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Old September 30th, 2016, 11:44 AM   #6981
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That green terra-cotta(?) should look interesting.
I agree. The contrast with the neighboring tower is quite nice, anyhow, once the bronze on One Manhattan Square changes to turquoise, the contrast will somehow disappear. I wonder if there is any way to make the bronze shiny, without too expensive maintenance.
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Old September 30th, 2016, 06:03 PM   #6982
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This one is incredible!
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Old September 30th, 2016, 06:14 PM   #6983
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That green terra-cotta(?) should look interesting.

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Old September 30th, 2016, 06:26 PM   #6984
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^ If only this tower's top would taper, two or three setbacks in the upper half would really compliment this tower's soaring facade!
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Old September 30th, 2016, 07:11 PM   #6985
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^ If only this tower's top would taper, two or three setbacks in the upper half would really compliment this tower's soaring facade!
I agree completely.. I'm still on the fence, and I think that's my biggest problem with this tower. The glass/terracotta stripes create so much verticality but then they just go nowhere, they just end so abruptly that the tower becomes a bit monolithic (dare I say like the Verizon building). I do like how they staggered the termination of the stripes at the top at least (see pic below), and I do think this is one tower that would look better in person than in renders.


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Old September 30th, 2016, 07:28 PM   #6986
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Totally what I thought. They would just need to narrow the upper two segments a bit each where the plazas are, maybe just like 10 feet in diameter. It'd hardly be a loss in usable space, but a great gain in proportions and overall aesthetics. It could become an urban rock formation instead of a bulky flat battery.
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Old September 30th, 2016, 07:48 PM   #6987
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Penn Station proposal by Practice for Architecture and Urbanism

In addition to the new Farley/Moynihan expansion for Penn Station on the last page of this thread....

Here is a new proposal set forth by the Practice for Architecture and Urbanism to transform/repurpose the existing Madison Square Garden into a grand new train hall for Penn Station



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Its passive heat and cooling system would lower operating costs and let smoke escape through the top in an emergency. Independent cost consultants estimated the price tag to be around $1.5 billion.

...But equally important, “recycling” what’s there allows for the building of an ambitious new station at minimal cost and disruption. We could restore a gateway to New York with a scale consistent with other great public spaces in the city.

...The Garden, which is getting old and has problems of its own, has compelling reasons to move. Given fair incentives, its owners, who have shown themselves to be reasonable and civic-minded, could be willing to move the arena 800 feet to the west end of the Farley Building, where there is over one million square feet of underutilized space

...We would take off its unsightly concrete cladding, demolish the interior, rebuild the mezzanines and vertical circulation to the platforms below, and remove many of the support columns on the train platforms that passengers have to dodge today. The concrete cladding would be replaced by a “double skin,” a blastproof glass facade that would allow in light and views while enabling passive heating and cooling.

...We propose that the ceiling, which is the roof of the existing arena, feature a map of New York to orient travelers, a contemporary update of the stars on the ceiling of Grand Central.
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Old September 30th, 2016, 08:03 PM   #6988
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Nahh, come on. Not worth the effort at all.

Better rebuild the Old Penn! More timeless beauty, more class, more functionality - more NYC.
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Old September 30th, 2016, 08:06 PM   #6989
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Nahh, come on. Not worth the effort at all.

Better rebuild the Old Penn! More timeless beauty, more class, more functionality - more NYC.
For only $1.6 billion totally worth the effort... the old Penn would cost so many more billions more... We can always hope though
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Old September 30th, 2016, 10:06 PM   #6990
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For only $1.6 billion totally worth the effort... the old Penn would cost so many more billions more... We can always hope though
Even though I would prefer they rebuilt the old Penn station, I agree that for "only" $1.6 billion, NYTimes scheme seems like a pretty good deal and easier to construct. I'd rather see a dignified train station sooner rather than later.
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Old September 30th, 2016, 10:13 PM   #6991
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^ If only this tower's top would taper, two or three setbacks in the upper half would really compliment this tower's soaring facade!
What makes this building comparatively worse is that green terracotta is a typical Art Deco material.





In the right hands and with the right design the effect is lush and elegant. Shop's design lacks the rhythm, elegance, detail, etc. of those old designs. It looks plodding and inert.
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Old October 1st, 2016, 12:23 AM   #6993
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I agree completely.. I'm still on the fence, and I think that's my biggest problem with this tower.
I agree with the two of you -- setbacks would make a big difference in the overall appeal of this tower. It seems to me that JDS and SHoP have a unique opportunity to create a dialogue between this tower and 9 Dekalb, which is going up across the water (excuse the janky Preview cut-and-paste job)...





Not that they need to be twins by any means, but they're going to be seen and photographed together all the time, so why not give them a stronger visual relationship? They could become the two iconic anchors of the Manhattan Bridge.
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Old October 1st, 2016, 01:47 PM   #6994
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Will the new Madison Square Garden stay true to it's old design or will it be an entirely new structure?
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Old October 1st, 2016, 02:25 PM   #6995
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Old October 1st, 2016, 02:26 PM   #6996
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Will the new Madison Square Garden stay true to it's old design or will it be an entirely new structure?
Entirely new structure, if this plan were to go through
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Old October 1st, 2016, 02:39 PM   #6997
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Old October 2nd, 2016, 10:12 AM   #6998
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33 Bond Street - September 23, 2016


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Old October 2nd, 2016, 10:22 AM   #6999
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Old October 2nd, 2016, 08:41 PM   #7000
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