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Old November 23rd, 2011, 05:36 AM   #6301
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Old November 23rd, 2011, 01:22 PM   #6302
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A spire/antenna that is broader at the top than it is at the bottom just doesn't look right.
Despite having such an interleaved, messy look that totally lacks architectural harmony and slenderness towards the top.
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In contrast to CN Tower:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:To...bei_Nacht2.jpg

...or Space Needle:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Y_...e-at-Night.jpg

...or Tokyo Tower for instance.

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fi...een_hills2.jpg
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Old November 23rd, 2011, 01:36 PM   #6303
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I agree with Erbse! Elegance or beauty is something different...
The top part is so irregularly ragged, that it doesn't form any recognizable shape, like the iconic shapes of Tokyo Tower, CN Tower or Berlin TV Tower do. IMHO there is not much artistic value at all. It seems to be designed as a functional building. It's only special feature is, that it's huuuuge...

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Old November 23rd, 2011, 05:43 PM   #6304
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Sky Tree takes opening reservations

The operator of the 634-meter-tall Tokyo Sky Tree going up in Sumida Ward started accepting entrance ticket reservations Tuesday, six months before the planned opening of the world's tallest antenna structure.

By 11:45 a.m., more than 300 groups had already sent application forms by fax to the operator's office in Tokyo. The tower, which has been registered by Guinness World Records, is already popular with locals long before the grand opening on May 22.

Source: http://www.japantimes.co.jp/text/nn20111123a8.html?


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Old November 23rd, 2011, 07:15 PM   #6305
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A spire/antenna that is broader at the top than it is at the bottom just doesn't look right.
Despite having such an interleaved, messy look that totally lacks architectural harmony and slenderness towards the top.
You are free to have your opinion of course I am not going to argue about whether it looks good or not..just about the "icon status". You don't have to look the best to be an icon...there's many examples of that around the world. Sky Tree is so dominating and will look very nice at night (Tokyo is a night city) that it basically already is the de-facto icon of Tokyo.

Anyway hopefully the next posts can be about the ongoing construction and not Tokyo Tower, Spaceneedle or whatever..
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Old November 23rd, 2011, 07:20 PM   #6306
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Spaceneedle is such an icon. So unique, so retro.
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Old November 23rd, 2011, 07:43 PM   #6307
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Tokyo Sky Tree is the perfect symbol of the 21st century Tokyo. I love it even though initially i was a little bit skeptical not so much about its design, but for the location.
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Old November 23rd, 2011, 11:13 PM   #6308
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the spire being broader at top has this industrial look to me. i really like it though, it is unique on a tower of this height.
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Old November 24th, 2011, 01:30 AM   #6309
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Function and practicalities with things such as available land, earthquake proofing, 1 in 1,000 year typhoon resistance, etc ... are strongly influencing the form for this structure and with this in mind, the design is very good - both aesthetically and functionally.
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Old November 24th, 2011, 01:58 AM   #6310
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IMO not every tower or building has to taper to the top to look good. TST kinda goes against the constant trend of tappering till the smallest width

Looks soo awesome, and thnx for evryone for posting pics, looks so much bigger than when i saw it myself when it was only 245m
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Old November 24th, 2011, 03:12 PM   #6311
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im didnt quite like it
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Old November 24th, 2011, 03:50 PM   #6312
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What a wonderful towers.
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Old November 25th, 2011, 05:05 PM   #6313
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スカイツリーと不忍池 by lyo, on Flickr
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Old November 25th, 2011, 05:12 PM   #6314
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"icon status". You don't have to look the best to be an icon...there's many examples of that around the world. Sky Tree is so dominating and will look very nice at night (Tokyo is a night city) that it basically already is the de-facto icon of Tokyo.
Neither height nor architecture is necessarily an indicator for an "icon status".

Take Tour Montparnasse in Paris as an example. Or the overwhelmingly huge Ostankino Tower in Moscow - not quite a beauty and thus never received something like an icon status, even though being really dominating and unique in design terms.

I'm just saying I wouldn't expect Tokyo Sky Tree to do a lot for the city being an icon, a landmark or something that will get a lot of international recognition. It may serve its functions well once completed, but not much more.

That's just my objection so please refrain from argueing too hard, thanks.
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Old November 25th, 2011, 11:13 PM   #6315
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^

I agree. The only supertall structures that can truly be used as identifiers for cities are the Empire State Building, Chrysler Building, the Effiel Tower and possibly the former World Trade Center. Otherwise, identifiers for cities are usually much smaller (the Statue of Liberty and the Sydney Oprah House for instance).

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Old November 26th, 2011, 01:34 AM   #6316
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That's just my objection so please refrain from argueing too hard, thanks.
Aren't you the one posting pictures and links of other towers in a construction thread? I think it's better not to make rigid statements like "will remain..." because it seems like you are stating a fact instead of an opinion. Anyway the most important thing is that many people already see it as an icon, especialy Tokyo natives..whether everyone will is another story.
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Old November 26th, 2011, 01:57 AM   #6317
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All what you guys are talking about is subjective, there's no need to make an argument about this.

It looks good to me, even the thick antennae makes it look better for my taste, very unique and different from the tendency that the rest of this kind towers have around the world.

Cheers for Tokyo
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Old November 26th, 2011, 05:01 AM   #6318
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Hi all.

The BK was to have a top platform twice the width of the pinnacle.
Someone didn't like it so now it is down inside the pinnacle so the structure tapers down to a point, per se.
Either design looked good to me.

Same goes with this project, either way would be OK.
I like the design of this tower. Like the Canton tower, it looks great and like the Canton tower is already an icon for its city IMO.


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Old November 26th, 2011, 06:14 AM   #6319
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Hold on,
if this building is like CN tower, and CN tower is not a building it is a tower,then why would Tokyo Sky tree be considered a supertall building?
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Old November 26th, 2011, 06:39 AM   #6320
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^It's not a supertall building. It's just listed here because it's a supertall structure and there isn't a separate forum page for TV Towers, and I doubt there are even that many TV Towers going up to even justify making a separate page.
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