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Old November 29th, 2009, 04:30 PM   #1621
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Would it ever? Doesn't sound like a very attractive route for CX.
It's super long haul from HK, and requires stop over in the NA.
Doubt it will be permitted to lay over in California; and Mexico City is questionable as well.
The Brazil-SE Asia market now is probably small enough for CX to stick with codeshare instead.
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Old November 29th, 2009, 05:05 PM   #1622
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I think a very nice route it would be HK-Mumbai-Brazil... in the past VARIG( a brazilian airline company) already did the route Brazil-Johanesburg-Bangkok-Hong Kong,and there is some news in Brazil about new companies from Africa and Asia that maybe arrive next year!
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Old November 29th, 2009, 05:09 PM   #1623
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These are the directly flights between Brazil and Asia today
Seoul(Korean)
Tokyo(JAL)
Beijing(AirChina-resumes 20 december)
TelAviv(ElAl)
Dubai(Emirates)

*Sorry for my English
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Old November 29th, 2009, 05:33 PM   #1624
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These are the directly flights between Brazil and Asia today
Seoul(Korean)
Tokyo(JAL)
Beijing(AirChina-resumes 20 december)
TelAviv(ElAl)
Dubai(Emirates)

*Sorry for my English
Emirates? Is this one through Europe to Brazil or does it go across the Pacific?
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Old November 29th, 2009, 05:41 PM   #1625
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Emirates? Is this one through Europe to Brazil or does it go across the Pacific?
Is through Africa.The route is Sao Paulo-Dubai.
The others routes are
Sao Paulo-Madrid-Beijing
Sao Paulo-NY-Tokyo
Sao Paulo-TelAviv
Sao Paulo-LosAngeles-Seoul
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Old November 30th, 2009, 11:02 AM   #1626
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As far as I know, there are quite a few Brazilian-born Japanese and Peruvian-born Japanese currently living in South America, this is a reason why JAL is able to make their long-haul route between Tokyo and Brazil sustainable or even lucrative.

Since Cathay Pacific is now tapping into mainland China, I think there may be potential demand on this route on a long term basis, but unfortunately, it seems to me that CX only focuses on high yield routes nowadays.

By the way, do you think Varig will resume flying to HK in near future?
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Old November 30th, 2009, 03:25 PM   #1627
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As far as I know, there are quite a few Brazilian-born Japanese and Peruvian-born Japanese currently living in South America, this is a reason why JAL is able to make their long-haul route between Tokyo and Brazil sustainable or even lucrative.

Since Cathay Pacific is now tapping into mainland China, I think there may be potential demand on this route on a long term basis, but unfortunately, it seems to me that CX only focuses on high yield routes nowadays.

By the way, do you think Varig will resume flying to HK in near future?
Ok!Nice explanation...
For me it´s seems really impossible,because VARIG went to bankrupt and another company(GOL) bought VARIG and now the company is more 'modest'.
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Old December 2nd, 2009, 10:25 AM   #1628
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Cathay corporate passenger sales soar to 13-month high
Airline benefits from rebound in global trade, stock markets

1 December 2009
South China Morning Post

Cathay Pacific Airways said it saw a strong rebound in corporate sales last week as reviving global trade and a strong market for initial public share offerings generated more business traffic.

Ticket sales to corporate clients were the highest in 13 months, with each of the airline's top 10 corporate customers recording positive growth, chief executive Tony Tyler said in an internal e-mail. He did not identify the largest clients.

The carrier also registered year-on-year growth in overall bookings, including economy class, last week.

The financial sector, which comprises most of Cathay's top 10 corporate clients, suffered the worst during the economic downturn that began in last year's fourth quarter. This left business and first-class cabins nearly empty following the collapse of Lehman Brothers Holdings.

But since the rebound in stock markets from Wall Street to Shanghai, initial public offerings around the globe have stimulated deal-related travel.

Singapore Airlines also saw a gradual recovery in corporate travel, said Campbell Wilson, a general manager at its Hong Kong branch. However, he said, average airfares remained below last year's despite capacity cuts and an increase in the percentage of seats sold.

"While healthy load factors present a case for more capacity, the economic case for rates restoration is not necessarily as robust as load factors may imply," Wilson said.

Tyler echoed this sentiment, saying Cathay's strategy was to focus on yield improvement. He expected "a long uphill climb" to get business back to the level airlines once enjoyed.

The cargo business has recovered better and more quickly than the passenger division at Cathay. Freight rates have increased threefold since August to more than HK$45 per kilogram because of a rise in cargo demand and capacity cuts by airlines. Cathay said its cargo business was 14 per cent above target last week.

"We still anticipate that this year's peak will last longer than usual, running to mid-December," Tyler said in the e-mail.

International carriers also saw improving traffic demand in October. Passenger demand on international routes rose 0.5 per cent year on year in October, compared with a 4.7 per cent drop for the first 10 months, according to figures from the International Air Transport Association (Iata). Cargo demand dipped 0.5 per cent in October compared with a 14.9 per cent drop for the first 10 months.

The good news for carriers is the percentage of seats sold and cargo load factor have rebounded to the pre-recession levels of 78 per cent and 54 per cent, respectively, thanks to capacity management efforts.

"Although there has been a modest rise in airfares since mid-year, it remains around 20 per cent less expensive to fly in real terms today than it was a year ago," said Iata.

Cathay's shares rose 2.6 per cent to HK$13.24 yesterday.
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Cathay Pacific launches campaign to stop toilet blocking
2 December 2009
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Cathay Pacific has placed warning signs inside lavatories on its Airbus fleet to prevent passengers from clogging toilets with bulky items, an airline spokeswoman confirmed Wednesday.

The move comes after a spate of mysterious blockages on Cathay planes, including one last month that forced a Riyadh-Hong Kong flight to make an unscheduled landing in Mumbai, causing an 18-hour delay.

Two other Airbus flights -- one from Rome on November 9 and another from Dubai on November 19 -- had to restrict passenger numbers when it was discovered that the toilets onboard had malfunctioned.

The problem could be due to passengers flushing away bulky items, the carrier has said.

The new stickers on the inner and outer lid of toilets show pictures of towels, cups, containers, napkins, sick bags and other items beneath a sign in English and Chinese warning: "These items will choke the toilet. Please dispose of them in the waste bin."

Cloth towels in first-class lavatories will be replaced with paper towels until the end of the month.

Cathay Chief Executive Tony Tyler sent an internal staff memo describing the grounded flights as "very unfortunate," the South China Morning Post reported.

The carrier's engineers are now fitting new pipes and carrying out deep-cleaning treatment on toilets, the paper added.

Aircraft toilets use pipes that carry waste up to 110 kilometres an hour (69 miles per hour) into a holding tank that is emptied between flights.

Vacuum systems operate separately down each side of the plane, meaning a blockage usually affects all toilets on one side of the aircraft.

The carrier's internal regulations say that planes must have at least one toilet per 80 passengers, meaning passenger numbers are restricted if some lavatories are out of service.
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Old December 3rd, 2009, 08:26 AM   #1631
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Cathay Pacific offers special Business Class fare on New York-Hong Kong route
2 December 2009
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Cathay Pacific announced on Tuesday that it is offering a special Business Class round-trip fare of USD4065.65 for travel from New York's John F. Kennedy International Airport to Hong Kong.

The fare includes taxes and charges and can be purchased through travel agents or at Cathay Pacific's website, for outbound travel until 1 January 2010.
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Cathay Pacific to serve Milan

Milan will gain a direct flight link with Hong Kong when Cathay Pacific launches a non-stop service on March 28.

Flights will operate four times a week (daily except Tuesday, Thursday and Saturday) with B777-300ERs.

No other carrier plies between these two cities so Cathay Pacific will have the route all to itself.

Flight schedules will be:

CX235 departing Hong Kong 0005 and arriving into Milan Malpensa at 0735
CX216 departing Milan Malpensa 1325 and arriving into Hong Hong at 0700 the following day.

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Milan will gain a direct flight link with Hong Kong when Cathay Pacific launches a non-stop service on March 28.

Flights will operate four times a week (daily except Tuesday, Thursday and Saturday) with B777-300ERs.

No other carrier plies between these two cities so Cathay Pacific will have the route all to itself.

Flight schedules will be:

CX235 departing Hong Kong 0005 and arriving into Milan Malpensa at 0735
CX216 departing Milan Malpensa 1325 and arriving into Hong Hong at 0700 the following day.

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Adding flgihts to Toronto and Los Angeles are also included in their latest expansion plan.



"CX will also add 3/wk non-stop to YYZ from 28 March 2010 with the old nightmere flight schedule for pilots!

CX820 HKG0245 – 0545YYZ 77W 357 (new flights)CX826 HKG1610 – 1925YYZ 77W D

CX829 YYZ0130 – 0500+1HKG 77W D (with shorter idle time at YYZ)
CX827 YYZ0935 – 1300+1HKG 77W 357 (new flights)

CX will resume thrice daily LAX service from 01MAY10
CX884 HKG1310 – 1120LAX 77W 146 (resumed flight)
CX882 HKG1615 – 1415LAX 744 D (back from 77W)
CX880 HKG2340 – 2205LAX 77W D

CX881 LAX0150 – 0725+1HKG 77W D
CX885 LAX1305 – 1845+1HKG 77W 146 (resumed flight)
CX883 LAX2305 – 0525+2HKG 744 D (back from 77W)

Mentioned daily 77W to SFO (CX870/9) from 1 Feb too"

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國泰開米蘭線增北美航班
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國泰航空 今天宣布,由明年3月28日起開辦往來香港及米蘭的直航客運航線。成為唯一為香港及米蘭這兩主要商業城市提供直航服務的航空公司。

每周四班的米蘭線以波音777-300 ER超長途飛機運作,配備廣受歡迎的三客艙新產品。

國泰行政總裁湯彥麟表示,相信航線有助米蘭迅速成為區內商務及休閒旅客的熱門目的地。國泰於1986年4月在意大利 首都羅馬設立首個意國航點,目前每日皆有一客運航班前往。此外,我們每周亦有六班貨運航班往來米蘭,連同新開辦的米蘭客運服務,國泰每周往來意大利的客運航班數目會增至11班。米蘭成為了國泰客運服務網絡中的第47個航點。

除開辦米蘭客運服務外,國泰由明年3月28 日起會增加往來北美多個航點的班次。目前每天一班往來多倫多的服務會每周加開三班,新增航班逢周三、周五及周日於零晨2時45分由香港出發,而原有每天一班的服務將於下午4時10分由香港啟程。
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Cathay pacific to launch direct flights to Milan, strengthen services to North America

4 December 2009

  Cathay Pacific Airways today announced that it will launch a scheduled passenger service between Hong Kong and Milan, Italy’s principal business and finance centre and a world-renowned capital for design and fashion, on 28 March 2010. The latest addition to the network highlights the airline’s commitment to the Italian market and its ongoing work to strengthen Hong Kong’s position as one of the world’s leading international aviation hubs.
The new four-times-weekly service will be operated by a Boeing 777-300ER ultra-long-haul aircraft featuring Cathay Pacific’s acclaimed three-class inflight product. The new service will increase the airline’s presence in Europe and provide passengers with greater flexibility for travel between Italy and Hong Kong and to other destinations in Asia and Australasia.

Cathay Pacific Chief Executive Tony Tyler said: "We are very excited to launch a new service to this dynamic city, and we expect it to help Milan to develop quickly as a prime destination for business and leisure travellers from this part of the world. This is the only direct service between these two major commercial cities and our strong network will enable us to offer great connections for travellers from northern Italy through the superb Hong Kong hub.”

Cathay Pacific began flying to Italy in April 1986 when it launched a service to the capital city, Rome. The airline currently operates a daily passenger service to Rome and a six-times-weekly freighter service to Milan, and will offer a total of 11 passenger flights to and from Italy each week when Milan launches as a passenger destination. The city will become the 47th online destination in Cathay Pacific’s passenger network.

In addition to the launch of the Milan service, Cathay Pacific will also be further strengthening its services to and from North America. From 28 March, three flights a week will be added to the existing daily service to Toronto. The additional services will depart Hong Kong at 02.45 every Wednesday, Friday and Sunday while the existing daily flights will depart at 16.10 from Hong Kong.

The airline is also adding three flights per week to Los Angeles from 1 May, increasing the frequency to 17 each week. The extra flights will depart Hong Kong at 13.10 every Monday, Thursday and Saturday. In addition, with effect from 28 March, one of the two daily flights to San Francisco will be retimed to depart at 23.55 from Hong Kong, giving passengers a choice of daytime or nighttime departures.


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Hmm .. so the axed frequencies are slowly being restored.
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Enjoy foreign service on N. American flights
'Fifth-freedom' routes let travelers experience exotic airline travel

7 December 2009
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TORONTO -- Have you always wanted to fly Hong Kong's Cathay Pacific Airlines, a carrier renowned for its service, but haven't had the time or money to get away to Asia?

No worry -- you can fly them without leaving North America.

The Hong Kong-based carrier flies -- and sells tickets on -- flights between New York's JFK and Vancouver, British Columbia.

It would be natural to assume such a route could be served only by U.S. or Canadian airlines. But that's not the case.

Cathay Pacific, which has been flying the New York-Vancouver route since the summer of 1996, is one of a handful of airlines that can sell tickets on flights from the United States to a country in which the airline isn't based.

Chile's LAN Airlines, Philippine Airlines, Kuwait Airways and Air India are among other airlines that are beneficiaries of a series of bilateral agreements that the U.S. has negotiated with other countries that permit such flights.

Some customers even seek out such flights because of their unusual nature.

"For enthusiasts, these flights are fantastic," says Brett Snyder, a self-proclaimed "airline dork" and author of the popular aviation blog The Cranky Flier.

"People choose this kind of stuff all the time," Snyder says of the routes, which often are referred to as "fifth-freedom" routes in aviation lingo. "Fifth-freedom operations are defined as the ability of an airline to carry traffic between two foreign cities on a flight that also goes to or comes from its home country," explains Susan Kurland, assistant secretary for Aviation and International Affairs at the U.S. Department of Transportation.

Airline enthusiasts seek such flights because they're relatively rare and in many cases give them a chance to fly an airline from a far-off land offering a unique brand of service.

"It's like a little bit of exotic flavor," Snyder says.

He points out the Las Vegas-Vancouver fifth-freedom route operated by Philippine Airlines, one of the more unusual carriers to sell flights between two mainland North American cities.

"Even if you're just flying between Las Vegas and Vancouver on Philippine Air, it's just kind of cool that you can do it. It's something a little different," he says.

There's more than novelty to such flights.

Travelers who know to look can sometimes score big savings, says George Hobica, founder of Airfarewatchdog.com. "The trick is just knowing about them," Hobica says. "Why would you look for Air India if you're flying to Europe from the United States?

Giving travelers more options

Hobica says it's not uncommon for airlines flying those flights to undercut the prices charged by local competitors, sometimes by hundreds of dollars.

Service is another important factor, Forrester Research travel analyst Henry Harteveldt says. He notes that on many of those routes, the third-country airlines often fly long-haul jets that come with upscale service that frequently outshines the local carriers flying the route.

Facing that kind of competition often puts the home-country airlines at a disadvantage, Snyder says.

While foreign carriers tend to fly their flagship long-haul jets on fifth-freedom routes to the USA, he says, "Their competition often comes from airlines flying what's basically a domestic product."

One of the carriers flying the most fifth-freedom routes from the United States is Singapore Airlines -- an airline regarded by numerous annual surveys and rankings as the world's best.

Singapore flies five routes from the USA: New York JFK- Frankfurt; Houston-Moscow; Los Angeles-Tokyo Narita; San Francisco- Hong Kong; San Francisco-Seoul.

Those collection of routes -- all of which continue to the airline's Singapore hub -- give the carrier's U.S. customers an "interesting mix" of options, company spokesman James Boyd says.

For example, Boyd says that "if you're interested in an Asian standard of service to Europe, you could take our non-stop New York JFK-Frankfurt flight" instead of the more customary options offered by U.S. and European carriers.

More markets for airlines

Tirath Patel is one traveler who says he's used the unusual fifth- freedom options to his advantage.

Patel, 33, a pharmaceutical researcher living in Northbrook, Ill., says he chose Air India for a trip between Chicago O'Hare and Frankfurt because it was cheaper than options he found on rivals American, Lufthansa and United. He also liked that Air India flies Boeing 777s.

He says he was able to avoid checked-bag fees charged by American and United since Air India has a higher checked luggage allowance.

"All in all, it wasn't a bad experience in economy class," Patel says. "I'm fairly picky about flights, airlines, airports."

The routes do more than give customers extra options. The routes can give airlines such as Singapore and Cathay Pacific access to potentially lucrative markets that are unavailable from their home markets.

Take Singapore's Houston-Moscow service, on which the carrier says it will add a fifth weekly flight beginning this month. Not only is that a sign of robust demand between the two energy hubs, but it also makes it one of Singapore's first transcontinental routes to grow in capacity since the current global economic crisis first began.

Boyd says corporate demand between Moscow and Houston has been strong, which the airline had expected. But he adds that the route also has proved to be strong with leisure customers that have ties to family in Southeast Asia.

Boyd says those travelers -- headed to places such as the Philippines and Vietnam -- "head home like clockwork once or twice a year" and are willing to book competitively priced coach-class seats on the Houston-Singapore route that flies via Moscow.

Cathay Pacific's New York-Vancouver-Hong Kong route is a profitable one, says Dennis Owen, the airline's vice president of marketing for the Americas. That's despite the fact that the carrier also flies non-stop between New York and Hong Kong, a route added more recently with the advent of ultra-long-haul aircraft.

For now, though, such fifth-freedom flights continue to operate "under the radar" for most customers, Hobica says.

And they'll likely continue to be highly sought after by airline "geeks."

"My personal favorite of all the fifth-freedom routes is Air New Zealand's London-Los Angeles" route, Cranky Flier author Snyder says.

Although he has plenty of other options on the route -- including non-stop service on both British Airways and Virgin Atlantic -- he says the business class on Air New Zealand is often a bit cheaper than other carriers flying the route.

Perhaps more important, he says, "I just really like what those guys do. I really like their onboard product. It's just something a little different."

As recently as five or six years ago, fifth-freedom routes were essential for far-off global carriers if they wanted to service the United States or other distant markets. Aircraft technology at that time didn't allow planes to make the "ultra-long-haul" flights that have proliferated in the past five years.

If Singapore wanted to serve New York or Los Angeles, for example, the carrier's jets would first have had to stop in a closer city such as Tokyo because they lacked the range to make it from Singapore to the USA, Boyd explains.

Now, a wave of technologically advanced jets have made non-stop flights between Singapore and the USA possible. But until that happened, some of the older routes negotiated in bilateral agreements had developed staying power -- so they remain today.

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'Fifth-freedom' routes

Among major foreign airlines' "fifth-freedom" routes:

Philippines Air: Las Vegas-Vancouver

Korean Air: Los Angeles-Sao Paulo; Los Angeles-Tokyo

Air New Zealand: Los Angeles-London Heathrow

Kuwait Airways: New York JFK-London Heathrow

South African Airways: Washington Dulles-Dakar, Senegal

LAN: Toronto-New York JFK

Air India: Newark Liberty-Frankfurt; Chicago O'Hare-Frankfurt

Air Tahiti Nui: Los Angeles-Paris Charles De Gaulle

Jet Airways: Newark Liberty-Brussels
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Cathay Pacific releases combined traffic figures for November 2009
10 December 2009
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Cathay Pacific Airways today released combined Cathay Pacific and Dragonair traffic figures for November 2009 that show passenger volumes and cargo and mail tonnage rising over the same month in 2008 – though by November last year traffic had already been significantly impacted by the economic downturn.

Cathay Pacific and Dragonair carried a total of 2,007,773 passengers in November – up 1.5% against the same month in 2008. The month’s load factor was 82.0%, up 6.3 percentage points, while capacity for the month, measured in available seat kilometres (ASKs), was down by 5.9%. For the year to date, the number of passengers carried is down by 3.3% compared to a capacity decline of 4.7%.

The two airlines carried a total of 141,799 tonnes of cargo and mail last month, up 7.6% on November 2008, while the cargo and mail load factor rose by 12.3 percentage points to 76.8%. Capacity for the month, measured in available cargo/mail tonne kilometres, was 12.9% down. For the year to date, tonnage has fallen by 9.5% against a capacity reduction of 13.9%.

Cathay Pacific General Manager Revenue Management Tom Owen said: “Our overall passenger numbers saw a year-on-year rise in November, mainly driven by demand in our Economy cabins. The rise in passenger numbers was achieved against a fall in capacity, which helped to push up load factors and improve average yields a little off their low base. We were also encouraged to see a modest rise in the number of passengers flying in our premium cabins, though still at volumes and yields well below what we were seeing before the economic crash in late 2008.”

Cathay Pacific General Manager Cargo Sales & Marketing Titus Diu said: “November saw continuing strong demand out of the Hong Kong and Shanghai markets, and the significant reductions in capacity helped to push up our cargo load factor to the highest seen so far this year. Demand was particularly strong to North America and Europe and we were pleased to see further increases in yield. However, we remain cautious about the outlook for demand after the current seasonal peak.”
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