Macedonia Miscellaneous

[dejan]

That money could have been put towards a larger one on the main square.....do you have any images of those set up by Karposh?

I hope Argentina wins this one, or Brazil

[dewrob]

No pics man sorry... Brasil is nice to watch but it has too many titles already... I hope someone kicks their ass this time...

[dejan]

Yeah that's true, too much for them hehe

[MKballer]

wow nice stuff happening in skopje....oh and by the way....guess who's going to be landing in skopje on june 22?



MEEEE!!!!!!!!!

haha im so excited!!!

[skender]

i think this is an old pic of skopje

[dewrob]

yeah it's very old... I don't even remember when they took off that banner OHIS on that building... it's at least 15 years ago... but also looking at those flags long flags hanging down... it looks like a commie holiday celebration... I'd give the picture at least 20-25 years...

[dewrob]

Originally Posted by MKballer

wow nice stuff happening in skopje....oh and by the way....guess who's going to be landing in skopje on june 22?



MEEEE!!!!!!!!!

haha im so excited!!!

damn man... that's tomorow... how long has it been since Ur last visit?

[skender]

dj urob do you live in skopje??

[dewrob]

yeap

[skender]

nice...do you live close to cair? ive never been to skopje before but what is it like for a mac to go to cair or an alb to come to a mac neighborhood?
like for example would u go to cair just for the hell of it too drink a beer.

[dewrob]

Originally Posted by skender

nice...do you live close to cair? ive never been to skopje before but what is it like for a mac to go to cair or an alb to come to a mac neighborhood?
like for example would u go to cair just for the hell of it too drink a beer.

the division is really really blown out of proportions... many Macs live in Cair too... Albanians are 68% in that neighbourhood... I go there often enough. I mostely go to buy some burek... there is a great bakery that works all night long there... I see Macedonians and Albanians there in the same line... each talking in their own languages... just waiting for their burek... no problems at all... Many ALBs come to the MK neighbourhoods too... the best shopping malls are in the MK neighbourhoods... I always see many ALBos there... nothing happens again... I also see many cars with Kosovo car plates... nobody bothers again... I know many ALBos that enjoy the mainstream night life of Skopje. In the past 6 years there has been a bilingual radio station... specialized in rock music... MKs and ALBos host the shows together... it organizes many parties... MK and ALB bands mixed... it all works fine...
Whenever there is a ethnic fight... it's usually cause of a football game (like an Albanian and Macedonian football clubs play)... but fans are always idiots... other thing can be a high school fight.... yet again it's teen stuff... so nothing extra ordinary really...

I've told these stories before on SSC but I repeat them again cause it's the truth and it's important...

and if anyone else tries to tell U otherwise... don't beleive him... cause there are some MKs and ALBs who just want to see some negative things going on around here... but the truth is... people just live their lives normally....

the only ALB places in the country that I wouldn't enter myself cause I wouldn't feel comfortable as Macedonian are...

Lipkovo, Aracinovo, Kondovo and Radusha villages... these are the cradle of the Albanian nationalism in MK and U can run into all kinds of people... in all the other places including the bigger towns like Tetovo, Gostivar, Kicevo, Struga... it ain't bad at all....

if U have any more questions shoot, I'll be glad to reply more...

[skender]

I'm just curious you know since many Albanians live there. I dont know if you have any Albanian friends but do Albanian girls go with Macedonian guys, or Alb guys with Mac girls? I know there are troubles at games...Like lately Makedonija beat Shkendija...How about in the night clubs??

yeah hopefully i can come this summer to skopje so i can see myself...one town that i am told to avoid is pirlep..i guess they dont like albanians there either. but i am happy people live happy there because i dont really hear of any big incidents...

and one last question. Which are the better looking girls in Skopje, Alb or Mac? :P be honest lol

anyways thanks a lot man, i appreciate it

[dewrob]

Originally Posted by skender

I'm just curious you know since many Albanians live there. I dont know if you have any Albanian friends but do Albanian girls go with Macedonian guys, or Alb guys with Mac girls? I know there are troubles at games...Like lately Makedonija beat Shkendija...How about in the night clubs??

yeah hopefully i can come this summer to skopje so i can see myself...one town that i am told to avoid is pirlep..i guess they dont like albanians there either.

and one last question. Which are the better looking girls in Skopje, Alb or Mac? :P be honest lol

anyways thanks a lot man, i appreciate it

I guess dating is not that common... I doubt it's prejudice... it's perhaps habbit... or some fear of "what the society would think"... relegius limitations? I don't know... surely some are dating but... I'd say Albanian girls are more closed for this... Albanians (in Macedonia) in general have a more traditional mindset than Macedonians... however... i think that will fade out with the newer generations...

On Makedonija-Shkendija.... there was not much trouble... but there was heavy police security so nothing could happen... just the regular insults between the fans...

in the night clubs U won't likely find any trouble based on nationalism...

U are welcome to check out Skopje of course... as long as U don't provoke anyone... U are safe don't worry... I wouldn't reccomend the summer... everyone is on vacation the city is a ghost town... I'm sure the population shrinks to 300k or something....

but i am happy people live happy there because i dont really hear of any big incidents...

this only proves my point... if it was really as bad as people describe it... we'd hear about a lot of incidents... but there aren't many...

about Prilep I don't know man... I've heard this from other Albanians as well... I don't know what's with that town... I've been there twice only as well... Not much to see there anyways... But I've also heard of people from Prilep villages marrying Albanian girls (from poor parts of Albania). So there are always two sides of the story...

About the girls... First of all... I like girls... I don't care if they are MK, AL, GR, CRO, SR, BG.... there are nice ones and ugly ones... that's where it ends for me...
If we talk about nice girls per capita... I'd go with the Macedonian girls... But again... the quality of Albanian girls is also getting much better lately. I think before they didn't put much effort into their looks... they didn't look up to date in terms of fashion, make up... Nowdays... U can't really tell the difference mostely...

[skender]

haha nice thanks man
i dont come to places to provoke people. when i come to skopje ill come to look around, enjoy some bars, pubs...but in the summer population should increase since all the immigrants come back home...at least thats what happens in tirana. its crazy in the summer

[dejan]

The media, particularly Western media, really enjoys in blowing things out of proportions, making a big deal of something so small and minor....but either way, what ever you hear, it's always best to ask someone who lives there.

[dewrob]

Originally Posted by skender

haha nice thanks man
i dont come to places to provoke people. when i come to skopje ill come to look around, enjoy some bars, pubs...but in the summer population should increase since all the immigrants come back home...at least thats what happens in tirana. its crazy in the summer

hehe I'm sure U wouldn't provoke man... I meant... don't try to attract attention for no reason... like... don't wear a UCK t-shirt or something lol

immigrants come back... but they all head to Ohrid man... Skopje is unbearable at summer... it's already too damn hot and the summer only started today officially....

As adition to what I wrote before... I just want to say... I'm not trying to paint a pretty picture how everything is soooooo nice in Macedonia... how we all love each other, we are all integrated blah blah... all I'm saying is that it only depends to the individual if he/she wants to mix with the other camp... or stay aside... it comes down only to personal choice nothing more... cause there are more than enough people that don't have problems with living together.... and no will bother to stop/prevent them from doing that...

[dejan]

Well for people like me, it's only Skopje and either a hotel or rent a room in somewhere like Ohrid:p

[GreatMakedon]

Djurob, wasnt the suberb of Cair 56% albanians-according to the new municipality borders (since before they shifted its borders the number of macedonians and albanians there was even)

[dewrob]

yeah something like that GM

[Sokol367]

Here's some interesting news.........

" Delta M company to invest over Euro 100,000 in Macedonia

Skopje, June 26 (MIA) - Serbian company Delta Holding will invest Euro 113 million in Macedonia for the next two years in construction of supermarket chain, distributing center and water bottling factory. Those projects should create conditions for opening of 2,300 jobs.

"Delta Holding intends to become a leader in the region," Company's Chairman Miroslav Miskovic said Monday, referring to the company's investing plans in Bosnia/Herzegovina and Montenegro.

Prime Minister Vlado Buckovski said that today's presentation of the Delta M in Macedonia (part of Delta Holding) was turning into reality a cooperation memo, signed last year.

The company's presence in Macedonia confirms the improvement of Macedonia's business climate the Government has worked on for the last few years, Buckovski added.

Delta Holding plans to invest a total of Euro 605 million in construction of multi-purpose facilities. "