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Old June 23rd, 2006, 06:12 AM   #181
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Old June 25th, 2006, 03:15 AM   #182
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Photo update - June 24, 2006

Erotica L.A. is at the Convention Center this weekend, so I thought it entirely appropriate to post a smattering of construction porn. Enjoy!


South - Luma

Looks like the 8th floor has in fact been poured.



And the first facade pieces have been put along the Hope St. side. It's more of a slate gray color, as opposed to the brown shown in the renders. It almost appears to be unpolished granite, but I don't think it is.



Other than some additional digging, there wasn't anything interesting to photograph at Evo, since it's still foundation work - though it was active and there appeared to be more progress.


LA Live

Lots of progress happening here. Looking at the south side of the site (with the Nokia Theater in the background) from Figueroa. Notice they're starting to frame the second floorplate of underground parking.



Looking at the middle of the site from Figueroa.



The northeast corner, from the same spot (I was a bit lazy today).



And the area where the hotel will go looks like it's been completely dug out. If they wanted to, they could theoretically start on that now. But it doesn't seem like they will.




Hanover Tower

Hands down the fastest moving tower downtown at the moment. These guys are flying.




Ralph's - Market Lofts

From across the Concerto site. One more floor to go on the west side. They're still working on the sixth floor on the east side (not pictured).




Concerto

These two guys...



...have been working together to drive these piles into the ground.




Colburn Expansion

They've poured the higher floor on the south side, and they're starting the facade on the residential floors.




Artisan on Second

I dropped in on the sales center for the Artisan on 2nd and they had a pretty cool model. Prices aren't too bad on these.






Speaking of sales centers, I visited the South sales center, and the guy there told me that Fig South would be breaking ground in December. There will be a 34 story tower and a 23 or 24 story tower. I asked him how concrete that December ground breaking was and he said that the first phase of Evo selling out had cemented that date and they will be moving forward with it. Of course, the market will determine that.
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Old June 25th, 2006, 11:26 PM   #183
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So if the market stays the way it is at the moment we'll have Fig South starting by December. Cool, although onwe tower got scaled down from 34 floors to 23 or 24 floors. Keep fingers crossed for these two guys to start in December.
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Old July 1st, 2006, 11:20 PM   #184
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so no one posted the grand Towers next to TransAmerica?



Grand Towers
Los Angeles, CA
Client: Alameda Group and Meruelo/Maddux Development
Tower One: 44 stories
Retail 15,000sf

Residential Condominiums 432,000sf

Total 447,000sf

High-Rise towers have finally arrived in Downtown Los Angeles. This is a tower that stands on-grade with a parking structure abutting which serves several residential towers. An icon that proudly takes its place in the Los Angeles Skyline.

The primary goal of Van Tilburg, Banvard & Soderbergh is to provide meaningful design solutions that effectively respond to the needs of our clients and the inhabitants of our buildings, while respecting the sensitive balance of community and the environment.
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Old July 1st, 2006, 11:23 PM   #185
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How can an important project like that could of slip thru the cracks.

LASF, how was Germany???
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Old July 1st, 2006, 11:47 PM   #186
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Germany was fantastic. Saw most of the country thanks to our rental and the navigation system. Frankfurt and Nurnburg were my favorites, Berlin was cool and Liepzig has the potential to be Florence Italy if it wasnt for all the abandonment and emptyness. Overall a very green country, clean and fun. So many people from all over the world there, and it was fun watching all the games from the fan fest and i actually went to the Mexico / Argentina Game. Decent food as well.
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Old July 2nd, 2006, 05:43 AM   #187
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Right on LASF,
Funny you mentioned the game you went to but both of those teams lost and went home. Well there's always next 4 years.... Goooooooooooool!


Now back to scrappers, Grand Tower is going to be 44 levels.... Way to go!
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Old July 2nd, 2006, 12:31 PM   #188
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another update July 2nd, 2006

1. The City House - 60 Stories

2. Ritz Carlton / Marriot - 54 Stories
3. Metropolis Tower 3 – 55 Stories
4. The Olympic - 50 Stories
5. Zen Tower - 50 Stories
6. Grand Avenue Tower 1 – 50 Stories

7. Metropolis Tower 2 – 46 Stories
8. Metropolis Tower 4 – 42 Stories
9. CIM Tower - 42 Stories
10. Vibiana tower - 41 stories
11. 8th & Grand Tower 1 - 40 Stories
12. Fig Central Tower 1 - 40 Stories
13. 9th & Flower Tower - 40 Stories
14. Grand Avenue Tower 2 – 40 Stories

15. Olive Street Tower - 35 Stories
16. Herald Examiner Tower 2 – 34 Stories
17. Trinity Towers - 34 Stories
18. Fig South Tower 1 - 34 Stories
19. Fig South Tower 2 - 34 Stories
20. Metropolis Tower 1 – 30 Stories
21. Pacific Stock Exchange Tower 1 - 30 Stories
22. Pacific Stock Exchange Tower 2 - 30 Stories
23. Grand Avenue Tower 3 – 30 Stories

24. Fig Central Tower 2 - 27 Stories
25. Hanover Tower - 27 Stories
26. Concerto Tower 1 - 27 Stories
27. Concerto Tower 2 - 27 Stories
28. Glass Tower - 25 Stories
29. Grand Avenue Tower 5 – 25 Stories
30. Grand Avenue Tower 6 – 25 Stories
31. Hope Street Condos - 25 Stories
32. Evo - 24 Stories
33. 8th & Grand Tower 2 - 24 Stories
34. Herald Examiner Tower 2 - 24 Stories
35. Little Tokyo Block Eight Tower - 20 Stories
36. Grand Avenue Tower 4 – 20 Stories

37. FIDM Tower - 19 Stories
38. Luma - 17 Stories
39. Federal Courthouse - 16 Stories


New Projects to be announced soon...

Grand Towers
- Looks like 2 towers of 44 stories and one of around 30 - 35.


Third hotel at LA Live - 350 rooms, possibly 30 -55 stories tall?

Park Fifth - 65 stories
- 36 stories
- 14 stories
- 14 stories

Sci Arc Towers - ?

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Old July 3rd, 2006, 09:43 AM   #189
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Aren't the new towers for Metropolis smaller??? Way to go LA, even though we'll probably gonna get a third of them done.
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Old July 3rd, 2006, 10:24 PM   #190
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nice positive thinking
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Old July 3rd, 2006, 11:42 PM   #191
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Yeah I was kind of negative yesterday. In a more possitive note, the Grand Tower look really nice, they seem to have a lot of space at the bottom. 15,000 sf of retail not bad, plus these two beuties are going to stick out like crazy from the east side {just what I think] Is there any way to make those floor plans bigger???
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Old July 4th, 2006, 12:28 AM   #192
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Xela El "San Pedro Sula" de Guatemala

Woauw,Los Angeles Rocks!!!!!, really a city with a big spot and a big precence, congratulation and go on....
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Old July 4th, 2006, 06:41 AM   #193
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Hotels Please, But Hold the Condos
Construction of high-priced units may outpace buying pool

By keeley webster
CREJ Staff Writer
The lopsided development of for-sale housing in downtown Los Angeles targeting primarily the upper end of the market has frequently received criticism from a spectrum of market watchers.
Aside from the social justice aspects of not building housing for middle-class and lower-income Angelenos, some wonder how deep the high-end demand really is.
If the market for young professionals who can pay upward of $800,000 for one of the 17,000 condominiums in the pipeline, according to the Downtown Business Improvement District, is somewhat limited, then the buying pool for residents who can afford a unit in a Ritz-Carlton hotel has to be even smaller.
"I guess we will find out," said Jim Butler, a hotel lawyer specializing in representing hotel owners and developers, and chair of the global hospitality group of Jeffer, Mangels, Butler & Marmaro LLP. "There certainly is a demand for residential. More business people are moving back to the city's core."
KB Urban and Anschutz Entertainment Group, a wholly-owned subsidiary of the Anschutz Co. and the developer of L.A. Live, announced June 13 an agreement with Marriott International Inc. to open an 876-room Marriott Marquis hotel that will serve as the headquarters hotel of the convention center. Housed in the same building will be a 124-room boutique Ritz-Carlton hotel and 216 private condominiums. The projected cost of the hotel tower is in the $700 million range, according to Jeffrey Gault, president of KB Urban.
The 54-story building's exterior will feature a metal-and-glass curtain wall in colors of blue and green and patterns, creating a distinctive profile that emphasizes the slender proportions of the building.
The Marriott rooms will take up the first through 21st floors, the Ritz will take up floors 22 through 25, with the residences occupying floors 27 through 52. The 26th, 53rd and 54th floors will house mechanical equipment.
Butler advises his clients thinking of building a mixed-use condo-hotel that each component has to be viable on its own merit. With its connection to the L.A. Live entertainment and The Ritz-Carlton cachet, he thinks the KB project has a good chance of succeeding.
"I think the concept is admirable," Butler said. "I worked downtown 10 years ago, and there was nothing to do. Part of the excitement of New York and Chicago is that they are 24-hour cities. There is stuff to do, see and participate in. I think what is happening at L.A. Live is very viable in creating that type of energy."
Buyers of The Ritz-Carlton condominiums are expected to be corporations with offices downtown and affluent U.S. residents as well as people who live abroad but who have ties to Southern California, Gault said.
"For this buyer, a home at The Ritz-Carlton Residences is about needs anticipated, privacy ensured and living a vibrant lifestyle in the center of one of the world's greatest cities," Gault said. "L.A. Live will offer those unforgettable experiences with dining, live entertainment, sporting events and much more."
KB Urban will have some competition from other developers in the condo-hotel space, but the company thinks its project can hold its own.
While no announcement has been made, The Related Cos. has been negotiating to bring a W Hotel with condominiums to its Grand Avenue project, said Jack Kyser, senior vice president and chief economist for Los Angeles Economic Development Corp.
There are also plans for a Four Seasons with a residential component at a parcel located on the corner of Figueroa and Seventh streets, he said, and the Westin Bonaventure has the ability to convert some of its hotel rooms to condominiums, adding more of the same product to the stock.
However, the Ritz-Carlton will set the top of the market, according to Daniel Wiedman, a spokesman for KB Home. Actual price points have yet to be set for the 218 residences that are slated for completion by late 2009 or early 2010.
Bruce Karatz, chairman and chief executive officer of KB Home, said that while condo-hotels don't work everywhere at any pricing point, his project is unique.
"We think there is a market for it, but it certainly isn't without risk," he said.
Timing is also another KB advantage.
"We are not all coming on line at the same time," Gault said. "We are the only one in construction. We are digging the foundation now and going vertical in January."
The sales center is scheduled to open in 2007.
Marriott, which has prior successes in both Washington, D.C. and Boston with its Ritz-Carlton residences, is nonplused by the possibility of competition.
"We think all the ingredients are there," said Roger Conner, vice president of communications for Marriott International Inc. "It's Los Angeles. You've got the demographics. It's a city known to be hot, hip and have cool activities, which includes a night life for the residents."
The only unproven factor is whether this concept can succeed in downtown Los Angeles, Conner said.
The Marriott joins a whole host of other developers betting on the success of city officials' plan to turn Los Angeles' downtown into a 24-hour city with such retail amenities as a grocery store, clothiers, restaurants or even dry cleaning services.
Being connected to the 4 million-square-foot L.A. Live gives the Marriott hotel project an upper hand from Gault's viewpoint. He points out that AEG has plans for a dozen restaurants, the 7,100-seat NOKIA Theater, the 2,200-seat Club NOKIA, a 14-screen Regal Cineplex, broadcast facilities for ESPN and office space at the $2.5 billion L.A. Live.

Long-Awaited
The 2 million-square-foot hotel tower, a major component of L.A. Live, is the long-awaited hotel project that will serve the Los Angeles convention center, which was expanded in 1992.
"When the pro forma was done for the convention center, there was an assumption that it could serve 4,000 hotel units," said Michael Collins, executive vice president of L.A. Inc., the convention and visitors bureau. "There were hotel projects planned in the 1980s, but none were completed."
Downtown Los Angeles only has 1,500 hotel rooms within walking distance of its convention center. In comparison, San Francisco has 9,000 hotel rooms near its convention center and San Diego has 4,000.
"While our West Coast competitors were feverishly building hotel product, Los Angeles' hotel product was in suspended animation," Collins said. "The fact that it wasn't developing at the rate of our competitors became apparent in 2001 when San Diego and Anaheim completed their convention centers."
Los Angeles could use another 2,500 hotel rooms within walking distance of the convention center based on the then-Deloitte & Touche analysis done when the convention center was expanded, Collins said.
"We have had the ability to create more demand than we could house downtown," Collins said. "Los Angeles as a market has huge appeal. The idea of a headquarters hotel next to the convention center has been fundamental to our ability to get back into the convention game."
San Diego and Anaheim pulled a huge chunk of business from Los Angeles when their convention centers came on line. Previously, Los Angeles was averaging slightly more than 30 conventions annually. The number of conventions annually began to drop in 2001. This year, Los Angeles only attracted 16 conventions.
"The need for the new hotel became more apparent as the national market became increasingly aware of the fact that our competition is doing a very nice job of building to meet demand," Collins said.
By the end of fiscal year 2005 in June, L.A. Inc. had booked 72,000 hotel rooms worth of convention business. For this year, L.A. Inc. has booked 305,000 rooms worth of future convention business.
"One year later and the only significant change is that well-publicized decision by the city that they would help fund a convention center hotel," Collins said. "We didn't even know what the hotel brand was until recently."
Ever since the city announced early this year its plans to earmark funding to aid in construction of a convention center hotel, that trend has been changing, Collins said.
After his experience in the 1980s, Collins said, history "tells us that many projects on the books don't come to fruition."
"Many don't, but many will," he added. "I think just the fact that the news is out that there will be that hotel and it will open in late 2009 or 2010 will cause some other properties to make adjustments."
For example, Collins said the Wilshire Grand has announced plans to invest $40 million in upgrades to its property.
"The commitment from Marriott International, considered to be the most knowledgeable company on convention center 'headquarters hotels' and their Marriott Marquis and The Ritz Carlton brands, clearly verifies the industry's excitement and enthusiasm for downtown Los Angeles, the convention center and L.A. Live," said Timothy J. Leiweke, president and chief executive officer of AEG.
Leiweke has often made references to the fact that Des Moines, Iowa, has been able to attract more convention center business than Los Angeles in recent years.
"When the hotel comes on line, Los Angeles will again be able to compete with other West Coast convention destinations," Collins said. "We will certainly beat Des Moines, and I suspect a few others along with them.''
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Old July 4th, 2006, 07:38 AM   #194
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WOw A Four Season's hu. I didn't see that coming. I agree with the article. The LA Live hotel will have some sort of advantage over the other proposed high end condos like the Grand AV ones and possibly the Bonaventure. hOTEL GOING VERTICAL IN JANUARY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And the good news keep on coming!!! [.
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Here's a pic of Fig and 7th, actualy Glower and 7th. Something must be build here, I didn't know it actually was that bad. The pic is taken by Eric Richardson, and was posted in SSP.
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Kind of old but here's just a reminder of what the area of South Park will look like in the next few years.

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Old July 8th, 2006, 12:15 AM   #197
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not too old, since they have the new heights for the Second South group project (Breaking ground in december), and it looks like a new proposal for the fig central site. its just the hilton that is off. thanks for the post.
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^Is that the final design for Figueroa South?
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It's kinda of funny to see how the Convention Ctr. Hotel evolutionated from that to the new one. That desing is ok, sort of reminds me of the Citicorp Center in NY. The Hanover Tower is different too.
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