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Old July 4th, 2011, 07:52 PM   #6001
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That is a nice building. Much better than the old Tokyo Tower.
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Old July 4th, 2011, 07:58 PM   #6002
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from an aesthetic pov, Tokyo Tower is more beautiful than Tokyo Sky Tree, imo...But of course they're both marvelous structures regardless....
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Old July 4th, 2011, 08:37 PM   #6003
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Does anybody know when this tower will be open to the public? I seem to remember spring 2012, but not sure which month.

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Old July 4th, 2011, 09:48 PM   #6004
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The grand opening will be on 22 May 2012.
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Old July 5th, 2011, 01:39 AM   #6005
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Was another crane removed? I see only two on these pictures but the tower itself might be blocking the third one from that perspective.
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Old July 5th, 2011, 07:22 AM   #6006
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There are only 2 cranes left.


From the right angle you can see only 1 crane:


http://tokyo-sky-tree.seesaa.net/
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Old July 5th, 2011, 07:24 AM   #6007
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wow...amazing, love this tower
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Old July 5th, 2011, 09:19 AM   #6008
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This looks like a mighty fine tower.
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Old July 5th, 2011, 12:30 PM   #6009
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You know how the Tokyo Tower is no longer tall enough to give complete digital terrestrial television broadcasting coverage because it is surrounded by many high-rise buildings? Well, it is hoped that the Tokyo Sky Tree would not be obscured by high rise buildings, also. Should there be any restrictions regarding this?
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Old July 5th, 2011, 10:39 PM   #6010
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The best restriction is the economy. Since the tower is so tall other buildings also have to be very tall to create a problem, the chance that any supertall skyscrapers will be built in this part of town in the next couple of decades or probably even ever is very slim.

But I'm sure that when developers do come with very tall plans in the direct surroundings of the Sky Tree it will have problems getting planning permission.
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Old July 5th, 2011, 11:29 PM   #6011
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No, sir, I think there needs to be a height restriction.
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Old July 5th, 2011, 11:47 PM   #6012
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You're not going to decide on building a 300M building by it's effect on broadcast transmissions. They'd just add a low power supplemental repeater somewhere to cover any shadow that was created.
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Old July 6th, 2011, 12:24 AM   #6013
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Old July 6th, 2011, 07:37 AM   #6014
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You're not going to decide on building a 300M building by it's effect on broadcast transmissions. They'd just add a low power supplemental repeater somewhere to cover any shadow that was created.
One building is also not a problem, it's a skyline that is causing the problems with the antennas on the Tokyo Tower.
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No, sir, I think there needs to be a height restriction.
OK, lets decide a theoretical height restriction.

The digital TV antennas of the Tokyo Tower are placed just above the 2nd observation deck at 250m. The buildings around the tower that cause the problems are between 150 and 250m tall.

The antenna's of the Sky Tree are located between 550m and the top. I guess a height restriction of 450m would be enough for an area of 1 km around the tower, then you have reached the area that already has a height restriction because of Haneda Airport.

But it's all theoretical since there won't be any other supertall developments anyway.


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Old July 6th, 2011, 08:46 AM   #6015
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You know how the Tokyo Tower is no longer tall enough to give complete digital terrestrial television broadcasting coverage because it is surrounded by many high-rise buildings? Well, it is hoped that the Tokyo Sky Tree would not be obscured by high rise buildings, also. Should there be any restrictions regarding this?
My friend. I have to disagree with you. I hope one day, Tokyo Sky Tree will be surrounded by skyscrapers so that they have to build an even TALLER Tower XD

But that probably won't ever happen. And if it does, it won't be in our lifetimes :p
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Old July 6th, 2011, 07:23 PM   #6016
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^True. Japan's engineering requirements to guard against earthquakes make any supertall office/residential construction very uneconomical right now. Someday in the distant future, when the whole city is filled with things like Tokyo Midtown and the Roppongi Hills Mori Tower, then maybe there will be more of a push for even taller buildings. For now, no further regulations are necessary to prevent construction that the market won't generally provide for anyway, especially not in Sumida.
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Old July 6th, 2011, 08:58 PM   #6017
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For now it's mostly the height restriction because of Haneda airport are holding back the super tall development in central Tokyo. Seeing so many new towers around Tokyo Station and in the Roppongi/Toranoman/Asakasa area that are going up to the max allowed under the restrictions there would have been a couple of supertalls by now if the height was unrestricted.

There's also a tendency in the office market for smaller buildings, single buildings for 1 or a couple of occupants. That's reflected in the high standard of these offices, there 200m developments that just have 33 floors. You got the height but not that much floor space. It's the luxury and big floors that are popular right now, and not so much to be the highest office in town. I would also say that the height restriction would have been contended by the powerful develepers like Mori Builidng and Mitsui Fudosan if it was really economical to do so. The Japanese bureaucracy also makes it hard to change this. The costs of making the buildings earthquake proof do play a part in this of course, but I don't think it will be that much higher for a 300m high tower then for a 250m high tower.

The more conservative office developments also have their roots in the aftermath of the collapse of the property bubble. The developers are simply not going wild anymore, even though Tokyo still has the highest office prices in the world. Another bubble will be the blow for the economy and therefor also for the developers.
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Old July 7th, 2011, 03:22 AM   #6018
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Wow...amazing,it's great true!!!
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Old July 7th, 2011, 04:00 AM   #6019
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Looks wonderful. I'm really looking forward to the grand opening next year.

Btw, when are the works on the canal/river due for completion?
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My friend. I have to disagree with you. I hope one day, Tokyo Sky Tree will be surrounded by skyscrapers so that they have to build an even TALLER Tower XD

But that probably won't ever happen. And if it does, it won't be in our lifetimes :p
The Sky Tree must not be heavily obscured by any very large skyscrapers, so New height restriction in the Sumida ward, no building taller than 100-150 m can be constructed in Sumida-ku.
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