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Old January 1st, 2016, 05:26 PM   #961
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The Dubai FD did a great job getting the fire under control in a few hours.

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Old January 1st, 2016, 05:53 PM   #962
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First of all: They will probably have to replace all the cladding of the building with a fire resistant one to prevent this from happening again.
We can also see that there was still black smoke coming out of the building in the morning. Black smoke indicates an incompletely burned down fire - typical for room fires. That means that the fire must have gone inside the building.
I just hope, they didn't use a similar cladding for The Address - The BLVD.

I think some members in this forum need this to be pointed out again: It was not The Address - The BLVD that caught fire yesterday, but The Address Downtown Dubai - a luxury hotel tower which was completed eight years ago.
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Old January 1st, 2016, 06:50 PM   #963
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^ Its just a shame, this was one of the best towers in Dubai and I was planning on staying there in the future. I just hope the Dubai govt. and emaar works fast to fix the building interior and exterior, and I think they will, because currently the address really is an embarrassment to Dubai. I agree with one Jhalsey when he said they need exterior sprinkler, we saw it on the torch, and on the address we also saw it with the cosmopolitan in Las Vegas however the cosmopolitan had a glass fašade rather than a cladding fašade. I think the Dubai fire codes have to change for the future and all existing buildings with cladding like the Princess Tower should have to be installed with exterior sprinklers. Over the balconies and just resting on the fašade.
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Old January 1st, 2016, 06:52 PM   #964
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I always liked the Address, I thought its a good design. Hopefully they can repair it quickly.
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Old January 1st, 2016, 06:55 PM   #965
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Heres the cosmopolitan in Las Vegas, the only reason the entire exterior of this building wasn't burn't like the address is because of the difference in fašade.
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Old January 1st, 2016, 06:58 PM   #966
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I wonder what damages the water made to the structure , that was needed to put out the fire, and how it might effect the concrete and if it might result in mold or the likes.

It must be a hell of a job now, to fix such immense issues on an already built tower that was damaged this badly by fires and water. It will stay like this until plans are made how to fix it, i guess it will take months until we see any works on the tower.
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Old January 1st, 2016, 07:06 PM   #967
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Heres the cosmopolitan in Las Vegas, the only reason the entire exterior of this building wasn't burn't like the address is because of the difference in fašade.
And the non ultra-flammable facade.
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Old January 1st, 2016, 07:09 PM   #968
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Sure there is another material but you have to know that if the fire in Las Vegas would have started on a balcony instead of the pool terrace with strong winds, the fire would have spread also there, maybe not that much, but i would have spread at least down and wide.
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Old January 1st, 2016, 07:25 PM   #969
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I just hope, they didn't use a similar cladding for The Address - The BLVD.
Given the fact that Emaar have a huge number of U/C towers now maybe this will be a wake up call on how to clad them with better fire resistant material. Concerning BLVD I think it is less costly now (in case they using the same shitty cladding as Downtown Address) to replace or upgrade the cladding since the tower is still U/C

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I guess it will take months until we see any works on the tower.
Since Dubai cares deeply about its image and since this one is located in the heart of it I won't be surprised if the ruler himself ordered Emaar or whoever is responsible to start fixing it ASAP.
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Old January 1st, 2016, 07:48 PM   #970
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Sure there is another material but you have to know that if the fire in Las Vegas would have started on a balcony instead of the pool terrace with strong winds, the fire would have spread also there, maybe not that much, but i would have spread at least down and wide.
There was a fire at the hancock tower earlier this year. Didnt spread.

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Old January 1st, 2016, 09:39 PM   #971
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I just really question the timing and place of the fire. This could be intentional....
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Old January 1st, 2016, 10:05 PM   #972
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The damage sadly turned out to be almost as bad as i expected 20-30% of the Skyscrapers entire facade needs to be replaced. And there might be internal fire damage many places too.
The entire tower will have to be repaired. The fire destroyed everything except the concrete structure, to some extent.

This incident all show up once gain how unsafe are the buildings in Dubai: they build cheap and minimum safety measures are not met.

This is just not acceptable.
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Old January 1st, 2016, 10:13 PM   #973
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Old January 1st, 2016, 10:16 PM   #974
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cos it is . top floor is NEO bar at 63rd floor
Ok, then I guess the question is, why is does the title here say 72 floors?
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Old January 1st, 2016, 10:17 PM   #975
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There was a fire at the hancock tower earlier this year. Didnt spread.
Of course not, that's only glass and steel.
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Old January 1st, 2016, 10:19 PM   #976
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Ok, then I guess the question is, why is does the title here say 72 floors?
Because the tower that was on fire ( The Address Downtown Dubai ) is not the subject of this thread, so actually all of this is off topic.
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Old January 1st, 2016, 10:22 PM   #977
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Because the tower that was on fire ( The Address Downtown Dubai ) is not the subject of this thread, so actually all of this is off topic.
I see, thanks. I liked the old name better anyway - Burj Dubai Lake Hotel - maybe after the fire repairs they could revert to the old name (Or call it Burj Khalifa Lake Hotel)
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Old January 2nd, 2016, 03:11 AM   #978
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In my limited knowledge, I would expect it to be demolished.
No doubt the fire would of destroyed complex parts of the buildings infrastructure and compromised the structure.

Likely a bigger tower (phoenix) to replace it. Potentially extension of the mall. Fountain views has a similar extension on the bottom part of the podium.

The Address BLVD was the queen of Downtown and will likely be acted on quickly after the investigation stage.

My thoughts are with the people who had and have booked to stay. That place would of been fully booked. Like most of Downtown hotel rooms.
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Old January 2nd, 2016, 03:16 AM   #979
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In my limited knowledge, I would expect it to be demolished.
No doubt the fire would of destroyed complex parts of the buildings infrastructure and compromised the structure.

Likely a bigger tower (phoenix) to replace it. Potentially extension of the mall. Fountain views has a similar extension on the bottom part of the podium.
I think it is very unlikely that this will happen. The structure can't be seriously damaged, because it is out of concrete and it would cost way more money than a renovation to demolish a supertall and build a new skyscraper.
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Old January 2nd, 2016, 03:45 AM   #980
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I do agree, but this Emaar and they will be insured to the hilt on this building. Please correct me if I am wrong, but the Build cost have reduced. Say for a 5star hotel, 1200aed sqft.. The Address was for sale at 3000-4000aed. The cost for shell and core would be possible at 250aed sqft as rebar and concrete costs, unsure how much I would cost to demolish.

They will have to strip the tower back to shell and core, so though I'm adding 300M aed to the rebuild, if they made the tower

What was the gfa on this, 1.2m sqft and a bua of 0.8m sqft

If they can add an extra 0.2m sqft to it and sort out the retail, that cost will be covered by the increase in sellable area.

What do I know,,
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