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Old May 16th, 2006, 11:17 PM   #41
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ou sorry...not one of its kind, there is another car like that

citroen c4 is a bit similiar in style, but still not as shocking

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Old May 17th, 2006, 12:48 PM   #42
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They surrendered to the US at that time, so the US allowed them learning US car technologies and exporting their cars to the US market against making US military bases in their lands. As the proof look at the pitiful appearances of the countries that rebelled against the US after WWII.
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Ok first of all: the axis powers surrendered to the allies.
Means the Soviet Union, the US, Great Britain and pretty much the rest of the world.

Secondly: The car is a german invention in case you forgot.
The americans snatched away a high proprtion of german technology after the war. Not vice versa.

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Old May 17th, 2006, 12:53 PM   #43
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Btw: If I had enough money Id probably buy this:





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Old May 17th, 2006, 05:05 PM   #44
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Ok first of all: the axis powers surrendered to the allies.
Means the Soviet Union, the US, Great Britain and pretty much the rest of the world.

Secondly: The car is a german invention in case you forgot.
The americans snatched away a high proprtion of german technology after the war. Not vice versa.
Japan, West Germany and Italy surrendered to the US and adopted American culture and made a model of Anglosaxon capitalism. The Soviets stole the nuclear technology the US invented and kept occupying East Germany by the stolen power and tortured East German people with Slavic values. Britain was already a pupil of the US in WWII but many Americans still respect Brits that divided the same blood. Cars were called toys for the nobility but were massproduced by the Ford system. The lower middle class like you wouldn't buy a car without Ford.
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Old May 17th, 2006, 07:48 PM   #45
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General Motors, Ford, and Chrysler were huge corporations before WWII. To imply that the American auto industry succeeded because they got German technology after WWII is ridiculous. GM has owned the German automaker Opel since the 1920's. Adolf Hitler nationalized it in the 1930's, but after WWII the Germans had to give it back to GM.
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Old May 17th, 2006, 10:49 PM   #46
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heh, Germany and Japan were in luck, being in the western zone gave them an opportunity to get HUUGE sums of money for reconstruction.
American money made both countries what they are now...

Unfortunately instead of American dollars, the Russians invested in Poland...with ideology of Marx and Lenin
If we were in the AMerican zone after WW2, Poland would be now one of the leadning countries in Europe...it did not happen and we have to catch up after 50 years of communism. A lot have been done during these years, eg Warsaw after the war was destroyed in 99 per cent...now it's againg the biggest city in central Europe. But...govermental transformation caused crisis and now we are cathing up having less than 20 years of experience as a free market economy

so...no Polish marques anymore only licensed producers
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Old May 17th, 2006, 10:51 PM   #47
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ps Germans had to give chrysler back...but eventually took over chrysler as a compensation
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Old May 18th, 2006, 01:51 AM   #48
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Lets keep politics out of this guys. No war discussion.
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Old May 18th, 2006, 05:55 AM   #49
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Chevrolet Camaro


It isn't set for production yet though, I assume it will be.
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Old May 18th, 2006, 06:40 AM   #50
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Secondly: The car is a german invention in case you forgot.
The americans snatched away a high proprtion of german technology after the war. Not vice versa.
Funny, considering that we had cars prior to WWII.

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Old May 18th, 2006, 02:23 PM   #51
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Funny, considering that we had cars prior to WWII.

Lol? Germany invented the car.
Dont forget that the VW beetle was already mass-produced before ww2.

Mercedes, Autounion, BMW were all large corporations before ww2.
And you guys like to forget that Germany was the first country in the world with a modern nationwide spanning highway network.
The world copied it

then we have the engines.

The OTTO engine (conventional engine which is in use in pretty much every car) is a german invention.
The Diesel engine is a german invention (developed by Rudolph Diesel)
And the Wankel engine is german aswell. (turbine engine that is still in use in some Mazda models like the RX-8


then youve got the airbag, abs etc etc you name it.
Honestly weve contributed more to the car development than any other nation.

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Old May 18th, 2006, 02:31 PM   #52
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Japan, West Germany and Italy surrendered to the US and adopted American culture and made a model of Anglosaxon capitalism. The Soviets stole the nuclear technology the US invented and kept occupying East Germany by the stolen power and tortured East German people with Slavic values. Britain was already a pupil of the US in WWII but many Americans still respect Brits that divided the same blood. Cars were called toys for the nobility but were massproduced by the Ford system. The lower middle class like you wouldn't buy a car without Ford.
the axis powers surrendered to the allies you nutter.
The Soviet Union alone contributed more to the victory of the allies in ww2 than any other nation by a very long shot.
And capitalism was around since ages. May I remind you that the first stock exchange was in the Netherlands?
In fact the first country in the world to fully adopt global capitalism was Great Britain.
And the nuclear bomb was merely invented by european scientists.
Ever heard of Einstein? Does that ring any bells?
And as I said: Cars like the VW Beetle were produced on a mass scale before ww2.
The Beetle is also the most sold car in the world to this date.

Car companies have always been big companies since the car was invented here.
Dont forget that Opel has been bought up by GM in 1926.And its still owned by GM. (which isnt very healthy for Opel )
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General Motors, Ford, and Chrysler were huge corporations before WWII. To imply that the American auto industry succeeded because they got German technology after WWII is ridiculous. GM has owned the German automaker Opel since the 1920's. Adolf Hitler nationalized it in the 1930's, but after WWII the Germans had to give it back to GM.
I said: the americans and Soviets snatched of german technology after the war and not vice versa.
With that I mean military technology.
Nazi Germany was easily a mere 15 years ahead technologically wise.

Think of the first ballistic missiles, the first jet fighter/bomber, cruise missiles, infrared scopes etc etc etc...
It has nothing to do with the car industry but with general technology.
It was your friend SEG, who was implying that the US brought any kind of new car technology to Germany
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Old May 18th, 2006, 02:56 PM   #54
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Old May 18th, 2006, 03:13 PM   #55
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Alfa Romeo 159, poor Americans won't see this one either:

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Old May 18th, 2006, 04:12 PM   #56
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actually there's something wrong with the link and nobody sees it
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Old May 18th, 2006, 04:15 PM   #57
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The new Alfa is great but its a bit underpowered
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Alfa Romeo 159, poor Americans won't see this one either:
Don't be so sure. Alfa Plans Return to US
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The Beetle is also the most sold car in the world to this date.
Nope, that's not correct. The VW Golf (Rabbit for the US-Americans) is now the most sold car to this date.
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Old May 19th, 2006, 09:39 AM   #60
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^ The Golf hasn't been called the Rabbit since the early 90's. Lol..my mom had a shit brown Rabbit. It was cool.
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