How long will it be before Atlanta's MSA population surpasses Houston's

[Trae]

Originally Posted by Amd1588

But that is the SHIT that is in demand in other cities, if people didnt like the SHIT do you think it would be number one on all the charts? and its easy to ridicule something you dont have, and ill admit the artist that does do that type of music may not be the most intelligent or cultured people, but you really cant say theyre not talented. They got people back to doing what music originally was for.... dancing, and if it just so happens that its a problem then oh well. But id be willing to bet that if it came from houston, and you really could identity with it then youd be likinh it just as much as the rest of the WORLD that is buying this SHIT thats FUCKING GARBAGE, in your own envious words. The only thing i hate about the artist that does the music is that they dont realize how talented and valuble they are.

How much of the world knows who D4l, Franchise Boys, or the ddamn snap dance.

[Amd1588]

While i didnt say specifically D4L, youd be surprised. Houston forumers jealousy surely does baffels me. Why is it that a place that is larger and SO mych better than Atlanta alwasy lower itself to fighting and picking at it?

[Amd1588]

And still tell me why if the music is garbage, are they always at the top of the charts. I think its something terribly wrong with the message of the musc and the depiction of its artist, but what makes it garbage? Because i know a few other types of noise people consider music that id beg to differ.

[grapes]

Originally Posted by TexasBoi

Because Houston never appeal to the masses for that time. The music made for that city was never intended to be mainstream and they only changed it up a bit recently which is why the mainstream is looking at them now. And I hate every minute of it.

You will find it hard for people to agree with you on how Atlanta is underrated. Many feel Atlanta is overrated because of the garbage that stays on the radio waves coming from there. Such as that snap shit and yung joc. Houston is the one that is underrated along with Memphis. Atlanta has some great artists that made noise and are making noise like Outkast to Tight Man to Goodie Mob. But you have tooooo many bad artists that outweight the good such as the hot garbage i named including hitman sammy sam and the inconsistency that is pastor troy. Houston has more lyrical artists than Atlanta and Atlanta doesn't even have an identity. They either want to be Miami( booty shakin shit) to bouncing( New Orleans shit) to crunk( Memphis) and now are slowing down there flow( Houston).

yes,I know atl has the nod in the r&b scene. Some good, some bad, even though we were talking about hip hop.

Its so funny how you have all these reasons to why Houston failed to gain appeal...and at the same time, all these reasons to why atlanta has some how "tricked" the american ppl into buying their music mainstream....dude, just give credit where its due...Atlanta has it. Houston doesnt. Period. You made the statement "houston has more lyrical artist than atlanta..and atlanta doesnt even have an identity"...OK....AND YOURE THE ONLY ONE THAT BELIEVE THAT...your envy is so obvious. Yea...i dont necessarily like "snap your fingers"...but ppl across america is buying it....dont knock it...try it....but STOP ALL THESE EXCUSES TO WHY HOUSTON DOESNT HAVE...AND GIVE CREDIT TO THE ATLANTA MUSIC INDUSTRY...its second to none...

[TexasBoi]

Originally Posted by Amd1588

While i didnt say specifically D4L, youd be surprised. Houston forumers jealousy surely does baffels me. Why is it that a place that is larger and SO mych better than Atlanta alwasy lower itself to fighting and picking at it?

I'm not from Houston and I am not jealous of Atlanta seeing as how I defend the city on other forums so much. Just about all of the Houston people on here are not jealous of Atlanta one bit.

But you didn't have to say specifically d4l. there are more acts that are in the mainstream anybody can see for themselves.

the music is garbage. it has no substance, no point, no thought, no talent to perform it, horrible lyrics, horrible flow, consistently stupid songs. this shit is hot garbage. Go to the New York forum and see the thread East Coast Hip Hop and go to the 4th page and read on. You'll see what people outside the south thinks of the music.

[TexasBoi]

Originally Posted by grapes

Its so funny how you have all these reasons to why Houston failed to gain appeal...and at the same time, all these reasons to why atlanta has some how "tricked" the american ppl into buying their music mainstream

what the fuck does that have to do with the price of tea in china?

....dude, just give credit where its due...Atlanta has it. Houston doesnt. Period

hmm..well...the mainstream from both cities are still garbage..end of discussion

You made the statement "houston has more lyrical artist than atlanta..and atlanta doesnt even have an identity"...

I surely did

"...OK....AND YOURE THE ONLY ONE THAT BELIEVE THAT...your envy is so obvious. Yea...i dont necessarily like "snap your fingers"...but ppl across america is buying it....dont knock it...try it....but STOP ALL THESE EXCUSES TO WHY HOUSTON DOESNT HAVE...AND GIVE CREDIT TO THE ATLANTA MUSIC INDUSTRY...its second to none...

lmmfao@ second to none..yeah boost that garbage shit up. the shit is not selling across america. it's just selling across GEORGIA and neighboring states. Nobody is doing that shit west of the Mississippi and north of North Carolina. I know I have seen nobody up here in fuckin Washington, DC do that stupid shit. BTW, i'm not the only one to believe that but it's nice to see that you didnt deny that the city doesn't have a strong identity in hip hop.

have a nice night.

[Amd1588]

"Go to the New York forum and see the thread East Coast Hip Hop and go to the 4th page and read on."

I dont give a fuck what people in New York think about it, i gave my opinions about it, but for some reason you feel insecure about your feelings on it which is why you keep making refernces to others that dont like it. Like i said, this music may not be the greatsest in history, but it DOES take talent and only people that dont have it will be jealous of it. And you are kinda showing not just jealousy, but ignorance on this forum. How the fuck are you gonna call someones creation garbage, i dont give a fuck how bad it sounds to you. Also notice i never said anything to insult the MUSIC that comes from houston. I just sated the obvious that it doesnt have pop appeal. ANd that there are credible lyricist that comes from Atlanta, its just that demand for a certain type makes the others fade into oblivion. As far as the New Yorkers are concerned, who gives a FUCK about them? Obviously they dont have the knack for hip hop that theyre glorious forefathers did. If you really want to talk about garbage, lets talk about the plight of New YOrks TRue Hip hop to G-unit and Dip Set
At least the shit that comes out of Atlanta have soul, its just classless and demeaning to others because they are either jealous themselves because they dont have it, or their shit was worthless in the first place. Well all see what a vital role, Atlantas Garbage will play in culture in years to come. ITs all commercialism, the rappers are just pawns in this game.

[TexasBoi]

Originally Posted by Amd1588

I dont give a fuck what people in New York think about it, i gave my opinions about it, but for some reason you feel insecure about your feelings on it which is why you keep making refernces to others that dont like it.

I'm not insecure about a damn thing. This is the internet. I only gave you an example of what many think about when it comes to southern rap.

Like i said, this music may not be the greatsest in history, but it DOES take talent and only people that dont have it will be jealous of it.

Nobody is fuckin jealous of that shit. I like music with substance. You know, quality. I like to see more of the Goodie Mob's and Outkast's from the south because they make great music. More of them and less of franchise boys.

"I bounce in the club so the ho's call me Rocky,
Posted in the cut, and I'm lookin for a blockhead,
Yup in my white tee! I break a bitch back,
And I keep a big bank, oh I think dey like dat!
Before I leave the house, i'm slizzard on a goose"

Yep..realllllllllllllly talented there

And you are kinda showing not just jealousy, but ignorance on this forum.

so now we come down to name calling. pot calling the kettle black.

How the fuck are you gonna call someones creation garbage, i dont give a fuck how bad it sounds to you.

Well good for you. I, however do. You know how i can call someones music garbage. because i can.

Also notice i never said anything to insult the MUSIC that comes from houston. I just sated the obvious that it doesnt have pop appeal.

and I understand that. which is why i told you a good reason why Houston does not appeal to the mainstream. I didn't say anything about you insulting the MUSIC coming from Houston.

ANd that there are credible lyricist that comes from Atlanta, its just that demand for a certain type makes the others fade into oblivion.

Of course there is. We have named them throughout this the history of this thread. The problem with that is there are tooooo many bad lyricists that comes from Atlanta. You have your good one such as Ludacris, Outkast, and Goodie Mob, and Tight Man and you have your bad ones such as Yung Joc, Young Jeezy, Jody Breeze(he is decent sometimes), Dem Franchize Boys, etc. etc.


About your last post.I just hope Yankee boy or nobody else from the other forums see this post. They acknowledge that Dip Set( even though there is some talent in there) and Gunit is garbage. But NY is still the best to offer when it comes to hip hop and will continue to offer the best until the end of time.

[Geaux Tigers]

I thought this was a thread on Atlanta vs. Houston population growth?

[TexasBoi]

Yeah. apologize for steering the thread off track. Back to the point now. lol.

[Amd1588]

Still, its not about weather or not you thik they are good lyricist. The styl of the music obviouslly you cant relate to. That New York shit is LAME, which is why ALOT of them are coming down here to get there beats, obviously there must be some musical talent in the mist of Franchise,D4l, and YOung Joc(only D4l i like by the way). But youre tryna say they are all garbage and that shit aint true, what you are saying is ignorance. It must have some likable qualities 4 peole to like it. And not only that like ive said b4, id rather listen to that garbage when im out at the club or just having fun than any of that other bullshit you guys praise. Everyone seems to hate atlanta, because we are ouselves and dont give a fuck what anybody say. We are to busy being the capital of the south to worry about that bulllshit. Just as long as those New YOrk bustas keep buying those beats and asking lil jon to hook them up, then Atlanta will always be on top of our shit, and it really doesnt matter what anyone eles say. But i do feel like the reson there is such a clas between atlantas rap vs any other is because atlantas crunk rap serves a different purpose that say Nas, or Mos Def.
AS far as Houston is concerned i really havent heard any of that music, it just hasnt spread that far out of TexAS yet, sorry.
And besides New Yorkers have a inferiority complex anyway. They get jealous when anyone is successful other than them, because theyre the capital of the known universe. Hence the East coast west coast bullshit of the 90's.

[Amd1588]

Im so tired of typing, ive got errors outta my ass

[Amd1588]

"I thought this was a thread on Atlanta vs. Houston population growth?"

Fuck poulation growth, atlantas got that in the bag!!!

[Geaux Tigers]

Do you mind watching your language on a public forum?

[Amd1588]

Sure..................You know what, some the people on this site act real funny about certain things, i understand what youre saying, but hell no one is paying for their membership on here. SO if you dont like someones Language, why not just ignore it? And besides last time i checked this country guaranteed freedom of speech, do it not?

[grapes]

Originally Posted by TexasBoi

I'm not from Houston and I am not jealous of Atlanta seeing as how I defend the city on other forums so much. Just about all of the Houston people on here are not jealous of Atlanta one bit.

But you didn't have to say specifically d4l. there are more acts that are in the mainstream anybody can see for themselves.

the music is garbage. it has no substance, no point, no thought, no talent to perform it, horrible lyrics, horrible flow, consistently stupid songs. this shit is hot garbage. Go to the New York forum and see the thread East Coast Hip Hop and go to the 4th page and read on. You'll see what people outside the south thinks of the music.

youve failed to realize this...people from the east coast have always...and will always think their music is better...no matter if you put out good stuff...so, NO I WONT GO TO PAGE 4 TO READ WHAT OTHERS THINK....what i will do, is look at the billboard charts..i will look at the record sales...and the fact remains...these awful horrible flows sale...PERIOD...GET THAT IN YOUR THICK HEAD....

[TexasBoi]

Originally Posted by Amd1588

Still, its not about weather or not you thik they are good lyricist. The styl of the music obviouslly you cant relate to. That New York shit is LAME, which is why ALOT of them are coming down here to get there beats, obviously there must be some musical talent in the mist of Franchise,D4l, and YOung Joc(only D4l i like by the way). But youre tryna say they are all garbage and that shit aint true, what you are saying is ignorance. It must have some likable qualities 4 peole to like it.

It doesn't take much to like garbage. It requires little talent. Just get on the mic, say your little abc rhymes, and hey, you got a hit. My little cousin can do that. And i'm tired of the club excuse shit.

Everyone seems to hate atlanta, because we are ouselves and dont give a fuck what anybody say. We are to busy being the capital of the south to worry about that bulllshit.

Please, get over yourself. Atlanta gets as much hate as the rest of the south. And you're not the capital of anything other than Georgia. Your sphere doesn't reach anything west of the Mississippi.

Just as long as those New YOrk bustas keep buying those beats and asking lil jon to hook them up, then Atlanta will always be on top of our shit, and it really doesnt matter what anyone eles say. But i do feel like the reson there is such a clas between atlantas rap vs any other is because atlantas crunk rap serves a different purpose that say Nas, or Mos Def.

Not many New York rappers ask lil jon and what is lil jon doing presently anyway? They don't need them anyway when you have the heatmakers whose beats are sick themselves.

AS far as Houston is concerned i really havent heard any of that music, it just hasnt spread that far out of TexAS yet, sorry.

Home come it's reached in DC, Chicago, LA, and the Bay Area but not in Atlanta?

[TexasBoi]

Originally Posted by grapes

youve failed to realize this...people from the east coast have always...and will always think their music is better...no matter if you put out good stuff...so, NO I WONT GO TO PAGE 4 TO READ WHAT OTHERS THINK....what i will do, is look at the billboard charts..i will look at the record sales...and the fact remains...these awful horrible flows sale...PERIOD...GET THAT IN YOUR THICK HEAD....

Get this is your thick head. SALES MEAN SHIT. SALES is not the pinpoint in hip hop and most hip hop fans could give a shit about it. The south is dominating but we pump out the most garbage in the mainstream, end of story.

[Amd1588]

"Home come it's reached in DC, Chicago, LA, and the Bay Area but not in Atlanta?"

Because, DUH, Atlanta is the center of the universe. I would stop arguing for the music, because i do understand what you mean. But youre just not openminded about the situation, and is too hostile. You also make subjective statements that is garbage, and you know like i said it may not be the pinnacle of modern culture but it is not garbage and youre stupid for saying so! Its art, talent and creativity. Andif your cousin can make beats and come up with the hits, then tell him to jump on the bandwaggon and make millions with lil jon.....................Let me know when his album drop, will it be available on chopped and screwed?

[Trae]

Slowed music is reaching everywhere man, especially Los Angeles. My cousins have the S.L.A.B. and the S.U.C. And I brought them some Chalie Boy and DJ T-Rock.