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Old March 26th, 2014, 05:51 PM   #4321
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One Riverside Park construction. Sorry for terrible quality on this video:

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Old March 27th, 2014, 12:30 AM   #4322
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renderings revealed permits filed for cabrini medical center





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BuzzBuzz Home spotted some renderings on architects Avoid Obvious' site of Joseph Chetrit's planned Cabrini Medical Center conversion. Although we've actually already seen these renderings on the site's construction fence, now we're really seeing them in all their highly defined glory. Chetrit and co. filed plans last July for a residential conversion that would spread 250 units between four buildings, but those were denied. Now new plans have been filed for one of the buildings, 228 East 20th Street, which is slated to be 75 feet tall, with bike storage, a swimming pool, rooftop recreation space, and an indeterminate number of units.
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Old March 27th, 2014, 12:38 AM   #4323
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I didn't know about this but another Herzog and DeMeuron project in NYC?

starchitect firm likely designing 12story west street condo

http://ny.curbed.com/archives/2014/0...condo.php#more
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It looks like lower Manhattan will be treated to another building by starchitect firm Herzog & de Meuron. A tipster tells us that the Board of Standards and Appeals voted today to approve a variance for a HdM-designed 12-story mixed-use residential building on West Street across from Pier 40 between Leroy and Clarkson Streets. The address application on the BSA website lists 354/361 West Street as the property (BSA calendar number 192-13-BZ, if you want to search for it), and public records show that the site, along with 357 West Street and 156 Leroy Street, changed hands last year and is now owned by an entity identified as "AP-Isc Leroy Property Owner LLC C/O Ian Schrager Company"—i.e. a partnership between developer Area Property Partners and hotelier Ian Schrager. If that rings a bell, it's because it was reported last April that Schrager was in talks with Richard Mack of Area Property, who has owned the property for several years, to co-develop the site. We've reached out to both companies, as well as Herzog & de Meuron, for comment. UPDATE: The Greenwich Village Society for Historic Preservation had a digital copy of the developer's statement of findings, submitted along with the BSA application, which confirms that Herzog & de Meuron is indeed the architect.

The properties are currently occupied by a collection of smaller commercial and industrial buildings, and no demolition permits have been filed with the Department of Buildings. A new building permit for a 13-story, 67-unit building was filed for 156 Leroy Street in May 2013, but the plan is still pending. Michael Overington, Vice Chairman and Partner of the Ian Schrager Company, is listed as the site owner. Herzog & de Meuron is not listed on the application, but that doesn't necessarily mean anything; HdM is also not listed on the permits for their Jenga-like tower 56 Leonard Street. Often developers use a separate firm as the "architect of record," which files official documents. So details may be foggy, but one thing is sure: big changes are in store for this West Street site. If you have any other intel, the tipline is ready and waiting.

The statement of findings submitted with the BSA application, posted in full below, has no renderings attached, but gives this description of the building:

"Herzog & de Meuron Architects have designed the proposed building as a 12 story 155 foot high curvilinear structure occupying the full West Street block front and extending down both Leroy and Clarkson Streets. With a nod to streetwalls, the proposed building is designed with a primarily glass continuous curvilinear frontage that provides for an undulating, but consistent edge along West Street and both side streets. However, instead of a setback at a certain height, the building's open movement at and away from the street line provides for a similar effect, opening up the street to more light and air as you walk along the frontage."
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Old March 31st, 2014, 04:19 PM   #4324
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Fabulous project! Finally some 21st century ornaments.
I feel there's still a lot of untapped potential.
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Old March 31st, 2014, 04:24 PM   #4325
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Robert A. M. Stern | NYC Architect, New Classical Style | *1939

Since Stern was featured on the previous page here, let's have a closer look, as he's really relevant to contemporary NYC development:

New York architect Robert A.M. Stern today is one of the most prestigious and best-known NYC architects. He's known for his postmodern works since the 80s and more recently for high-quality New Classical Architecture throughout the world.

He was the 2011 laureate of the Driehaus Architecture Prize. Read more about it here.
The award comes with a prize money of $200,000 - twice that of the hyped modernist Pritzker Prize.



New classical style Robert A. M. Stern highrise projects for New York in 2014:

15 Central Park West, 30 Park Place, 220 Central Park South, 520 Park Avenue

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Imho, Stern should even go farther, add modern ornamentation, sculptures and feel free to innovate organically (compare to GE Building). My guess is investors are the ones who interfere once it might look too classical or Art Nouveauesque innovative.


1994 Fell Hall Highrise at Brooklyn Law School, NYC by Stern Architects:

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/F..._Fell_Hall.jpg

Neither a luxury condo or hotel tower, but a school.
There's loads of educational buildings in New Classical Architecture in the US and esp. NYC, also many churches, public buildings, private residences and midclass condo towers.

Also check this NYC architects thread I recently created.
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Old March 31st, 2014, 04:24 PM   #4326
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56 Leonard is awful!
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Old March 31st, 2014, 04:26 PM   #4327
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Nice building. Looks really genuine this time!
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Old March 31st, 2014, 04:32 PM   #4328
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220 Central Park South by Robert Stern

And since this super-slim tower of Robert Stern didn't get too much coverage so far at this thread:

NEW YORK | 220 Central Park South | 290m | 950ft | 65 fl | Prep

Somewhat "Neo Art Deco". More and better such stuff please!























Source: http://ny.curbed.com/archives/2014/0...r_revealed.php

March 2014 demolition works on site:
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Art Deco's reborn, finally!

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I think the tower could need a better top (crown, spire) and some
Art-Deco-style technological ornamentation in a 21st century manner.
That'd make this tower immortal. I also think it's a tad too slim seen from the side.
But apart from that, I think it's so much better than cubic faceless modernist
atrocities like 432 Park Ave right around the corner or hideously proportioned 56 Leonard.
Marvels like Tower Verre are awesome of course.
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Old March 31st, 2014, 04:36 PM   #4329
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If 432 Park was faceless nobody would be talking about it
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Old March 31st, 2014, 04:39 PM   #4330
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It's huge and ridiculously proportioned. That's why everybody talks about it. Not its totally random architecture.

You're still right, it's making some heavy impact. I wouldn't call it a "face" though, rather a sore thumb.


http://www.designboom.com/architectu...he-hemisphere/


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Never forget about what had to make place for this tasteless concrete monster:

This opulence, unique Manhattan history. These buildings had a face, told a story.

Drake Hotel - demolished for 432 Park Ave


Classical New York townhouses - demolished for 432 Park Ave

and these

Source: http://wirednewyork.com/forum/showthread.php?t=13337
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Old March 31st, 2014, 05:07 PM   #4331
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Enough with the trolling already. You dont like it. We get it.

Plenty of us do love it and you dont get to decide why we love it. Just let it go.
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Old March 31st, 2014, 05:17 PM   #4332
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erbse, quit trolling. You seem to have an obsession with bashing New York.
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Old March 31st, 2014, 05:17 PM   #4333
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I love NYC. That's why I won't close my eyes in front of modernists destroying one of the world's greatest gems.

And who are you to speak for everyone in here, LCIII? There's plenty of people other than me who openly expressed their dislike for the building. Don't say "we like it" when you mean "I like it". I don't do that either.

This is an architecture forum, thus we're living on discourse. Just let it go if you don't like to discuss. People who aren't in charge of moderation playing the sheriff are the one's trolling imho. Especially when your posts are solely ad hominem and don't add anything to the topic.

Sadly, the NYC forums of SSC are rather empty these days, with only a few people contributing.

Anyway, I won't continue the 432 Park Ave discussion, I got worked up about it too much already.
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Old March 31st, 2014, 06:22 PM   #4334
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What was one of the world's greatest gems? The Drake? Not a chance. In fact I would say it was nothing special even for NYC.
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NYC as a whole is (and perhaps soon was) one of the world's greatest gems, for it offering vast ensembles of early skyscraper history, fading out more and more.
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Half of NYC is old landmarked districts. It's not losing its history.
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Old March 31st, 2014, 06:33 PM   #4337
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The issue remains, that the really interesting sections in central Manhattan
are getting overcrowded with concrete monsters.

Btw, is that even real?

107 West 57th by SHoP


http://i.imgur.com/fWoH3tc.png


At least it has setbacks, but well...
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Old March 31st, 2014, 06:41 PM   #4338
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New York is New York.. Like London is London.

The sister cities grow and change… but ultimately remain badass!
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Old March 31st, 2014, 06:44 PM   #4339
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I love NYC. That's why I won't close my eyes in front of modernists destroying one of the world's greatest gems.

And who are you to speak for everyone in here, LCIII? There's plenty of people other than me who openly expressed their dislike for the building. Don't say "we like it" when you mean "I like it". I don't do that either.

This is an architecture forum, thus we're living on discourse. Just let it go if you don't like to discuss. People who aren't in charge of moderation playing the sheriff are the one's trolling imho. Especially when your posts are solely ad hominem and don't add anything to the topic.

Sadly, the NYC forums of SSC are rather empty these days, with only a few people contributing.

Anyway, I won't continue the 432 Park Ave discussion, I got worked up about it too much already.

Nimby's love NYC too! I don't think you even live here in NYC do you so you don't have an understanding of it's politics because you are over generalizing. Much of the city is protected btw and yes not all cases can a nice building can be saved. It's a delicate balance between preserving and building here. Honestly you should stop trolling here. This is not the thread to drum your Nimby shtick! You made a thread for it and you should keep your debates limited to there instead of imposing your shpeal.

Trust me we all get your views over and over again. WE GET IT..... It is respected but respect others and keep it in your thread which I will not visit.

Don't make me stop coming to this thread because I do not come here for it. If you are not using the thread you created anymore then may I suggest you delete it?? If you like to discuss take it to your thread is all I'm saying.
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This is a NYC project thread and I'm discussing projects. What are you discussing here?
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