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Old March 4th, 2007, 02:34 AM   #101
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Yes, Tokyo is higher, I just checked the ridership.

20 million, subway included. That is quite amazing.

Paris is only 4.1 million.

So..

1) Tokyo
2) Mumbai
3) NYC
4) Paris
5) London


and yes, it is for all days, weekends included.
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Old March 4th, 2007, 11:33 AM   #102
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I think I read somewhere that Zürich has the most commuter rails per citicen.

Of course the city itself is much smaller as the cities mentioned earlier.

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Old March 4th, 2007, 01:36 PM   #103
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Yes, Tokyo is higher, I just checked the ridership.

20 million, subway included. That is quite amazing.

Paris is only 4.1 million.

So..

1) Tokyo
2) Mumbai
3) NYC
4) Paris
5) London


and yes, it is for all days, weekends included.

What's about Moscow?
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Old March 4th, 2007, 01:57 PM   #104
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Paris is only 4.1 million.
but Paris number are wrong
4.1 million par average day (all day week include) It is only for the subway and Paris has aslo RER and suburban trains
Paris railways system it is 6.6 million passengers per average day (all days week end include)

But RER and suburban train are not very used the week ends.

EDIT : Those number don't include Paris light rail system
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Old March 5th, 2007, 10:36 PM   #105
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Tuberman Only 6 at 7 million passenger per day in entire U.K
It is not a bit low.
Crap, isn't it? The Tube accounts for more than half of the daily railway journies in the UK and has 4 million/day, so it follows that the mainline railways manage less than 4 million. Therefore 8 million maximum.

Of the 4-ish million mainline journies I'd expect a very large proportion to be in the London / SE England area, leaving very little for the rest of the UK.

Fortunately mainline rail ridership is growing quite healthily.
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Old March 5th, 2007, 11:00 PM   #106
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Like London
The majority of passengers transported by train in France are in Paris
but we have some other big cities with a good subways system
Like your data It is per average workdays

Paris metro : 5 million
RER : 3.5 million
Suburban train : 1-1.5 million (Estimation Suburban train are not very used the week ends the real number should be higher)

About 11-12 million for all France (Per average weekday)
Intercities main lines are not include.
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Old March 6th, 2007, 06:50 AM   #107
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I know that Hamburg can't compete here, but maybe these data can be used to make an ultimate ranking list.
According to the Hamburg Transport authority (HVV) there are 27 rapid transit rail lines. Out of these are 3 U-Bahn (metro) lines, 6 S-Bahn (commuter rail acting like a metro) and the rest regional rail lines. All 27 lines transported 438 million passengers in the year 2005. Out of these 177 million (or 485,000 daily) are accounted for the U-Bahn. The remaining 261 million transported by the other 24 lines result in 715,000 passengers per day. Out of these are ca. 500,000 accounted for the S-Bahn.

So you get the following numbers:
all lines: 1.2 million
commuter lines (incl. S-Bahn): 715,000
commuter lines (excl. S-Bahn): 215,000

The problem however with the Hamburg U-Bahn and S-Bahn is that they share a lot of the same characteristics. Some branches of the U-Bahn could be easily seen as commuter rail while the central parts of the S-Bahn network are used like a metro. The same problem applies to the rapid transit network of Berlin.
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Old March 6th, 2007, 10:07 AM   #108
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Crap, isn't it? The Tube accounts for more than half of the daily railway journies in the UK and has 4 million/day, so it follows that the mainline railways manage less than 4 million. Therefore 8 million maximum.

Of the 4-ish million mainline journies I'd expect a very large proportion to be in the London / SE England area, leaving very little for the rest of the UK.

Fortunately mainline rail ridership is growing quite healthily.
The Tube has only 4 million/day? I thought it has 7 million/day.
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Old March 6th, 2007, 10:21 AM   #109
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I thought the tube had 1Billion/year, which is under 3mil/day?
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Old March 6th, 2007, 02:25 PM   #110
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Of course Tuberman data are by average Workday.
It is a better for show the real traffic in trains because the weekend traffic is much lower.

Exemple the busiest line in the Europe (Russia exclude) is the RER A in Paris. with around 300 million passengers. It is managed by two compagnies RATP and Sncf (272 million passenger in the RATP section only in 2004 Dont forget that the traffic growing ) RATP section = 2/3 of the size RER A but it is more 2/3 of passengers because this section include central Paris.
It is about 820,000 passengers per average day, but it is more than 1,100,000 passengers per average workday

It is why Tube has 4 million passengers per workday but less than 3 million per day.
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Aah I see.
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Old March 7th, 2007, 11:01 PM   #112
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I thought the tube had 1Billion/year, which is under 3mil/day?

We just had out first 4 million+ day, so on average it's less taking weekends into account. We'll surely beat the 1 billion mark handsomely this year though.
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Old March 19th, 2007, 03:08 PM   #113
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Old March 25th, 2007, 05:43 PM   #114
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I think this has to be Tokyo without a doubt.

And for Gods sake.....can I just apologize for ChicagoSkyline - how freaking embarassing for everyone from Chicago. It's almost impressive how easily he can completely ruin almost any thread...
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Old March 26th, 2007, 01:35 AM   #115
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http://www.tfl.gov.uk/assets/downloads/lon_con.pdf

Paste and copy and click go this is the link to show you londons railway and underground network.

And tell me it aint the biggest ok passenger wise no but miles of track maybe
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Old March 26th, 2007, 11:18 AM   #116
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wt abt guangzhou, in the chinese new yr, it moved 30millions ppl out in afew days by train, no city in the world can do that
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Old March 26th, 2007, 02:30 PM   #117
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London, they do have the world's oldest metro. London has more than just the Tube. Thousands of mainline National Rail services transport commuters in and out of the metropolis every day. The whole of London is criss-crossed by rail. Including London Underground, mainline railways and tram links. Since the Tube mostly serves the north side of the Thames, to help improve the south side, the national rail services that serve the suburbs on the south side run by private rail companies, are being converted to metro style services. A new rail orbital rail link will have a new form of Underground trains operating on it - Overground trains. Overground is the brand name. House and job advertisments always indicate what Travel Card zone, or nearest tube or national rail stations or even tube lines. When I lived there, people who choose to live near particular tube lines.

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Old March 29th, 2007, 09:17 AM   #118
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1)Tokyo
2)London
3)several Japanese cities.
4)Paris
5)New York
6)Madrid
7)Berlin
8)Sydney
etc.

Chicago behind Tokyo? NOT EVEN CLOSE!

Sydney? How did you come to that conclusion? There are countless cities with larger commuter networks and higher passenger counts. Frankfurt alone has a commuter network 5 times larger than the whole of Sydney's "City Rail" which also includes the Newcastle and Wollongong networks (over 200km apart)
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Old March 30th, 2007, 03:51 PM   #119
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Sydney? How did you come to that conclusion? There are countless cities with larger commuter networks and higher passenger counts. Frankfurt alone has a commuter network 5 times larger than the whole of Sydney's "City Rail" which also includes the Newcastle and Wollongong networks (over 200km apart)
Newcastle and Woolongong are not separate networks from Sydney. They are all part of the Sydney based CityRail network which currently has 2000km of track with 302 stations. And the network is growing with a new tracks, tunnels and stations either currently being constructed or planned for the future. Sydney has one of the largest fleets of double decker trains in the world. Playing the roles of both urban, suburban, inter-city and inter-regional, CityRail has been described as one of the most complex rail networks in the world. With the current Clearways program, 14 rail routes will in a couple of years be reshaped into 5 clearways or rail routes. But I my self would not class Sydney as being among the best rail commuter cities in the world. It's not exactly the busiest network and dosn't cover huge portions of Sydney suburbia.

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Old March 31st, 2007, 08:52 PM   #120
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Newcastle and Woolongong are not separate networks from Sydney. They are all part of the Sydney based CityRail network which currently has 2000km of track with 302 stations. .

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