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Old April 27th, 2006, 06:51 AM   #81
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What is a URL?
The link for your saved image on the web!
something like below:
http://www.zhengzhou.gov.cn/adminsys...5052444627.jpg

copy the above url link by following the image post instruction that I show you for your next post. Lets see!
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Old April 27th, 2006, 07:08 AM   #82
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You know what...

You know what, I think that won't work because I'll only be stealing pictures from Nemo (Dutch forumer). I think it would be easier for you to check out his thread ***********Port Of Rotterdam*********** thread in the maritime sub-forum of the Infrastructure and Mobility Forums.

I'm really sorry for the trouble. But here are the posts you should see:

Post # 5 (go to the 15th pic)
Post # 48 (5th pic--see the diagram...there is the pointer/arrow that says that these coal is being transported via freight trains [Fully Automated Train Station].

Feel free to explore the rest of the thread and you'll see that Rotterdam port should have a large freight infrastructure to move all those cargoes (TEUs, Coal, Petrochemicals, Refined Petroleum, etc.) throughout Europe.
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Old April 27th, 2006, 07:14 AM   #83
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Ok, that works too!
I will link some related pics of Rotterdam rail yards for everyone to see here, thanks!
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Old April 27th, 2006, 08:07 PM   #84
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Rotterdam is not as big in railtransport as some of the other European harbours. This is mostly beacause of the river Rhine which provides a lock-free inland route to far into Germany. Also the Dutch railnet is heavily used by passenger trains, the get priority over freight trains. Kijfhoek yard, the main (only) shunting yard of the Netherlands has only got a capacity of 2.800 wagons per day.

In 2003 only 9,5% of containers from/to Rotterdam were transported by rail, (road: 59,2, inland shipping: 31,3), Rail was the only modality that grew. I don't have precise statistics for other goods, but with bulk goods (Coal & Ore) shipping is a lot bigger than rail. Oil is mostly transported by pipeline, petrochemical products by road.

But their is good news, next year (after years of delays) the new Betuweroute freight-only line will be opened, running from Kijfhoek to the German Boarder. Freight trains can run without hinder from passenger trains to Emmerich in Germany.
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Old April 28th, 2006, 02:31 AM   #85
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Rotterdam is not as big in railtransport as some of the other European harbours. This is mostly beacause of the river Rhine which provides a lock-free inland route to far into Germany. Also the Dutch railnet is heavily used by passenger trains, the get priority over freight trains. Kijfhoek yard, the main (only) shunting yard of the Netherlands has only got a capacity of 2.800 wagons per day.

In 2003 only 9,5% of containers from/to Rotterdam were transported by rail, (road: 59,2, inland shipping: 31,3), Rail was the only modality that grew. I don't have precise statistics for other goods, but with bulk goods (Coal & Ore) shipping is a lot bigger than rail. Oil is mostly transported by pipeline, petrochemical products by road.

But their is good news, next year (after years of delays) the new Betuweroute freight-only line will be opened, running from Kijfhoek to the German Boarder. Freight trains can run without hinder from passenger trains to Emmerich in Germany.
Thanks momochan for explaining Rotterdam rail infrastructure. I would say that Chicago is the other way around, as its passenger rail based on most of already establish freight rail network and most of them have been sharing the same routes/yard/tracks for so long and have been creating so much inefficiency, which causing our Chicago transportation officials to come up ways to seperate our freight away from passenger. If you have read some of the articles posted earlier by me, you should know that the freight traffic in Chicago is already reached bottleneck all over the city and the traffics are expecting to double within next few years. We also have some good news and one of them being the proposal of CREATE program(also posted earlier) which update some yards with better traffic flow technologies...anyway, it is necessary and not require for chicago to transform some of its yards to handle the projected traffic.

Eventho, Rotterdam isn't as big in freight rail, but I still love to see some of its largest rail yard...in this case like other smaller cities like Hamburg, Jinang, and North Pallete!
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Old April 28th, 2006, 09:23 AM   #86
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The Nation's Busiest Rail Hub

Only gateway where all six Class-One North American railroads can interchange traffic

50% of U.S. rail freight passes through Chicago's rail yards

500 freight trains and 37,500 carloads of rail freight leave Chicago each day
(i.e., 2.5+ million tons)

Chicago is the world's largest intermodal container handler after Hong Kong and Singapore

Intermodal Container Handler


Location Twenty-foot Equivalent Units (2001)
Hong Kong 17,800,000
Singapore 15,520,000
Chicago 12,329,000
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Old April 28th, 2006, 09:49 AM   #87
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The Nation's Busiest Rail Hub

Only gateway where all six Class-One North American railroads can interchange traffic

50% of U.S. rail freight passes through Chicago's rail yards

500 freight trains and 37,500 carloads of rail freight leave Chicago each day
(i.e., 2.5+ million tons)

Chicago is the world's largest intermodal container handler after Hong Kong and Singapore

Intermodal Container Handler


Location Twenty-foot Equivalent Units (2001)
Hong Kong 17,800,000
Singapore 15,520,000
Chicago 12,329,000
Yep, I read this before as which city is the largest intermodal container hub in the world. For HK being one of the busiest port, it is without a doubt that its intermodal is #1. Don't forget, eventho Chicago is inland only serving the lake and conjuction with mississippi river, it still handle lots of intermodal due to our heavy rail traffic!
BTW, intermodal is just one part of freight industry!

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Old May 8th, 2006, 02:32 PM   #88
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Twin stack container trains

Could anybody tell me whether twin stack container trains also run on electric locomotives anywhere?
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Yes, in China. I just found a link to this pictures a while back. I can't see a locomotive but they are under a wire.



found here:
http://locopage.fotopic.net/
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Old May 9th, 2006, 07:11 AM   #90
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Nice pictures. But still does not show whether it is an electric loco or a diesel loco under wire.
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Yes, in China. I just found a link to this pictures a while back. I can't see a locomotive but they are under a wire.



found here:
http://locopage.fotopic.net/
Nice pics but that's more of a container train.
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Old May 9th, 2006, 12:17 PM   #92
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Double stack containers in largest ports?

does the railway carry double stack containers trains to & from the largest container ports, like HK, Singapore, Busan, Shanghai ...
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does the railway carry double stack containers trains to & from the largest container ports, like HK, Singapore, Busan, Shanghai ...
For HK, no!
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The double stack container train. Note the diesel AC400CW locomotive also running between the stacks ...

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The double stack container train in Beijing, China. Note the diesel AC400CW locomotive also running between the stacks ...
Oh yean and I believe the train came from Canada!
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Old May 9th, 2006, 01:18 PM   #96
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the train is in canada.
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Without out doubt Chicago is the rail-freight capital of North America, and also a fierce bottleneck, because of it's lack of a central marshalling yard. Transit times for east <-> west traffic are pretty bad.

To name Europe's freight capital is difficult because the European railwork is ana malgation of national rail networks. Hamburg surely is a major freight node (Rottrdam was layed out for truck traffic, only now the plans for an "iron Rhine" freight line to Gemrany to compete with Hamburg are in the stage of realisation), but I don't think Europe has one distinct freight hub like the US have with Chicago.
Large marshalling yards exist in a lot of places, but with point to point traffic gaining importance, their role is dereasing.
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A yard in Milan (a little part of it )

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Is Zhengzhou an industrial city? It does look like the one in Beijin! Nice find null!
Zhengzhou is an important rail center for northern China--kind of like Chicago, I think, but more of a crossroads than a destination. When I traveled in China a few years ago, I had to go to Zhengzhou to find an open seat on a train to Urumqi, in Xinjiang Province. Zhengzhou's new railstation is huge, and there were thousands of people camped outside waiting for their trains. Amazing sight!
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Double decker container trains in China

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Yes, in China. I just found a link to this pictures a while back. I can't see a locomotive but they are under a wire.



found here:
http://locopage.fotopic.net/
Looks more like 4'3" (1.3 m) half-height containers (used for heavy loads), one on top another. Compare with this:



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