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Old August 21st, 2007, 06:47 PM   #181
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Old August 21st, 2007, 09:34 PM   #182
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Look it is a beautiful skyscraper but china forces thousands of people every year out of their homes. Sometimes the just buldoze them away. I think its a good thing that these people show that its their right to live here.

On the other hand it would be very pity if this building gets rejected because of this. I hope these people get a nice new house but i doubt it, you know its china
The Chinese government do require developers to rehouse the residents with comparable property. These people are usually given brand new apartments in another location of the city.

It is legal in China for the government to mandate a move, because land in China are always possessed by the government. People who buy houses/apartments only purchase the building it self, but the building is still sitting on government land, which is given out as a lease.

Which is why the Chinese government can legally remove the residents from their home, given that the people are provided proper compensation of samiliar dollar value. Not everybody wins in this, but it's a price you have to pay for redevelopment.

The person who lives in the pink building will surely loose the case. But they will not be arrested for protesting, nor will they bulldoze through the building while the home is still situated in side of it. Common law in China states that any invasion of a person's property or safety can be retaliated with force necessary to halt the invading action. Which means if they drive a bulldozer towards the buidling, the residents of that building can legally destory the bulldozer with a RPG. However the process of acquiring that RPG may not be legal, which will have consequences.
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Old August 25th, 2007, 07:20 AM   #183
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The court has recently accepted to deal with the case.

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Old September 5th, 2007, 08:08 PM   #184
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awesome!!!!
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Old September 6th, 2007, 09:41 AM   #185
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when will this be uc
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Old September 6th, 2007, 09:17 PM   #186
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not sure but i believe they'll start early 2008
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Old September 25th, 2007, 07:51 AM   #187
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Old September 25th, 2007, 11:43 AM   #188
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Old September 25th, 2007, 11:19 PM   #189
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What A beauty! when its finished and in Rate out talls, Im giving it a 10/10!
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Old September 30th, 2007, 12:41 PM   #190
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http://news.sohu.com/20070930/n252438166.shtml



The owner of this house has agreed to move out...

An compensation of around 17Million yuan has already been payed by Kingkey Corporation. The house will be removed in mid October
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Old September 30th, 2007, 12:59 PM   #191
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Old October 1st, 2007, 12:06 AM   #192
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Looks absolutely cool.
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Old October 1st, 2007, 04:17 AM   #193
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Final design:

If this tower is not different then "Kingkey Finance & Culture Centre, Shenzhen" then the design is not the above but this



Source: http://www.terryfarrell.com.hk/proje...kingkeyFin.php

I have searched the web for hours now and as it turns out Kingkey Finance Center Plaza &
Kingkey Finance & Culture Centre are one and the same.

Can someone please confirm if this is not correct and please provide a source!


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Old October 1st, 2007, 04:20 AM   #194
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You posted the old version, but I have no source to prove it
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Old October 1st, 2007, 04:39 AM   #195
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that's ok z0rg - then can we presume that the link i provided from architect website, simply is still showing the old design and not new one, and the name of the project also changed and architect website did not update it?

http://www.terryfarrell.com.hk/proje...kingkeyFin.php

BTW, is there a dedicated website for this project?

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Old October 1st, 2007, 05:13 AM   #196
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that's ok z0rg - then can we presume that the link i provided from architect website, simply is still showing the old design and not new one, and the name of the project also changed and architect website did not update it?

http://www.terryfarrell.com.hk/proje...kingkeyFin.php

BTW, is there a dedicated website for this project?
Oh, at least you can find "something" about this project. Other firms constructing supertalls in China don't have the project listed on their website. For example, NBBJ is building a 384m tower in Dalian, but its profile wasn't added until this week, I've been checking. SOM hasn't listed this one yet, and it is u/c too.

On the other hand, other firms such as John Portman are listing supertalls like this one as "work in progress", but it was rejected many years ago.

It is even more complicated when the project is being designed by a Chinese firm, often you wont be able to find any kind of information excepting some unclear press notes, no matter how big the project is.

This is why China is so freaking uncovered on Emporis, ssp, etc
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Old October 1st, 2007, 05:52 AM   #197
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Yah you are right.. I just was not sure which was the right rendering so i figured I ask here...

BTW, did you hear that the Lady owner of the old building in middle of the plot got 17 million yuan? US$ 2.3 million in compensation as-per court ruling this past week - crazy, eh!
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Old October 1st, 2007, 06:03 AM   #198
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Very serious and unexpected, it goes far beyond a reasonable compensation. The greed of a few oportunists vs the development of the country. I can't believe China is starting to support the former ones.
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Old October 1st, 2007, 09:05 AM   #199
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that's the price to pay for China is becoming more and more "democratic". Hope China can finish all its infrastructure constructions before it becomes a full democratic country.
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Old October 1st, 2007, 09:42 AM   #200
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wow, this is the first time i am seeing this!!! amazing!!!!
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