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Old February 21st, 2009, 03:49 PM   #641
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Escape route?

No those maps depicts the entire Shinjuku and part of Shibuya Station in 3D to show the extent of the station.
For example Shibuya is actually a station eight stories high with train lines going crisscross each ways.
Yes, but my point is is that they seem utterly useless at doing that because they are so over complex.

Isn't the whole point of a map to make otherwise complicated things appear clear and simple, making it easy for one to navigate quickly?
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Old February 21st, 2009, 04:22 PM   #642
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Yes, but my point is is that they seem utterly useless at doing that because they are so over complex.

Isn't the whole point of a map to make otherwise complicated things appear clear and simple, making it easy for one to navigate quickly?
Let me ask you this, do you think you can navigate through a station that has 3D multi-layered platforms with a 2D map?
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Old February 21st, 2009, 08:14 PM   #643
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3D map of Zürich HB:
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Old February 21st, 2009, 10:00 PM   #644
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Let me ask you this, do you think you can navigate through a station that has 3D multi-layered platforms with a 2D map?
Where did I say that I thought a 2D map would be a better option?
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Old February 22nd, 2009, 07:27 PM   #645
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yea, Cologne has 2 more u-bahn(metro) platforms underground, so it should be updated
But I was told last week that Metro/U-Bahn/Subway is not supposed to be counted. I am still left wondering what the real rules are.
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Old February 22nd, 2009, 10:28 PM   #646
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They were counted right from the beginning of this thread. If some people are saying they are not counted anymore, they are not the original posters of this thread and since all of the original stats include metro's, their figures won't accurately compare.

My suggestion is to follow the original rules. They worked just fine for the bulk of this discussion.
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Old February 23rd, 2009, 12:18 AM   #647
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Fine. Can then somebody add the following numbers to the platforms?

Amsterdam Centraal: +2 subway, +2 for fast tram line 26 (?)
Amsterdam Sloterdijk: +2 metro
Bochum Hbf: 8 train + 6 stadtbahn
Budapest Déli Pu.: +2 subway
Budapest Keleti Pu.: +2 subway
Budapest Nyugati Pu. +2 subway
Dortmund Hbf: +2 Stadtbahn
Duisburg Hbf: +4 stadtbahn
Düsseldorf Hbf: +4 stadtbahn
Essen Hbf: +4 stadtbahn
Hamburg Hbf: +4 subway
Köln Hbf: +4 stadtbahn (Dom/Hbf and Breslauer Platz/Hbf)
Manchester Picadilly: +2 metrolink
Rotterdam Centraal: +2 metro
Utrecht Centraal: +2 fast tram (?)

Other entries which probably don't include metro/u-bahn/subway are:
- Antwerpen Centraal (premetro stations Astrid and Diamant)
- Brussels North
- Brussels South
- Hannover Hbf
- Hoboken NJ
- Köln Messe/Deutz
- Ludwigshafen Hbf
- München Hbf?
- Newark NJ
- New York Penn Station
- Nürnberg Hbf?
- Porto

And probably quite some more...
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Old February 23rd, 2009, 01:16 AM   #648
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A great deal of those above did include subways in the original posting of the lists. If they don't now it means the latest ones have had some removed. This is how everything goes wrong when one person decides to change the rules in the middle of the game.

I spent quite a bit of time in the beginning of the thread collecting data, and I just don't have the time now to correct all this.
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Old February 23rd, 2009, 02:15 AM   #649
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The number for Hamburg Main Station is given with 16. That is wrong in any case.

Hamburg Main Station has 14 tracks for long distance, regional and S-lines. 2 of those tracks (track 9 and 10) are not accessible by public. That makes 12 platforms of which 4 platforms are exclusively for S-Bahn. Additionally there are 6 metro-platforms below the main station. In the end we have for Hamburg Hauptbahnhof:

20 tracks
18 platforms
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Old February 23rd, 2009, 05:51 AM   #650
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This is going to go on forever!
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Old February 23rd, 2009, 11:29 AM   #651
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A great deal of those above did include subways in the original posting of the lists. If they don't now it means the latest ones have had some removed. This is how everything goes wrong when one person decides to change the rules in the middle of the game.
No.

Except NY Penn Station none of them were in the list.

Edit: It seems that some of them actually were on the list before, but got lost underway. Calcutta/Howrath, for example. That makes this thread is rather pointless.

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Old March 1st, 2009, 08:37 PM   #652
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No.

Except NY Penn Station none of them were in the list.

Edit: It seems that some of them actually were on the list before, but got lost underway. Calcutta/Howrath, for example. That makes this thread is rather pointless.
What's wrong with Calcutta Howrah? It has 23 main line platforms and that is it. In another 5 years or so it might get two platform tracks for the East-West Metro when it goes into service, but that is not today.

New Delhi is the one that could have an issue with Metro platforms. It has 16 mainline and 2 Metro platforms.

New York Penn should have 29 if subway (NYCTA) tracks are included and 21 if not.

There were many others that had subway tracks in their count on the list. Just stating over again and again that they don't does not make it so.
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Old June 9th, 2009, 10:57 AM   #653
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Warsaw Central station was supposed to be upgraded (rebuilt / torn down and raised again - there were many concepts).

Then PKP said it has no money and decided to focus on a smaller scale project - redesigning three toilets at Warsaw Central Station. The winning design here http://pkp.pl/node/2722 (Polish only, but pics available).

The chances they will find funding for that one are scarce.

Still -Warsaw Central station remains a great example of modernism in architecture (design by Arseniusz Romanowicz - http://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arseniusz_Romanowicz)

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http://www.pkp.pl/files/widok%20drzwi.jpg
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and in English:

http://www.railwaymarket.eu/7431/Pol...Bannounced.htm
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Old June 13th, 2009, 09:51 AM   #655
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I am unable to find Rome anywhere in this topic.
Surely the main station "Termini" qualifies as one of the bigger stations of the world with 29 tracks. Underground there are also several metro tracks for line A+B (4 tracks i think?)
In total this would lead to 33 tracks.
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Old June 22nd, 2009, 04:18 PM   #656
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Hong Kong to Build World's Largest Rail Terminus

Hong Kong's Mass Transit Railway has chosen US company AECOM Technology to design the world's largest underground high-speed rail terminus.

The $2bn terminus will connect Hong Kong to the high-speed rail network in mainland China and is expected to be completed by 2015.

The multi-level terminus will extend to an area of over 25 acres with a commercial development above ground.


I wonder what will be the annual volumes of passengers served there.
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Old January 14th, 2010, 01:52 PM   #657
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BELGRADE (still under construction,finnish expect 2011)
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Construction continues....

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Old January 14th, 2010, 03:02 PM   #658
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BELGRADE (still under construction,finnish expect 2011)
It is an ongoing project for more than 30 years. What does the date 2011 refer to?
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Old January 14th, 2010, 04:14 PM   #659
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Heres Hoboken Terminal,all of NJT lines except 2 terminate here , aswell as the PATH Terminal in the basement and Hudson-Bergen Light Rail Terminal is off to the side. They are currently Renovated the Ferry slips , so they can use them again. That should be completed in 2011. There is also 3 bus lanes @ the Hoboken Bus Terminal. The Main Terminal has 20 Tracks , the Light Rail Terminal has 3 Tracks. The PATH terminal has 2 tracks. Its used by 130,000 people a day.

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