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Old April 22nd, 2007, 06:53 PM   #341
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Busiest Rail-stations

Just to re-iterate the busiest Train Station in the UK and possibly Europe is Clapham Junction Station (as anyone who has been to or is from London will know) with about 2,000 trains daily.
Europe not. It was mentioned before that Zurich Hauptbahnhof has 2'915 passenger train departures per day. 884 long distance trains and 2'031 regional trains (S-Bahn).

Here you see how the departure timetable looks like:
http://fahrplan.sbb.ch/bin/bhftafel.exe/en?
...enter station: Zurich HB, travel with: only trains

Switzerland is a comparably small country with comparably small cities, but absolutely nuts about public transportation and especially trains.

Some numbers to back that: from the number of passengers/day on the biggest train station of some Swiss cities and the number of inhabitants I calculated a multiplicator. Multiplicator = 0.5 for example means that half of the city population is travelling from/to this particular train station every day.

Zurich HB:
passengers/day: 360'000
inhabitants: 348'000
multiplicator: 1.03

Bern:
passengers/day: 150'000
inhabitants: 122'000
multiplicator: 1.23

Basle SBB:
passengers/day: 125'000
inhabitants: 164'000
multiplicator: 0.76

Winterthur:
passengers/day: 120'000
inhabitants: 94'000
multiplicator: 1.28

Olten:
passengers/day: 86'000
inhabitants: 17'000
multiplicator: 5.06

Lausanne:
passengers/day: 75'000
inhabitants: 117'000
multiplicator: 0.64

Geneva Cornavin:
passengers/day: 73'000
inhabitants: 179'000
multiplicator: 0.41

Lucerne:
passengers/day: 60'000
inhabitants: 58'000
multiplicator: 1.03

How is it possible that a lot of train stations have a multiplicator bigger than 1.0?

There are several factors:
- number of inhabitants counts only the city, together with the agglo it's in some cases a multiple
- tourists & business travellers: Switzerland is a tourism country and 50% of products are exported/imported, respectively
- passengers who transfer at the station from one train to another one (especially important for Olten!)
- I guess that commuters are probably counted twice as they arrive in the morning and leave in the evening

On the other hand, above-mentioned cities have up to 13 train stations and a good tram/bus network, so most people use trains and public transportation without entering/leaving at the biggest train station usually.

Anyway, it's still a lot of traffic for such kind of relatively small cities. The trains have to move extremely efficiently, especially in Zurich - they are never on the platform for longer than a few minutes (except some night trains where passengers need more time to board), even though most tracks are dead-end.

So, on the public transportation network you get the feel of a pretty busy city whereas on the roads the traffic jams are quite limited. One of the reasons for this is not only that public transportation is supported a lot, but also in some cities actually individual transportation is disadvantaged to a certain extent by intentionally limiting the number of parking spaces in the city center for example.

It's kind of a hard-core therapy:

get on the nerves of car drivers who don't find a parking space -> they give up and start using public transport -> they discover that public transport is actually great and stay with it! -> everybody wins (less noise and polution)

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Old April 25th, 2007, 12:19 AM   #342
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This terminal will be build in 2008 completed in 2013
Location: Utrecht (the Netherlands).
More than 100 million passengers a Year.









http://www.utrecht.nl/images/OGU/pos/clips/FilmOVT.mpg
Movie of the station

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=419595
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Old April 25th, 2007, 02:21 PM   #343
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ANTWERPEN CENTRAAL STATION
4-level megastation, finished in 2008











Future second entrance (some 100m down the tracks)


Level -2 is already open:


































(totally finished in 2008, level -1 will be shoppingcenter)

(pics from the Belgian forum)

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Old April 25th, 2007, 06:24 PM   #344
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Damn,.. what a big Terminal. It looks almost like a airport
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Old April 25th, 2007, 07:21 PM   #345
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How many pasengers a year for Utrecht?

1 million? 10 million? 100 million?

Some nations use separators differently ... here the last three numbers would be represented

1,000,000
10,000,000
100,000,000

... I'm sure you understand. But I have seen things done differently in european/russian postings. Could you clarify?

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Noting the number of passenger statistics (espcially for Switzerland), I decided to go back and have a look at the last "platform list" on this thread ... which I turned into a spread-sheet. I'll just post the "city summary" now. the figures in red seem to be out of whack with the data provided ...

Cities with the most "Terminal Platforms"



I thought if I got this stuff into a spreadsheet, I could maintain it much easier ... and add columns for train movements per day, passengers per day, etc.!

I acknowledge there were obviously stations missing from the data, particularly Rome, Beijing, Shanghai, etc., as some of you subsequently pointed out, and no doubt Mumbai should be there too!

Also there has been considerable debate over just how many platforms sundry stations had. Anyway, now it's easier to manage.

Apologies for any anglicizations, abbreviations or mis-spellings ...

The data these figures came from came from this thread, last December.

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Old April 26th, 2007, 12:40 AM   #346
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Utrecht Public Transport Terminal



The Utrecht Public Transport Terminal will in the future be the hub of the High-Quality Public transport system in the centre of the city. The Public Transport Terminal must in 2020 be able to handle 360,000 passengers per day.

The current building of Utrecht Central has a capacity of 35 million passengers per year. At this moment the station already handles some 55 million travellers per year. That number will be doubled in the coming years to some 100 million travellers per year. The current building cannot handle these numbers. Neither does the station have a main entrance on the Jaarbeurs side of the station.

The Dutch government is responsible for the railway net, and the basic stations in the Netherlands. On behalf of the Dutch government, ProRail builds stations in the Netherlands. The city of Utrecht is responsible for the local and regional bus and tram transport. During the design process so far, the Dutch government and local authorities have opted for an integral station complex that manages the handling and transfers for train, tram, local, regional and international buses within one building.

The new layout divides the buses between two new bus platforms, which are located on the east and west sides, parallel to and at the same height as the railway platforms. The buses will be divided according to the direction they are going: eastern destinations (local, regional or international) will therefore leave from the eastern platform. The tram will also move to the west side of the station. A spacious light hall, with an undulating roof construction, will cover the train, tram and bus platforms. The shops in the hall will be located in a long strip along the north side of the hall, within glass walls. The south side of the hall will have one long, glass wall, with a view of the rail tracks.

The construction of the new Public Transport Terminal is expected to start in 2006 and will be completed in 2010. Financing will be done from the so-called MIT funds of the Dutch government: approximately 250 million euros.
Movie of the old situation.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wuPIA-IUCxI



The old terminal now Whit 55 million passengers a year.



The new

http://www.utrecht.nl/smartsite.dws?id=70977

In English

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Old April 26th, 2007, 12:45 AM   #347
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Thanks ... so it's 100,000,000 passengers per year.
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Old April 26th, 2007, 09:23 AM   #348
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Brillaint work on the excel spreadsheet Yardmaster. I'm glad this thread hasn't become forgotten - we all put in a large amount of work here. Maybe we should extend the info a bit and publish a book together ;O)
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Old April 26th, 2007, 07:34 PM   #349
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A Japanese station

Japanese railways
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=194709

Ueno




Shinagawa




Tokyo




Kyoto




Sapporo




Shinjuku




Hakata


Osaka




Kobe




Nagoya




Kanazawa

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Old April 27th, 2007, 03:53 AM   #350
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Japanese stations are huge and impressive!
I specially remember Kyoto station.
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Old May 7th, 2007, 04:25 AM   #351
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You can add these 3 terminal stations to the list for Chicago. They are all commuter rail stations originating from the north, west and south.



Ogilvie Transportation Center: 16






LaSalle 8



Randolph 12



That's another 36 platforms to add to your Chicago list.
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Old May 9th, 2007, 10:18 AM   #352
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@Chicagoago, thanks for those great photos and the information!

@[email protected], brilliant work with the spreadsheet. Do you still maintain the list of each station and platform numbers?
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Old May 9th, 2007, 10:34 AM   #353
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1st to live on only Suica for

It is Suica. to be usable to a private railroad, a taxi, a bus, a subway, shopping,
a vending machine, a hotel, the key to house now
It is sold 20,030,000 pieces by April 9, 2007. A use spreads, too.

It is an experiment for one day whether you can live without having a wallet.

It is obtained with a certain vending machine beside a wicket obtaining Suica. A limit is to 20,000 yen.

Even a storehouse mobile telephone in Suica can go.

How when I try to let a watermelon touch it carelessly here? I will try to test it.
(Pronunciation is different, but calls watermelon suika in Japan)

There was it and opened.

I stuck Suica on a watermelon.

I use Suica in a bookstore

I carry a watermelon with me at hand, and ,

enters it breezily.

A cash register has a reading caliber of Suica in this way. I make a sound with "ピピッ", and payment is finished when I let a card touch here after operation of salesclerk. A payment amount of money is shown a reading caliber

In addition, I buy juice with a vending machine in a home and buy medicine and can buy glasses.

I tried to look for the shop which handled clothes. This one is a shop of womens.
By the way, it is this shirt 2,940 yen

A shop with Suica has many restaurants.

"NEWYORK GRAND KITCHEN" of "atto- Rais Shinagawa" 2F. I purchase bread in "ANDERSEN" of baker.


I tried to eat in a shop to call Wanofu of an upper photograph.

It is Japanese cow miso stew, rice and a height charge account of vegetables. I hang stew here and will eat.
After all payment is Suica.
It is 2,280 yen.

And this one is a hotel to be able to stay at in Suica. A single-breasted suit is night 8,800 yen. I write an address name and pay in Suica.

It is a room of a hotel of a business type. I make myself at home while reading sweet potato, 180 yen
that I bought and "H which thought whether you die" in Shinagawa Station "ANDERSEN".


The end

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thanks Chicagoago for the map and the info.

We did limit terminals to more than 10 platforms, but I guess since La Salle is part of a much larger total ...

I can't find "Randolph" on the map. Is it Miillenium?
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@Chicagoago, thanks for those great photos and the information!

@[email protected], brilliant work with the spreadsheet. Do you still maintain the list of each station and platform numbers?
I know nothing about [email protected] ....
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thanks Chicagoago for the map and the info.

We did limit terminals to more than 10 platforms, but I guess since La Salle is part of a much larger total ...

I can't find "Randolph" on the map. Is it Miillenium?

Yeah, sorry. It use to be Randolph after the street, but they re-named it Millenium after they built Millenium Park and then rebuilt the entire train station as well.
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You can add these 3 terminal stations to the list for Chicago. They are all commuter rail stations originating from the north, west and south.


Ogilvie Transportation Center: 16





question:why is there chinese on the ad?
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Old May 12th, 2007, 05:53 PM   #358
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Not sure, I work in that building and they're always changing that sign. I think it moves, so you might just be seeing one part of the ad. There's a lot about O'hare flights, etc. It might be an American Airlines ad about non-stop flights from Chicago to Shanghi.

The metro area has well over 450,000 people of Asian decent, but this certainly isn't a large enough % to warrent that entire billboard.

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Old May 12th, 2007, 06:40 PM   #359
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question:why is there chinese on the ad?
It's Japanese, it reads "Direct flight to Nagoya"
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i think guangzhou should hav a big chance, in the public holiday in a few days, it moved out 30million passengers.....so the whole yr would be like at least afew hundred millons, as china carry a quarter of the worlds passenger freight last yr
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