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Old February 17th, 2009, 01:54 AM   #621
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If that is the case then why are all the platforms for Underground in London and Subways in New York and Metro and RER in Paris apparently being counted with the respective main-line stations associated with them?
It's quite simple; They aren't.
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Old February 17th, 2009, 04:37 AM   #622
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It's quite simple; They aren't.
Not really that simple.

At least in the case of New York Penn Station and Grand Central they certainly are. Whatever the rule is is not being applied uniformly is all I can say from the numbers presented in the last table.

For example NY Penn Station has the following:

21 Amtrak, LIRR and NJT mainline tracks (4 terminating, rest through)
4 NYCTA A,C,E tracks at 34th St./8th Ave station
4 NYCTA 1,2,3 tracks at 34th St./7th Ave Station

The number listed in the list is 29. Reach your own conclusions.
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Old February 18th, 2009, 12:16 AM   #623
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Not really that simple.

At least in the case of New York Penn Station and Grand Central they certainly are. Whatever the rule is is not being applied uniformly is all I can say from the numbers presented in the last table.

For example NY Penn Station has the following:

21 Amtrak, LIRR and NJT mainline tracks (4 terminating, rest through)
4 NYCTA A,C,E tracks at 34th St./8th Ave station
4 NYCTA 1,2,3 tracks at 34th St./7th Ave Station

The number listed in the list is 29. Reach your own conclusions.
I'll rephrase; they aren't for London.
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Old February 18th, 2009, 12:40 AM   #624
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At least in the case of New York Penn Station and Grand Central they certainly are. Whatever the rule is is not being applied uniformly is all I can say from the numbers presented in the last table.

For example NY Penn Station has the following:

21 Amtrak, LIRR and NJT mainline tracks (4 terminating, rest through)
4 NYCTA A,C,E tracks at 34th St./8th Ave station
4 NYCTA 1,2,3 tracks at 34th St./7th Ave Station

The number listed in the list is 29. Reach your own conclusions.
It seems that I can still edit the list on the previous page, so I updated the entry for Penn Station. Do you incidentally also know the right numbers for Grand Central?
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Old February 18th, 2009, 12:58 AM   #625
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I have a question about Paris Nord. Do TGVs have their own tracks/platforms or they share tracks/platforms with other trains?
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Old February 18th, 2009, 03:57 PM   #626
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I haven't read the entire thread but I don't see Clapham Junction mentioned anywhere.

According to Wikipedia it has 16 platforms and by some measurements is the busiest station in Britain.

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Old February 19th, 2009, 01:05 AM   #627
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I haven't read the entire thread but I don't see Clapham Junction mentioned anywhere.

According to Wikipedia it has 16 platforms and by some meansurements is the busiest station in Britain.
It's the busiest in terms of train movements I think, but not in terms of passengers.
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Old February 19th, 2009, 04:08 PM   #628
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I have a question about Paris Nord. Do TGVs have their own tracks/platforms or they share tracks/platforms with other trains?
Own tracks and platforms for Eurostar (separated from rest of station by fence), Thalys and TGV.
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Old February 19th, 2009, 04:13 PM   #629
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It seems that I can still edit the list on the previous page, so I updated the entry for Penn Station. Do you incidentally also know the right numbers for Grand Central?
Grand Central has the following:

44 MNRR
2 NYCTA Route 7 subway
4 NYCTA Routes 4,5,6 subway
3 NYCTA Route S subway

So I suppose only 44 should be listed.
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Old February 19th, 2009, 04:22 PM   #630
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I heared that there are Two Stations in Delhi, Old Delhi Station and New Delhi Station. One has 18 and other has 12, Dunno exactly
OK, New Delhi used to be 12 until last year. It got 4 more added in '08, so now it has 16. I can vouch for that because my train arrived on platform 16 a month back

So that would indicate that Delhi Junction (which is the official name of Old Delhi station) has 18, which sounds about right. But as I said I have not been there since they took out the Meter Gauge lines, and I don't know how many of those platforms have been replaced by Broad Gauge tracks.

Notwithstanding adding Delhi Junction with 18 would not be too far off the mark. There are larger errors for some stations on the list at present because of erroneous inclusion of subway/Metro etc. lines.
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Old February 19th, 2009, 04:22 PM   #631
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So you're not including the 2 additional platforms at Manchester Piccadilly? The total would be 16 platforms for Piccadilly - 12 bay platforms, 2 through platforms (13 & 14) and 2 platforms below the mainline station for the Metrolink.
One other point on UK and Manchester train stations. On Manchester and other UK stations I'd really look at the passenger numbers that are given out because in the UK you'd a buy a ticket which says London Stations, Leeds Stations, Manchesters Stations, Glasgow Stations etc etc so you can use any station within that area. The 2006 figures for Manchester Piccadilly say 21.23 Million but the year 2007 they read 14.51 Million. Now if you look at Manchesters two other Main stations even through they can't get on the list. Oxford Road and Victoria. Victoria in 2006 reads only 487,000 but for 2007 it reads 5 Million. Its the same for Manchester Oxford Road it reads 625,000 for 2006 and 4.3 Million for 2007. I'd think alot of the figures are the same all around the UK aka incorrect and very inaccurate. They likely know how many people travel into the city but not each station.
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Old February 19th, 2009, 04:25 PM   #632
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Own tracks and platforms for Eurostar (separated from rest of station by fence), Thalys and TGV.
Could someone please provide a breakdown of the platforms at Paris Gare du Nord? Like complete this table:

SNCF:
RER:
RATP:

Just to inform us of all the tracks mainline and otherwise at Nord?

Thx.
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Old February 19th, 2009, 04:35 PM   #633
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I'll rephrase; they aren't for London.
Really?

Earlier in this thread SE9 reported that Waterloo has:

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- Platforms: 31 Overground / 5 Underground

-Lines:
*South West Trains
*Southern
*SouthEastern
*Eurostar
*Bakerloo Line
*Waterloo & City Line
*Jubilee Line
*Northern Line

- Annual Passenger entry and exit only (not including interchanging passengers): 69.131 million Overground/ 68.427 million Underground/ 7.5 Million Eurostar/ 145 million Total
My reading of that is that the underground platforms are for Bakerloo, Jubilee, Waterloo & City and Northern Lines. If that is the case then Waterloo should rightfully be listed with 31 tracks and not 36. Similar situation occurs for the other London terminals as listed by SE9 in that article.

I am just seeking clarification and edification. Thanks for your indulgence.

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Old February 20th, 2009, 08:38 PM   #634
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Old February 20th, 2009, 08:43 PM   #635
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Old February 20th, 2009, 09:01 PM   #636
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Omg, it is even worse than is Seoul
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Old February 21st, 2009, 02:58 AM   #637
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Tokyo Shibuya Station (8 stories)

This map does not include JR, Tokyu Toyoko nor Keio lines.
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Old February 21st, 2009, 05:05 AM   #638
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I really don't see the purpose of those maps; as they are simply not at all clear.

Are they for fire escape routes or simply for passengers to navigate?
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I really don't see the purpose of those maps; as they are simply not at all clear.

Are they for fire escape routes or simply for passengers to navigate?
Escape route?

No those maps depicts the entire Shinjuku and part of Shibuya Station in 3D to show the extent of the station.
For example Shibuya is actually a station eight stories high with train lines going crisscross each ways.
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Having just been to Köln (Cologne) last weekend, one of the stations I stopped on was Bahnhof Köln Messe/Deutz. This is just across the river from the Hauptbahnhof and I believe it qualifies for this list as it seemed to have over 10 stations, and is used as a stop for Köln on the ICE (intercity trains). In fact, the ICE3, the fasted train in Germany stops here from Frankfurt or Düsseldorf. Does anyone know how many stations this actually has? Also, I fear the Köln Hauptbahnhof number of 10 doesn't include the U-bahn. Is this true?
yea, Cologne has 2 more u-bahn(metro) platforms underground, so it should be updated
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