roads and bridge jobs."

Talks broke down yesterday between the contractors association and the operating engineers' union, which represents more than 2,600 workers who operate cranes, backhoes, compressors and drilling rigs that dig to help prepare for footings and foundations.

Mr. Ward said the main sticking point was the contractors' demand to increase productivity by reducing what some industry officials say are jobs that require almost no work, like engineers who do little more than turn on a compressor in the morning and shut it off in the afternoon.

One of the union's main concerns was that there be an adequate retraining program for any workers whose jobs are phased out.

James. T. Callahan, president of Local 15 of the operating engineers, said in a statement that his union was offering to sign interim agreements with contractors to prevent work from stopping at several especially important projects, like the World Trade Center site and Water Tunnel No. 3, which will help supply the city's drinking water and is expected to be complete in 2020. Such interim agreements would allow these high-visibility projects to continue and would provide work for at least some of the union's members.

Mr. Callahan did not return calls requesting an interview.

Mr. Ward said the contractors association and its individual members would decide whether to sign interim agreements.

The General Contractors Association has already reached contract agreements with seven unions, including the carpenters, but has not yet reached agreement with three unions: the operating engineers, the Teamsters and the underground construction workers known as sandhogs.

Mr. Ward said the association had offered the operating engineers a five-year contract with raises of 6 percent every year. The basic pay scale for union members is $72.03 an hour to $82.65 an hour, he said.


"For those people where technology has taken the place of their jobs, it is our hope that we can retrain them and bring increased productivity to the workplace," Mr. Ward said.


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Well I hope if they do go on strike it isn't for long and they work out their problems. I wonder what kind of pay one of those engineers get just turning on and off a compressor?
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^ I heard that they get about 160K a year.
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Old June 30th, 2006, 03:00 PM   #259
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160K, I think am going to try and get into that. I need a job and that type of money is good.
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Wow, that's some easy money!
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