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Old May 3rd, 2006, 03:24 AM   #1
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should the texans had took reggie bush

Do any of you feel the texans should have draft reggie bush? Many feel it will backfire on them. Williams is good but speed kills and reggie bush have speed
he is like a mini bo jackson. What do you texans fans feel about it?
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Old May 3rd, 2006, 04:16 AM   #2
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It's too late, anyway...he's a Saint, baby!!!!
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Old May 3rd, 2006, 04:30 AM   #3
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First, to answer the question, yes, they should've taken Bush.

But as for New Orleans they kinda screwed themselves over by signing Brees. Why not just count on using that 2nd overall pick on a QB? Now they have too many RBs and not enough QBs. They could have Young right now. I think that would've been far more ideal. They jumped the gun by signing Brees.

Back to the Texans, there's no logic to their pick whatsoever. It will backfire. This is not the next Julius Peppers. This guy may be the next Erik Flowers.
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Old May 3rd, 2006, 04:48 AM   #4
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Do any of you feel the texans should have draft reggie bush? Many feel it will backfire on them. Williams is good but speed kills and reggie bush have speed
he is like a mini bo jackson. What do you texans fans feel about it?
"should the texans had took reggie bush"

Why do so many people insist on using horrible grammar? I'm not a perfectionist, but come on... that is just ridiculous. Every time I see something like that, I become very sad about the state of our education system.
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Old May 3rd, 2006, 04:49 AM   #5
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First, to answer the question, yes, they should've taken Bush.

But as for New Orleans they kinda screwed themselves over by signing Brees. Why not just count on using that 2nd overall pick on a QB? Now they have too many RBs and not enough QBs. They could have Young right now. I think that would've been far more ideal. They jumped the gun by signing Brees.

Back to the Texans, there's no logic to their pick whatsoever. It will backfire. This is not the next Julius Peppers. This guy may be the next Erik Flowers.
Well, we're pretty pumped in New Orleans..we've got a great quarterback and a double attack in the backfield...btw...word is this will be the first season, in the Saints 40 year history that every single game will completely sell out before the season even starts!! Not bad for a city that many claimed was done after we got hit by a bad hurricane. Don't underestimate the stamina of a 300 year old city!!
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Old May 3rd, 2006, 05:04 AM   #6
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Also, Duece might not be their. He could be traded or dropped. How do the Saints have enough money? McAllister and Horn just signed new contracts. Along with Brees, and Bush wanting fifty millions?? The Saints don't have money for this, some of their players are on food stamps . But still, their are about 47 other people that need to get paid, and if Bush signs like that, some of their players will be on food stamps.

A side note, if and when the Saints move to L.A., Bush would be right at home.

And for Peyton, Bryon, and Young, get ready for the house of pain. Super Mario WILL be the next Julius Peppers. Even their college career stats are the same. The Texans have made a good choice.

Reggie loves it, too:
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Old May 3rd, 2006, 05:12 AM   #7
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NO. But they should have traded down that pick and picked up Ferguson. But I've said many times before the draft that they didn't need Reggie. They need olineman. They have 2 very capable backs and a decent qb but they never even had a below average oline in franchise history.
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Old May 3rd, 2006, 05:22 AM   #8
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Also, Duece might not be their. He could be traded or dropped. How do the Saints have enough money? McAllister and Horn just signed new contracts. Along with Brees, and Bush wanting fifty millions?? The Saints don't have money for this, some of their players are on food stamps . But still, their are about 47 other people that need to get paid, and if Bush signs like that, some of their players will be on food stamps.

A side note, if and when the Saints move to L.A., Bush would be right at home.

And for Peyton, Bryon, and Young, get ready for the house of pain. Super Mario WILL be the next Julius Peppers. Even their college career stats are the same. The Texans have made a good choice.

Reggie loves it, too:
Not sure....I know that when it comes to the cap, the Saints (before this season), were at the tops in the NFL in maneuvuring room...so the $$$ were definitely there for them to juggle things around, and I'm happy with the decisions I've seen thus far...BTW...the Saints are going nowhere...not anytime in the next decade. The ticket sales and suite sales since the announcement of their return to New Orleans are about as good as the Washington Redskins (almost). For them to sell every seat in the entire Superdome to season tickets, which is just around the corner, certainly seals their fate in New Orleans.
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Old May 3rd, 2006, 06:04 AM   #9
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the saints sucked with Ricky Williams, who was far better than Reggie Bush...i think they'll still be terrible next season too
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Old May 3rd, 2006, 06:12 AM   #10
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the saints sucked with Ricky Williams, who was far better than Reggie Bush...i think they'll still be terrible next season too
We'll see...I doubt Bush will be the pot-head delinquent that Williams has been ever since he got out of college. I think the Saints will be a promising team next season.
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Old May 3rd, 2006, 06:23 AM   #11
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the saints sucked with Ricky Williams, who was far better than Reggie Bush...i think they'll still be terrible next season too
The 2006 Saints team, especially the offense, is very different from when Ricky Williams was here. In '99, Ricky Williams was basically the only guy with any talent on offense, the Saints now have Drew Brees, Joe Horn, Donte Stallworth, Deuce McAllister, Michael Bennet, and now Reggie Bush. The only player on that list who played with Williams was Horn. And Ricky Williams wasn't the threat on offense that Bush is/can be. You can have Bush in the backfield as a runner or a blocker, he is a fantastic reciever, and he's even better on special teams. He's extremely dangerous nearly any time he gets his hands on the ball, while Ricky seemed to drop half the passes thrown to him and never played ST. And I agree with Sean, I think the Saints will be an improved and promising team next year, especially now that they have better coaching, better leadership, and more talent than they've had maybe ever.
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Old May 3rd, 2006, 08:58 AM   #12
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the saints sucked with Ricky Williams, who was far better than Reggie Bush...i think they'll still be terrible next season too
Soulbrotha, I've lost all respect for you, thinking that Rickey Williams was better than Reggie Bush. First the project living talk... now this. Unbelievable. Just kidding of course... but with a name like that... go eat you some black eyed peas.
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Old May 3rd, 2006, 01:53 PM   #13
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Reggie Bush will be a great multi-purpose weapon. I can imagine offensive sets with him and Deuce in the backfield and then he goes in motion and splits out, in essence becoming a receiver. You can get very creative with a guy like Bush.

That being said, New Orleans wasn't at a loss for offense last year or really for the past five years. They need DEFENSE. They had Mario Williams practically penciled in as a starter before the Texans came along and mess up that plan. So now you have a high-paid quarterback, TWO stud runningbacks, a stud receiver, and a good offensive supporting cast...very expensive offense. Not enough defense. Eventually that has to balance itself out so I'm not sure how long we're going to see Deuce and Reggie on the same team.
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Old May 3rd, 2006, 02:37 PM   #14
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Hey, that was a cheap shot.

And I believe that the Texans were smart in picking Mario Williams instead of banking everything on Bush, although I think he'll be a superstar runnung back
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Old May 3rd, 2006, 03:16 PM   #15
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Hell yeah they should have taken Bush! I loved the rest of their draft, especially stealing Demeco Ryans in the 2nd round. However, not taking Bush just tainted their draft to me. I dont care how many "capable" backs you have, you dont pass up a Reggie Bush! I wanted Young in the first place but once they picked up Carr's contract in February I knew this wasnt going to happed and conceded that Bush would be a hell of a consulation. Then they go and do this dumb crap! All I have to say is this is Thurman Thomas times 6! Anyone that was an old Oilers fan should know what Im talking about there. A Houston talent the Oilers let slip away to Buffalo for Lorenzo White!
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Reggie Bush will be a great multi-purpose weapon. I can imagine offensive sets with him and Deuce in the backfield and then he goes in motion and splits out, in essence becoming a receiver. You can get very creative with a guy like Bush.

That being said, New Orleans wasn't at a loss for offense last year or really for the past five years. They need DEFENSE. They had Mario Williams practically penciled in as a starter before the Texans came along and mess up that plan. So now you have a high-paid quarterback, TWO stud runningbacks, a stud receiver, and a good offensive supporting cast...very expensive offense. Not enough defense. Eventually that has to balance itself out so I'm not sure how long we're going to see Deuce and Reggie on the same team.
lol the colts had one of the best quarterbacks, running backs, receiver, and coaches and still didn't make it to the superbowl. If a team isn't used to winning, i doubt one person coming in is going to make a big difference. sorry, i realize the saints being good will uplift new orleans and everything, but the saints will always represent one of the worst football teams in the NFL to me.

Ricky Williams Vs Reggie Bush

Ricky


Williams holds or shares 20 NCAA records, and became the NCAA career rushing leader in 1998 with 6,279 yards (broken one year later by University of Wisconsin's Ron Dayne). He also broke the NCAA division 1A career rushing touchdowns and career scoring records in 1998 with 73 and 452 respectively (topped one year later by Miami University's Travis Prentice). Williams won the 64th Heisman Trophy, becoming the second Texas Longhorn to win this honor, joining Earl Campbell.

Bush


As a sophomore in 2004, Bush amassed 2,330 all-purpose yards, the most ever gained by a Trojan player since Marcus Allen gained a school record 2,683 yards in his Heisman trophy winning season of 1981, and scored 15 touchdowns (6 rushing, 7 receiving, 2 kickoff returns). He has lost only three fumbles in his college career, the first time against UCLA in 2004, the second in the Fresno State game in 2005, and the third against Texas in the 2006 Rose Bowl, though some believe it was a forward lateral.
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Old May 4th, 2006, 03:35 AM   #17
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Why did the Texans need Ferguson? We already got Winston and Spencer both, as a steal in the 3rd round.

And does anyone remember the last time Bush came to help N.O?

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williams crapped out right from the beginning.
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I didn't know that football and urban cities are the same thing.
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I didn't know that football and urban cities are the same thing.
It, actually is...when you live in pro sports cities it truly becomes a part of your culture. It's harmless to post this, so, I'll go ahead and tell you guys, if you want to discuss and argue with the best of them go to www.saintsreport.com . You'll get your NFL and Saints fill for days from hundreds who do nothing but talk about it all day and all night!!!
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