1 Hardman Square | Spinningfields - Page 5

skit_uk · November 19th, 2005, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Irish Blood English Heart

See how the canopy comes out of the black stripe, is there another one higher up on the other side?

I do like the canopy idea mind....

I think it's actually at the same level. The other side is stepped back. I'm not sure the other side would need a canopy because the prevailing winds blow from the near side

inquisitor57 · November 19th, 2005, 08:29 PM

They changed the design due to the amount of wind it created around the base of the building (that sounds weird but I don't know any technical terms, sorry!). I'm pretty sure they could have remedied it in a more subtle way than simply putting a shield up, I mean even I could do better than that!

jrb · April 29th, 2006, 11:11 PM

Please remind me how many years we've been waiting for the design to be finalised? I know we'll probably find out more in June at the Allied London/Spinninfields open day, but what can the hold up be? Any ideas?

andysimo123 · April 30th, 2006, 01:02 AM

Office takers, Money, structural problems, people not meeting dead lines so they get fired and it has to be done again. It could be anything.

highriser · April 30th, 2006, 01:13 AM

I dont think there as been any hold up, 1HS is going to be the final building in Spinningfeilds to be built,,the next to be built will be 3Hardman St , and the Hardman Blvd one next to CJC ,,but i do think we will hear something about it this year,Allied London are doing a fantastic job atm , there are delivering there promises, more than i can say about other un-named developers.

WeasteDevil · April 30th, 2006, 02:11 AM

My prediction is that it will not be a box, and it will be stunning. 200m ish!

skymann · April 30th, 2006, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by WeasteDevil

My prediction is that it will not be a box, and it will be stunning. 200m ish!

fingers crossed

future.architect · April 30th, 2006, 03:29 PM

or it could just be a stunning 200 metre high box? i hope not

BeardedGenius · May 3rd, 2006, 02:59 PM

Is/was this ever in the pipeline for 1HS? (I'm sorry - I'm terribly behind the times...)

Surely it's about time Foster produced something stunning for his native city...

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1 Hardman Square
2004-03-05

Reported by Jonathan Smith

News: Manchester set for Norman Foster skyscraper

Manchester: The world renowned architectural firm Foster and Partners is set to transform the skyline of the city of Manchester with a stunning 35-storey office tower.

The building, known as 1 Hardman Square, is part of Allied London's mixed-use Spinningfields development, a high profile scheme that has been charged with transforming Manchester into an office location of international significance. Foster has penned four buildings for the next stages of the scheme, totalling 140,000sq m of offices and retail space centred on a new public space.

The tower itself is a 35-storey triangular glass tower, with twin spires and a raking roofline that echoes Manchester's recent high-rise vernacular, as seen in No.1 Deansgate, Great Northern Tower and The Edge. The scheme appears to include a second tower of approximately 20 storeys, identical to the taller tower in design.

1 Hardman Square follows hot on the hells of Beetham Tower, a 47-storey mixed-use tower designed by Ian Simpson Architects that is already under construction, and promises to add yet another exciting modern landmark to Manchester's skyline. A planning application is expected to be submitted in the summer.

Farsight · May 3rd, 2006, 03:32 PM

It was, but IMHO the triangular shape was impractical/inefficient/uneconomic in that it reduced the floorplates and threw away half the usable space. The latest design I saw is a green mirrorglass rectangle about forty stories high, kinda the same height as Beetham but twice as wide. See the 1 Hardman Square thread on page 2 of the threads list.

Jongeman · May 3rd, 2006, 03:45 PM

Cheers BG, it is about time Foster produced his piece de resistance pour Manchester.

That proposal is really odd, Farsight. I've never before been aware of a building with a canopy to deflect downdrafts, if that is what it's for....?

Sir Miles Platting · May 3rd, 2006, 04:11 PM

This building makes the Opera House to its right look tiny.
Is it possible that the canopy provides a rain shelter (for the forecourt) as well as negating down draughts?

BeardedGenius · May 3rd, 2006, 04:13 PM

Thanks Farsight. Not sure about that design at all. Quite disappointed if truth be told. I know it's not the final design, but it's hardly inspiring.

Jongeman · May 3rd, 2006, 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sir Miles Platting

This building makes the Opera House to its right look tiny.
Is it possible that the canopy provides a rain shelter (for the forecourt) as well as negating down draughts?

No idea mate, somebody will pipe up soon and tell us. I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that it was something to do with wind.

Sir Miles Platting · May 3rd, 2006, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Jongeman

No idea mate, somebody will pipe up soon and tell us. I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that it was something to do with wind.

Yeh, I'm 'avin a bit of a flatulence problem meself these days...

BeardedGenius · May 3rd, 2006, 04:36 PM

I was hoping we'd get something stunning like the gherkin or this:

DAVE_B · May 3rd, 2006, 05:19 PM

Im confident the final design will av more of a wow appeal to it, looks like the area where 1hs is to be built is a bit on the narrow side so that could possibly limit shape, but then again beetham is quite narrow

Isaac Newell · May 3rd, 2006, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by BeardedGenius

I was hoping we'd get something stunning like the gherkin or this:

that's a bit like this

kids · May 3rd, 2006, 06:12 PM

Perhaps those are just concept renders.

We'll probably get the latest info at the spinny open day. To be honest I'm pretty confident in this one. It's gonna be good.

skymann · May 3rd, 2006, 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BeardedGenius

I was hoping we'd get something stunning like the gherkin or this:

Oh yes please.

November 19th, 2005, 08:29 PM	#82
inquisitor57 No more heroes anymore Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Leicester/Manchester Posts: 415	Sub-par They changed the design due to the amount of wind it created around the base of the building (that sounds weird but I don't know any technical terms, sorry!). I'm pretty sure they could have remedied it in a more subtle way than simply putting a shield up, I mean even I could do better than that!

April 30th, 2006, 02:11 AM	#86
WeasteDevil Salford Red Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Salford in Castellon Posts: 1,544	My prediction is that it will not be a box, and it will be stunning. 200m ish! __________________ "Manchester is the only English city which can look London in the face, not merely as a regional capital but as a rival version of how men should live in a community." - AJP Taylor

April 30th, 2006, 03:29 PM	#88
future.architect Has left the Building Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 2,205	or it could just be a stunning 200 metre high box? i hope not __________________ Au revoir, i've gone.

May 3rd, 2006, 04:13 PM	#93
BeardedGenius Clean-shaven and foolish Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 1,356	Thanks Farsight. Not sure about that design at all. Quite disappointed if truth be told. I know it's not the final design, but it's hardly inspiring. __________________ "I feel close to the rebelliousness and vigour of the youth here. Perhaps time will seperate us, but nobody can deny that here, behind the windows of Manchester, there is an insane love of football, of celebration and of music." Eric Daniel Pierre Cantona

May 3rd, 2006, 04:36 PM	#96
BeardedGenius Clean-shaven and foolish Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 1,356	I was hoping we'd get something stunning like the gherkin or this: __________________ "I feel close to the rebelliousness and vigour of the youth here. Perhaps time will seperate us, but nobody can deny that here, behind the windows of Manchester, there is an insane love of football, of celebration and of music." Eric Daniel Pierre Cantona

April 29th, 2006, 11:11 PM	#83
jrb 10th February 2008 Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Manchester Posts: 15,422	Please remind me how many years we've been waiting for the design to be finalised? I know we'll probably find out more in June at the Allied London/Spinninfields open day, but what can the hold up be? Any ideas?

April 30th, 2006, 01:02 AM	#84
andysimo123 wind-up merchant Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 13,858	Office takers, Money, structural problems, people not meeting dead lines so they get fired and it has to be done again. It could be anything.

April 30th, 2006, 01:13 AM	#85
highriser Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 3,902	I dont think there as been any hold up, 1HS is going to be the final building in Spinningfeilds to be built,,the next to be built will be 3Hardman St , and the Hardman Blvd one next to CJC ,,but i do think we will hear something about it this year,Allied London are doing a fantastic job atm , there are delivering there promises, more than i can say about other un-named developers.

May 3rd, 2006, 03:32 PM	#90
Farsight Registered User Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 2,648	It was, but IMHO the triangular shape was impractical/inefficient/uneconomic in that it reduced the floorplates and threw away half the usable space. The latest design I saw is a green mirrorglass rectangle about forty stories high, kinda the same height as Beetham but twice as wide. See the 1 Hardman Square thread on page 2 of the threads list.

May 3rd, 2006, 03:45 PM	#91
Jongeman van het noorden Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Far East Manchester Posts: 1,496	Cheers BG, it is about time Foster produced his piece de resistance pour Manchester. That proposal is really odd, Farsight. I've never before been aware of a building with a canopy to deflect downdrafts, if that is what it's for....?

May 3rd, 2006, 04:11 PM	#92
Sir Miles Platting Registered User Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 2,348	This building makes the Opera House to its right look tiny. Is it possible that the canopy provides a rain shelter (for the forecourt) as well as negating down draughts?

May 3rd, 2006, 05:19 PM	#97
DAVE_B Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Leigh, Gtr Manchester Posts: 16	Im confident the final design will av more of a wow appeal to it, looks like the area where 1hs is to be built is a bit on the narrow side so that could possibly limit shape, but then again beetham is quite narrow __________________ ON THE UP

May 3rd, 2006, 06:12 PM	#99
kids On the Contrary Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,393	Perhaps those are just concept renders. We'll probably get the latest info at the spinny open day. To be honest I'm pretty confident in this one. It's gonna be good.

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