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Old February 9th, 2009, 01:55 PM   #601
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Updated list:

Largest Stations:

30 platforms or more (12)

53: New York Grand Central
48: Paris Nord
39: München Hauptbahnhof
38: Paris Saint Lazare
36: London Waterloo
36: Paris Est
36: Paris Montparnasse
33: Osaka/Umeda (Osaka)
33: Tokyo Shinjuku
32: Frankfurt Hauptbahnhof
30: Chicago Union Station
30: Tokyo Station

25-29 Platforms (12 Stations)

29: Milano Porta Romana
29: Moscow Leningradskiy / Yaroslavskiy and Kalanchevskaya
29: Paris Austerlitz
28: Buenos Aires Retiro
27: Madrid Atocha
26: Leipzig Hbf (Germany)
26: London Kings Cross/St.Pancras
26: Paris Lyon
26: Tokyo Ikebukuro
26: Zürich Hauptbahnhof
25: Sydney Central
25: Tokyo Ueno

20-25 Platforms (17 Stations):

24: Beijing South
24: Cape Town (South Africa)
24: Kyoto
24: London Euston
24: Madrid Chamartín
24: Milano Stazione Centrale
24: Osaka Tennoji
23: Calcutta Howrah
23: London Victoria
22: Brussels South
22: London Liverpool Street
22: Omiya (Saitama)
22: Washington DC Union Station
21: New York Penn Station
21: Tokyo Shinagawa
20: Buenos Aires Constitucion
20: London Paddington
20: Milano Porta Garibaldi

15-19 Platforms (36 Stations)

19: Budapest Nyugati Pályaudvar (Hungary)
19: Helsinki Central
19: London Bridge (London)
19: Lyon Perrache
19: Oslo Central
19: Stuttgart Hauptbahnhof
18: Basel SBB & Basel SNCF
18: Beijing West
18: Edinburgh Waverley (Scotland, UK)
18: Marseilles Saint Charles (France)
17: Buenos Aires Once
17: Dortmund Hbf (Germany)
17: Hoboken Terminal (NJ/USA)
17: Leeds City (UK)
17: Moscow Kazanskiy
17: Napoli Centrale (Italy)
17: Shin-Osaka (Osaka)
17: Yokohama
16: Bern Central
16: Calcutta Sealdah
16: Dresden Hauptbahnhof
16: Durban (South Africa)
16: Düsseldorf Hbf (Germany)
16: Glasgow Central (Scotland, UK)
16: Hamburg Hauptbahnhof
16: Lille Flandres
16: London Charing Cross/Embankment
15: London Stratford
16: New Delhi
16: New York Atlantic Terminal
16: Ogilvie (Chicago)
16: Sendai
15: Brussels Schaerbeek (Belgium)
15: Melbourne Southern Cross
15: Moscow Kurskiy
15: Porto Campanhã (Portugal)
15: Rotterdam Centraal (Netherlands)

10-14 Platforms (62 Stations)

14: Antwerpen Centraal Station (Belgium)
14: Barcelona Estacio de França (Spain)
14: Beijing Central
14: Berlin Lehrter Hauptbahnhof
14: Chiba
14: Karlsruhe Hauptbahnhof (Germany)
14: Luzern (terminal)
14: Manchester Piccadilly
14: Gare Centrale de Montréal (Canada)
14: München Ostbahnhof
14: Odawara (Japan)
14: Philadelphia 30th Street Station (PA/US)
14: Tokyo Kita-senju
14: Tokyo Shibuya
14: Tokyo Shimbashi
14: Utrecht Centraal (Netherlands)
14: Toronto Union Station (Canada)
13: Greco-Bicocca (Milan)
13: Flinders Street Station (Melbourne)
13: Amsterdam Centraal
13: Essen Hbf (Germany)
13: Halle (Saale) Hbf (Germany)
13: Budapest Keleti Pályaudvar (Hungary)
12: Barcelona Sants (Spain)
12: Birmingham New Street (UK)
12: Brussels North
12: Budapest Déli Pályaudvar (Hungary)
12: Chicago Millenium
12: Den Haag Centraal
12: Duisburg Hbf (Germany)
12: Hamburg-Altona (Germany)
12: Lyon Part Dieu (France)
12: Moscow Kievskiy
12: Nagoya Kanayama (Japan)
12: Newcastle (UK)
12: Reading (UK)
12: Seville Santa Justa (Spain)
12: Yokohama Ofuna
11: Beijing North
11: Berlin Ostbahnhof
11: Cape Town Bellville (South-Africa)
11: Darmstadt Hbf (Germany)
11: Frankfurt Südbahnhof
11: Köln Hbf
11: Milano Porta Genova
11: Moscow Paveletskiy
11: Moscow Belarusskiy
11: Nürnberg Hbf
11: Secunderabad (India)
10: Amsterdam Sloterdijk
10: Antwerpen Berchem (Belgium)
10: Bangalore (India)
10: Berlin Nordkreuz/Gesundbrunnen
10: Brisbane Roma St
10: Buenos Aires Federico Lacroze
10: Köln Messe/Deutz
10: London Moorgate
10: Ludwigshafen (Rhein) Hbf (Germany)
10: Madrid Principe Pío
10: Milano Cadorna F.N.M.
10: Olten (Switerland)
10: Tokyo Iidabashi

City Totals for Main Terminii

213: Paris (France)
202: London (UK)
190: Tokyo (Japan)
97: Milan (Italy)
95: Moscow (Russia)
89: New York (USA)
75: Buenos Aires (Argentina)
74: Osaka (Japan)
67: Beijing (China)
61: Madrid (Spain)
58: Chicago (USA)
53: Munich (Germany)
49: Brussels (Belgium)
44: Budapest (Hungary)
43: Frankfurt (Germany)
43: Nagoya (Japan)
39: Calcutta (Kolkutta) (India)
35: Berlin (Germany)
35: Cape Town (South Africa)
31: Lyon (France)
29: Yokohama (Japan)
28: Barcelona (Spain)
28: Hamburg (Germany)
28: Melbourne (Australia)
26: Leipzig (Germany)
26: Zürich (Switzerland)
25: Glasgow (Scotland, UK)
25: Sydney (Australia)
24: Antwerpen (Belgium)
23: Amsterdam (Netherlands)
22: Washington DC (USA)
21: Köln (Cologne) (Germany)
19: Helsinki (Finland)
19: Oslo (Norway)
19: Stuttgart (Germany)
18: Basel (Switzerland)
18: Edinburgh (Scotland, UK)
18: Marseilles (France)
17: Dortmund (Germany)
17: Hoboken (NJ/USA)
17: Leeds (UK)
17: Napoli (Italy)
16: Bern (Switzerland)
16: Dresden (Germany)
16: Durban (South Africa)
16: Düsseldorf (Germany)
16: Lille (France)
16: New Delhi (India)
15: Porto (Portugal)
15: Rotterdam (Netherlands)
14: Chiba (Japan)
14: Karlsruhe (Germany)
14: Luzern (Switzerland)
14: Manchester (UK)
14: Montréal (Canada)
14: Odawara (Japan)
14: Toronto (Canada)
14: Utrecht (Netherlands)
13: Essen (Germany)
13: Halle (Germany)
12: Birmingham (UK)
12: Den Haag (The Hague) (Netherlands)
12: Duisburg (Germany)
12: Nagoya (Japan)
12: Newcastle (UK)
12: Reading (UK)
12: Seville (Spain)
12: Yokohama (Japan)
11: Darmstadt (Germany)
11: Nürnberg (Nurenberg)
11: Secunderabad (India)
10: Bangalore (India)
10: Brisbane (Australia)
10: Ludwigshafen (Germany)
10: Olten (Switzerland)

Notes:
- Newark station not included - station too small without PATH/Subway)
- Hoboken station not included - how many platforms does it have exactly?)
- New Delhi included with 16 platforms - how many platforms does it have exactly? What is this with Old Delhi station?
- Barcelona Sants was twice on the list - kept entry with 12 platforms, removed entry with 14 platforms. But what is the correct number?
- Subtracted subway platforms from NY Penn Station.

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Old February 9th, 2009, 02:20 PM   #602
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So you're not including the 2 additional platforms at Manchester Piccadilly? The total would be 16 platforms for Piccadilly - 12 bay platforms, 2 through platforms (13 & 14) and 2 platforms below the mainline station for the Metrolink.
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Old February 9th, 2009, 02:37 PM   #603
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Even though it partly runs on former railway lines, it really is a tram network, right? Those are not included for any station - although I don't know how the Japanese numbers were counted.

To include tram and subway platforms, I think that most of the stations would have to be updated. For example:
Amsterdam Centraal +2 subway +9 tram
Amsterdam Sloterdijk +2 subway +1 tram
Den Haag Centraal +4 tram
Rotterdam Centraal +2 subway +4 tram
Duisburg Hbf +4 subway
Essen Hbf +4 subway
Bochum Hbf +6 subway (not included now, but would be with 6+8 = 14 total)
Dortmund Hbf +2 subway
...
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Old February 9th, 2009, 03:35 PM   #604
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I was at New Delhi Station three weeks back. New Delhi has the following at present:

16 mainline platform tracks
2 Metro platform tracks on Metro Line 2

for a total of 18.

I will try to find out about Delhi Junction. It has somewhere between 16 and 20 platform tracks. But unfortunately I have not been there in a long time and meanwhile all the terminating Meter Gauge has been converted to Broad Gauge, and I don't know what that has done to platform count.

I checked Hoboken yesterday by actually going there. Here is what it has:

17 platform tracks for NJT
3 platform tracks for NJT HBLRT

for a total of 20.

Oh and also.... Grand Central should be 53, since one track for the Grand Central shuttle has been undercounted. In the original count they counted 2 tracks for the shuttle. Actually it has 3 platform tracks. It ihas:

44 MNRR
4 NYCTA lines 4,5,6
2 NYCTA line 7
3 NYCTA line S

53 Total

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Old February 9th, 2009, 03:50 PM   #605
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Another one from the US that is curiously missing from the list is the magnificent Union Station at Washington DC. Here is what I recall, but will check when I go there in 6 weeks:

14 upper level terminating tracks used by MARC and Amtrak
8 lower level through tracks used by Amtrak and VRE
2 WMATA Metro tracks on the Red Line

for a total of 24.

These numbers are consistent with what is reported in the Wikipedia article on this station too.
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Old February 10th, 2009, 09:13 PM   #606
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The Chennai Central has 14 platforms as of now, and there are plans to expand it.
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Old February 11th, 2009, 06:44 AM   #607
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So you're not including the 2 additional platforms at Manchester Piccadilly? The total would be 16 platforms for Piccadilly - 12 bay platforms, 2 through platforms (13 & 14) and 2 platforms below the mainline station for the Metrolink.
The "standard" that we are trying t oachieve is just to count the "railway" usage paltforms ... leaving metro/tram/locals/etc out of the picture as much as possible.

Aditionally the account on city totals is just about those same large cities ...



On the other hand I propose two or three aditional listings.

a) GRAND city TOTAL platforms(and maiby total tracks) at termini stations ??? aditional info on closed/not used platforms and/or multiple shared/sectorized platforms ???

b) TOTAL platforms at any given city ??? no matter in what station they might be (leaving only tram-like platforms out?) ... that would be fun to count ... and would make a great ranking.

c) total NO platforms embark/disembark places in a city ???
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Old February 11th, 2009, 11:11 AM   #608
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The Chennai Central has 14 platforms as of now, and there are plans to expand it.
may be U missed the PF 2A, It's a small PF using for Trains like "Rajdhanis"...

Chennai Central - 12 for non-suburban (11+2A) & 3 for suburban, Total 15 PFs
Chennai Central expansion plan included 10-12 more new platforms.

Chennai Egmore -8 for non-suburban & 2 for suburban. Total 10 PFs &

Another Station in Chennai City, "Tambaram" with 8 PFs (suburban and non-suburban)
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Old February 12th, 2009, 08:10 PM   #609
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may be U missed the PF 2A, It's a small PF using for Trains like "Rajdhanis"...

Chennai Central - 12 for non-suburban (11+2A) & 3 for suburban, Total 15 PFs
Chennai Central expansion plan included 10-12 more new platforms.

Chennai Egmore -8 for non-suburban & 2 for suburban. Total 10 PFs &

Another Station in Chennai City, "Tambaram" with 8 PFs (suburban and non-suburban)
Yea I got the info from wikipedia so it han't been updated for a while.
Completely forgot about the Egmore however.
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Old February 13th, 2009, 12:32 PM   #610
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Vienna's Südbahnhof has 20 platforms and it is the biggest terminal station in Austria.
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Old February 13th, 2009, 04:25 PM   #611
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Busiest Passenger Rail Terminals = platforms ?
World's Largest = platforms ?
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Old February 13th, 2009, 06:51 PM   #612
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Busiest Passenger Rail Terminals = platforms ?
World's Largest = platforms ?
No, most of the largest stations are sack stations with limited capacity, there are many smaller stations that handle more trains and more passengers. A through track if I'm not remembering incorrectly has quadruple the capacity of a sack track.

The expansion of the Madrid Atocha long distance station will only bring 4 new through tracks yet they will dubble the capacity of the station that already has 15 sack tracks.
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I think I understand japanese001's point here. It seems that this thread has progressed further and further away from the intended purpose. World's largest and busiest terminal does not necessarily equal to the station with the most number of platforms. I mean, if Kim Jong Il is "feeling ambitious" today and decides to build a railway terminal with 100 platforms in Pyongyang, is that gonna be the world's largest and busiest terminal? Obviously not, right?

I honestly think that this topic should be split into 4 different ones, just like how the list of skyscrapers is split into 4 different categories.

The current one will be one of them, but renamed to "World's Largest Rail Terminal in terms of Platforms". Second can be "World's Largest Rail Terminal in terms of Station Complex Area". Third could be "World's Busiest Rail Terminal in terms of Passenger Traffic". The last one can be "World's Busiest Rail Terminal in terms of Arriving and Departing Trains". This is strictly for passenger trains. However, similar topics can be made regarding freight trains.

In this way, research data and information can be arranged in a more organized manner and I'm sure debates would be a lot more interesting and to the point with this kind of arrangement.
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No, most of the largest stations are sack stations with limited capacity, there are many smaller stations that handle more trains and more passengers. A through track if I'm not remembering incorrectly has quadruple the capacity of a sack track.
A sack station? Are you sure that this is an English term?
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Busiest Passenger Rail Terminals = platforms ?
World's Largest = platforms ?
My view of this is that the busiest station is number of passengers/year and the largest is just the number of tracks in the station.


To add the 2 biggest stations in Sweden to this list.

Stockholm central station - 19 tracks + 6 subway tracks.

Gothenburg central Station - 16 tracks + a number of tram lines.
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I think I understand japanese001's point here. It seems that this thread has progressed further and further away from the intended purpose.
Actually, the very first sentence in this thread is this:

"I'd like to know which railway terminus has the most platforms, and which city has the greatest aggregate number of platforms at its railway terminii."

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A sack station? Are you sure that this is an English term?
It's not... "sacbahnhof" is very much a German term and there isn't really an equivalent in (British) English. A "terminus station" is about an equivalent. Platforms where the track comes to a buffer stop rather than running through are "bay platforms".
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The "standard" that we are trying t oachieve is just to count the "railway" usage paltforms ... leaving metro/tram/locals/etc out of the picture as much as possible.
If that is the case then why are all the platforms for Underground in London and Subways in New York and Metro and RER in Paris apparently being counted with the respective main-line stations associated with them?

Since I cannot figure out what rules are being followed, I am reporting just the details and letting someone else figure out what rules are being followed and include appropriate information in the list.
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Old February 16th, 2009, 01:59 PM   #619
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More info and pix, Beijing South

The glass ceiling is outfitted with 3,246 solar panels to generate electricity. The structure spreads out like a ray or trilobite and covers 320,000 sq meters (3,444,450 sq. feet), more than the Beijing National Stadium's 258,000 m2. Its 24 platforms have the capacity to dispatch 30,000 passengers per hour or 241,920,000 a year. The 251,000 m2 (2,750,000 sq. ft) waiting area can accommodate 10,000 passengers.

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