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Old April 11th, 2011, 12:07 AM   #701
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Good to see this thread is still alive, & stations are soaring along ....

Getting back to the original substance of this thread here, how many platforms is this?



What you see is all "Platform 8" at Southern Cross Melbourne: 8A, 8B, or 8S.

There is a train waiting at "8B", apparently about 170m from me, which, after I took this photo, a woman who then consulted me scuttled off to in a state of mild panic.

8A- 8B- 8S. Are these three platforms, two, or one? Clearly "8A" is not a long platform, but you can see from the glint on the rails that it operates independently of 8B, where the train is waiting. "8S" (South) is another matter, since, while it is possible to wander from 8S to 8A and 8B without crossing any tracks, 8S actually has a "road" of it's own ( the middle track between 8 & 9 , next on the left). 8S, from the point of view of the track, doesn't really have any relationship to 8A&B at all: except?

A view from the other end: 8S actually extend way past the dark in the background.



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Old April 11th, 2011, 03:35 AM   #702
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Lots of European train stations have different platform sections too, it's quite normal in that part of the world for people to be directed to platform 9B for a train for example. It is still counted as one platform.
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Old April 11th, 2011, 06:52 AM   #703
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Old April 12th, 2011, 11:39 PM   #704
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Lots of European train stations have different platform sections too, it's quite normal in that part of the world for people to be directed to platform 9B for a train for example. It is still counted as one platform.
Fair comment.

In dredging up the start of this thread, however, there seemed to be some confusion between the no. of places where people could stand, & the no. places where trains could simultaneously wait (and independently arrive or depart) in regard to the definition of a platform.
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Old April 14th, 2011, 06:05 AM   #705
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Lots of European train stations have different platform sections too, it's quite normal in that part of the world for people to be directed to platform 9B for a train for example. It is still counted as one platform.
That depends.


8A and 8B are segments of the same platform

8S can be just another segment of that same platform or it can be a completely different platform






Heres an example:

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Entrecampos station in lisboa(portugal)

The main area of the station has 4 tracks with 4 platforms

t1 [p1-p2] t2 t3 [p3-p4] t4

The western area of the station has 8 tracks with 2 platforms

t1 (t5 t6) t2 t3 (t7) [p 3p-p 4p] (t8) t4



In reality platforms 3 and 3p , 4 and 4p are diferent platforms in diferent tracks (separated by a 100km long "enclosed passage")




The "mains" over to the east are t1 t2 t3 t4 , but to the west are t7(pl 3p) , t3 t2 and t1 so it gets a little confusing ...
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Old April 14th, 2011, 12:30 PM   #706
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That depends.


8A and 8B are segments of the same platform

8S can be just another segment of that same platform or it can be a completely different platform






Heres an example:

image hosted on flickr


Entrecampos station in lisboa(portugal)

The main area of the station has 4 tracks with 4 platforms

t1 [p1-p2] t2 t3 [p3-p4] t4

The western area of the station has 8 tracks with 2 platforms

t1 (t5 t6) t2 t3 (t7) [p 3p-p 4p] (t8) t4



In reality platforms 3 and 3p , 4 and 4p are diferent platforms in diferent tracks (separated by a 100km long "enclosed passage")




The "mains" over to the east are t1 t2 t3 t4 , but to the west are t7(pl 3p) , t3 t2 and t1 so it gets a little confusing ...
A little? My brain just exploded


By the way, where does the passage go that it is that long? Is there no train service along it?
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Old April 14th, 2011, 08:48 PM   #707
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It is a bit complicated. Why the "tunnel" in the background?

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Old April 16th, 2011, 08:58 AM   #708
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In reality platforms 3 and 3p , 4 and 4p are diferent platforms in diferent tracks (separated by a 100km long "enclosed passage")
Looks more like 100m to me
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Old June 13th, 2012, 09:45 PM   #709
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According to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Train_station:

Talking only about Europe:

Busiest:

- The Gare du Nord, in Paris, is Europe's busiest railway station by total passenger numbers.
- Clapham Junction, in south London, is Europe's busiest railway station by daily rail traffic (one train every 13 seconds at peak times; one train every 30 seconds at off-peak times).
- Zurich Hauptbahnhof, Switzerland, is Europe's busiest railway terminus by daily rail traffic (Clapham Junction is a through station).

Largest:

- Leipzig Hauptbahnhof in Germany is Europe's largest railway station by floor area (24 platforms and several levels of shopping facilities beneath).
- Berlin Hauptbahnhof is Europe's largest grade-separated and two-level station (6 upper and 8 lower platforms).
- The Gare du Nord, in Paris, is Europe's largest railway station by number of platforms (44 - two not in service).
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Old June 14th, 2012, 09:11 AM   #710
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- Berlin Hauptbahnhof is Europe's largest grade-separated and two-level station (6 upper and 8 lower platforms).
Zürich HBf has 20 street level, and 6 underground tracks. Soon it will have 10 underground tracks, and 16 street level tracks.
However, Antwerpen Centraal has three levels with tracks. AFAIK the only railway station in Europe where you have three sets if mainline platforms above each other. I would say that in this category Antwerpen Centraal is the winner...
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Old June 15th, 2012, 04:16 PM   #711
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These are the 67 of the UK's 2,531 mainline railway stations that had over 5m passenger entries and exits last year (ie not including transfer passengers)

1. London Waterloo 91.75m
2. London Victoria 73.57m
3. London Liverpool St 55.77m
4. London Bridge 51.48m
5. London Charing Cross 37.22m
6. London Euston 34.07m
7. London Paddington 32.20m
8. London Kings Cross 26.25m
9. Glasgow Central 24.95m
10. Birmingham New St 24.69m
11. Leeds 24.49m
12. London St. Pancras 22.03
13. Manchester Piccadilly 21.28m
14. London Cannon St 20.53m
15. East Croydon 20.10m
16. Edinburgh Waverley 19.96m
17. Glasgow Queen St 19.74m
18. Clapham Junction 19.67m
19. Liverpool Central 17.96m
20. Stratford (London) 17.48m
21. London Fenchurch St 16.67m
22. Vauxhall (London) 16.53m
23. Wimbledon 16.22m
24. Brighton 14.49m
25. Reading 14.40m
26. London Marylebone 13.20m
27. Gatwick Airport 13.13m
28. London Blackfriars 12.71m
29. Liverpool Lime St 11.81m
30. Cardiff Central 11.26m
31. Putney (London) 9.94m
32. Bristol Temple Meads 8.41m
33. Surbiton (London) 8.34m
34. Cambridge 8.25m
35. Sheffield 8.05m
36. Guildford 7.81m
37. Highbury & Islington (London) 7.63m
38. Richmond (London) 7.60m
39. Newcastle-upon-Tyne 7.50m
40. Finsbury Park (London) 7.34m
41. Chelmsford 7.34m
43. Woking 7.26m
44. Moorgate (London) 7.19m
45. York 7.17m
46. Lewisham (London) 7.02m
47. Romford 6.82m
48. Waterloo East (London) 6.64m
49. Manchester Oxford Road 6.59m
50. Barking (London) 6.52m
51. Manchester Victoria 6.36m
52. Nottingham 6.29m
53. Ilford 6.29m
54. St. Albans City 6.26m
55. Balham (London) 5.94m
56. Southampton Central 5.80m
57. Oxford 5.80m
58. Sutton 5.77m
59. Bromley South (London) 5.76m
60. Earlsfield (London) 5.41m
61. City Thameslink (London) 5.35m
62. Kingston (London) 5.28m
63. Milton Keynes Central 5.20m
64. Slough 5.17m
65. Coventry 5.16m
66. Twickenham (London) 5.11m
67. Orpington 5.07m
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Old June 15th, 2012, 06:49 PM   #712
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Zürich HBf has 20 street level, and 6 underground tracks. Soon it will have 10 underground tracks, and 16 street level tracks.
However, Antwerpen Centraal has three levels with tracks. AFAIK the only railway station in Europe where you have three sets if mainline platforms above each other. I would say that in this category Antwerpen Centraal is the winner...
It is actually obvious that the rather clumsy description was meant to define the category for the biggest Turmbahnhof rather than the station with track on most levels. And as neither Zürich Hbf nor Antwerpen CS can be described as Turmbahnhof they can't win this category.
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Old June 16th, 2012, 03:45 AM   #713
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Jakarta kota terminal station has 12 platforms as well as tanjung priok terminal station has 8 platforms.

I have been to Kota station and the tanjung priok station was recently reopened after a long time being a refuge for homeless people.



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Old June 16th, 2012, 04:11 AM   #714
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Seoul in Korea also has a number of large terminal station including:

Seoul Station with 15 platforms above ground serving high speed and regional rail, as well as
2 new platforms for airport express and
4 underground platforms for the subway.

Making a total of 21 platforms.

Also Cheongnyangni Station in seould servise regional trains to the northern and easter part of korea.

It is totally under reconstruction but i believe it has 10 above ground platforms and 2 underground platforms as well.

making a total of 12 platforms.

all together for seoul there is a total of 33 platforms.

There are also alot of other stations with more than 10 platforms but these are only intermediate stations along the high speed line not terminal stations
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Old June 16th, 2012, 04:44 AM   #715
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Busan in Korea has:

10 above ground platforms for high speed rail and regional trains as well as 2 underground platforms for the subway
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Old June 16th, 2012, 04:49 AM   #716
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Hualamphong station in Bangkok is the largest station in Bangkok I have caught the train to Chang Mai fromthere before.

It has 14 avove ground platforms as well as 2 platforms to the subway
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Old June 16th, 2012, 05:06 AM   #717
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taipei railway station has:

8 platforms for high speed rail and regional rail as well as 4 platforms for subway.

total 12 platforms
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Old June 16th, 2012, 05:15 AM   #718
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saigon has 10 above ground platforms
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Old June 16th, 2012, 03:50 PM   #719
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I find this "platform" distinction a bit weird. One platform equals one track or two tracks for most people? Cause in Romanian, the platform has 2 tracks each, and you never number platforms, only tracks...
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It is actually obvious that the rather clumsy description was meant to define the category for the biggest Turmbahnhof rather than the station with track on most levels. And as neither Zürich Hbf nor Antwerpen CS can be described as Turmbahnhof they can't win this category.
What's the definition of a "Turmbahnhof" then?
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