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Why we are so yokels? When we have a top trainer as Luxa, we despise him and we press until the club throw him. We only stand the mediocre trainers; we said that they are humbles, they feel Real Madrid in his heart,... garbage!!
We must be clear, Lopez Caro has no idea of what elite football means, is a poor man used by the club to stop the critiques in the short term. I bet that in January he will return to the reserves team. We have been lucky because Arsenal was the most weakest team to whom we could face, but Arsenal is even more luckier because Real Madrid: +has a lost trainer who does not orders on nobody, a marionette. +we are blinded, we want that reserves play in the first team and they are not at the level of the first division. +we play every game as visitors, even in Bernabéu. We have 80.000 members that seems they enjoy whistling to the team and pressing the players. zaqattaq, I think that say that Barça is the best team in the world is a free opinion. First, they will have to demonstrate it with titles (I am talking about being a winning team and not win a league and continuing sleeping 5 years more, we will see); secondly, they continue without hooking the supporters (61.000 supportes last game in a 98.00 stadium), ¿what is happening?; and thirdly, there is only two teams that offer safety and witness and the name are Juventus and Chelsea (sorry but it's my opinion ), the others can win and lose against anyone.
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BANNED
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Eli, the media threw Luxa and some of the brazilian players to the angry mob. Yes, the same media that a year ago put Luxa in the Mount Olympus.
The Bernabeu spectators are very driven. They don't have any personality at all... Look, there's still many people that whistles Ronaldo every single time he touches the ball. There's a difference between a corporation and a football club: The fanatic and media driven supporters. That's the big issue with Real Madrid today. We must clean those bastards from the Bernabeu grades. Besides, they pay in some cases a respectable amount of money for their tickets and the only thing they do is to whistle. Poor brainless bastards... |
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Whats wrong with just training at the stadium itself? It must be a pain for the players to have to drive all the way out to the middle of whoop-whoop just to train when you have a perfectly decent ground in the middle of the city.
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Bitter fanatics, Skinheads and Cigar smokers, out of this sacred stadium!! Quote:
"La Ciudad del Real Madrid" is placed in a zone where there is projected one of the most important developments of Europe. In a few years Valdebebas will transform in a very important neighborhood of Madrid.
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This is my christmas gift for the people who love or hate... but admires Real Madrid.
Maybe many people don't know it but Real Madrid is more than a football club. Besides the football it has had 25 successful sports sections: +CYCLING Vicente Carretero and Julián Berrendero took part of the II Vuelta a España, 1936 (the third best competition of the world cycling). Carretero won 5 stages and Berrendero was 4th in the general classification and was the first spanish cyclist. In that years Spain was a Republic so the shield/emblem of Real Madrid was the republican one (without the crown) ![]() +BOXING Boxing in the Bernabéu stadium. In the 50's boxing was a very popular sport in Spain. "Young" Martín won the European Championship Flyweight defending Real Madrid ![]() +ATHLETICS This sports section was created in 1930 and won several championships of Spain. In the pic, José Luis González, get the World Record of 1500 meters in covered facility in 1986 ![]() +HANDBALL11 Champions of Spain in 51-52 campaign. It is the sports section that more followers was congregating in the stadium, after football. In the pic, a game of Handball11 in the Bernabéu Stadium with its clasicist form (50's) ![]() +HANDBALL7 Champions of Spain in 52-53 season. +CHESS Section founded in 1933. The best masters of that years competed with the chess-players of Real Madrid. Arturito Pomar, Fuentes, Sanz and Pérez won the Spanish Championship. Pic of the Spanish Championship 1943, Arturito Pomar (11 years) faces Fuentes ![]() +VOLLEYBALL It was created in the 50's. It won 7 Spanish Leagues and 12 Spanish Cups. In the pic the team of the 82-83, this season won the League and the Cup but it was the last year that existed ![]() +ROWING Pic in the reservoir of el Parque del Retiro. In 1954 the two first teams in the Spring Cup were Real Madrid B and Real Madrid A ![]() +BOLOS PALMA (SKITTLES?) +FENCING +GYMNASTICS RHYTHMIC +GYMNASTICS ARTISTIC +WEIGHT-LIFTING +HOCKEY (over grass) +ROLLER HOCKEY ![]() + WRESTLING +SWIMMING +PELOTA +PETANQUE +BASEBALL (pelota-base) This section was active from 1945 to 1963 and in this time it won 8 Spanish Leagues. The pic shows the celebration of the title in 1950, in the Bernabéu Stadium ![]() +RUGBY +ARCHERY +TABLE TENNIS +TENNIS Ok, I hope you believe what I am going to say. Real Madrid won a Tennis Grand Slam... Wimbledon!! Manolo Santana competed with the emblem of Real Madrid in two phases of his sports career. The first phase (first years of the 60's) won the Spanish Championship and the Torneo Conde Godó de Barcelona. In the second phase (1965-70's) he won another Spanish Championship and the prestigious english tournement. The pic was taked in July 1, 1966, that day Santana won Wimbledom with "Real Madrid in his heart"
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#108 |
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And finally....
The baskertball section is an example of the exigency that exists in Real Madrid (sometimes is excessive). In the NBA you play for showtime, in Europe you play to win and in Real Madrid you live to win (or maybe you win to live). Fortunately the basketball fans of Real Madrid are more reasonables than the football ones. But while basketball certainly draws less attention than in America, the pressure to win is still great in Madrid. Coaches receive intense scrutiny and often criticism. NBA coaching legend, George Karl, learned this when he coached Real several years back. "In a place like Real Madrid, you have to win, or you'll get fired," Karl told CBS Sportsline.com's Frank Lawlor. "They don't give coaches there the time that you would get even in the NBA to build a team. The first year I thought I coached as well as I could have, but that's not how they saw it." Despite facing the difficult task of leading the team following Real Madrid captain's death, Karl encountered pressure to resign after his first season in 1989-90. He returned for the 1991-92 campaign, but the results again fell short of lofty expectations. "I had fun coaching there, and we won a lot of games, but if you talked to people in Spain, they'd say I was a failure, because I didn't win a championship," Karl said. People in America describes Karl as a "leader with the only ambition of winning", did he learn to win in Madrid? +BASKETBALL Basketball is a sport that I don't know very well but I am going to try to explain the best I could what Real Madrid Basketball means. I hope you excuses my ignorance and mistakes (and my terrible english, as usual); it is not easy to find information of european basketball, football eclipses everything. It is the only RealMadrid sports section active today, though it has been thought to close it many times because is not autosufficiently and is alive due to the football team. This section was created in 1931 and did not stand out until the 50's, when the excelent and honesty executive Raimundo Saporta and the splendid coach Ferrandiz put on the foundations to create "the best basketball team of the world out of the NBA". The section has been a few years without giving good results (today spanish basketball is not also the mediatic sport that was when Real Madrid was the King of Europe) but last year the club signed one of the best coachs of Europe (Bozidar Maljkovic) with whom we won the Spanish League (ACB). We trust in him to make a team with stars (now we have Bullock and Rakocevic) and young players with NBA future (Reyes, Sinanovic, Tomas, Gelabale, Hervelle) that allows us to compete again as the best European team. --The team in the 30's ![]() --The team in 1947. A game in Frontón Fiesta Alegre, the place where Real Madrid played. In that years basketball was played in places without cover and with the football ball ![]() --1952 ![]() --The first Euroleague ![]() --In 1965 Real Madrid won its second Euroleague. In the pic the great President don Santiago Bernabéu with the team over the "concrete" of Frontón Fiesta Alegre. The captain, Emiliano, seizes don Santiago. ![]() --Pic of 1970. Luyk with the ball and a Varese player, Varese was the maximum rival of that years. This day Real Madrid scored in its own hoop as a winning strategy, this provoked a change in the international regulation ![]() --Real Madrid win its 5th euroleague against Varese and turns into the best team in Europa (1974), an honor that nobody has managed to be equal till now ![]() --7th Euroleague (1980). Brabender with the cup, and Walter Szczerbiak (the father of Wally Szczerbiak, the NBA star of Minnesota Timberwolves). Our current player Igor Rakocevic played in Minnesota Timberwolves for one year, he did not manage to triumph but he found the protection of the Szczerbiak family, "Wally and his family treated me as one of them, I passed a lot of time with them and they helped me to adapt to the american way of life". The destiny wanted that Rakocevic signed for Real Madrid last summer, the team where the father of his great friend Wally played. In the pic, Walter with his son, Wally, admiring the Euroleague trophy. Wally as a NBA star ![]() --Sorry, I don't have any pic of the 80's: Corbalán, Delibasic the gentleman (+),... --Drazen Petrovic, one of two best European players of the history. It was pure showtime (62 points in an european final) but overcoat a real winner; a winner player in the most winner club. He played in Madrid only one season, 88-89, and then he went away to the NBA ... without saying goodbye. It was a shock. Some months later to leave Madrid, Petrovic said: "If I have to leave the NBA and come back to Europa, the team I would choose it would be Real Madrid; no doubt. It is the best european team and I had a great year there, we won two titles and due to the injuries we could not win the Spanish League, I love the city, the club and the fans. I did not desert the Real Madrid fans, I am a professional and I always have to aim to the highest. I also left the Cibona to go to Madrid and my countrymen had to accept it. I have very good memories of the RealMadrid fans and I hope they think the same about me." Of course, the best memory. ![]() --Arvydas Sabonis, the other best European player of the history. He always said that he would not play in the same team as Petrovic... at the same time. The president of Real Madrid that days, Ramon Mendoza, wanted to buy both players the same year, but Sabonis fulfilled his words (the relationship beetwen this great players was not very good). He stayed 3 seasons with us and he won our 8th and last Euroleague (1995). He went away from Madrid to the NBA with tears in his eyes. Sabas, we don't forget you!!! ![]() At this moment Sabas is the president of Zalgiris, his former team. This team played last year against Real Madrid in Euroleague and in the pic you can see the "president" Sabas joking with "Boza" Maljkovic, our coach ![]() --Fernando Martín. Not surprisingly, a Real Madrid player was the pioneer; the first spanish player in NBA. Good player, the best competitor, the captain. Fernando playing the Open McDonalds final, 1988: Real Madrid-Boston Celtics ![]() Nobody has taken the number 10 in Real Madrid since he died. ![]() --Sorry, I don't have any pic of the latest 90's first 00's (bad days for Real Madrid basketball): Djordjevic the leader, Herreros,... Last edited by eli; January 9th, 2006 at 07:27 PM. |
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#109 |
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--The basketball team today (as the coach use to say: "a team of greats players, better as human beings")
http://www.realmadrid.com/baloncesto/plantilla/ http://www.acb.com/plantilla.php?cod...cod_edicion=50 http://www.euroleague.net/teams/teamCard.jsp?id=MAD Some of our current players: >Gelabale: as Boza said, "when we manage to anger him, his face can touch the hoop" ![]() >"Sweet" Bullock: a human cannon ![]() >Sinanovic: 2'21meters ![]() >Rako: the best player of the best national team of the world (Serbia and Montenegro) ![]() >Tomas: 20 years ![]() >Reyes: our fighter ![]() >Hervelle: the belgian gladiator ![]() --ARENAS: Real Madrid played in the Frontón Fiesta Alegre its first games. Until there was inaugurated the basketball pavilion in the Old Training Center (1966) where Real Madrid obtained the major exploits. Some years later and with the boom of the spanish basketball in the first years of the 90's, the facility remains small and Real Madrid played in the Palacio de Deportes de la Comunidad de Madrid, sharing the Arena with another club of Madrid, Estudiantes ![]() But spanish basketball had a crisis and the big pavilions was almost impossible to fill, the club takes the decision to return to the Pavilion of the Old Training Center. It suffered a few improvements and it was inaugurated on February 16, 1999, with capacity for 5.200 persons. In this years the pavilion was called Raimundo Saporta ![]() The Old Training Center and the Saporta Pavilion were destroyed in 2003 to build the new financial center (post 23). Nowadays the team plays in the Palacio Vistalegre (post 53) waiting for the new Arena (post 50). --TORNEO DE NAVIDAD: The Christmas Tournement (today is called Torneo Raimundo Saporta Memorial Fernando Martín) it is the most prestigious basketball friendly tournement and possibly the most ancient (1965). The best teams and european national teams competed in it. This year is not going to be celebrated, the club decided that it should be played in the summer (pre-season). Lately it was not the same thing than before and was not easy to bring maximum level teams to Madrid in the middle of the season. In the pic the Real Madrid, winner of the Torneo de Navidad, in the top of the podium ![]() --FOOTBALL-BASKETBALL: The friendly Christmas games between this two sections (and the lunch that they celebrate after it) are historical. They played a football game and a basketball game. Lately they has sttoped to do it though last year, due to the snowfalls, the football team had a train in the pavilion where they played a basketball game; the teams were reinforced with Gelabale and Hervelle. Guti is not bad but it is clear that Ronaldo, Salgado or Roberto Carlos have not born to play basketball. The lunch continues being celebrated; nowadays it happens in a restaurant of the stadium, Puerta 57. Then the players make a hospitals tour to take some gifts to the sick children: http://www.realmadrid.com/articulo/f...mida_28169.htm http://www.realmadrid.com/articulo/r...etes_28176.htm The two sports sections playing football in the old training center. Luyk and Amancio. Luyk goalkeeper ![]() The two sports sections playing basketball next to the east front of Bernabéu Stadium (1969), where today is locate the mall "La Esquina del Bernabéu"
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I continue with the training centres
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Ajax training centre - De Toekomst (a place of reference for the Academy work)
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#112 |
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Pics of the President in the Training Center of Valdebebas saying stupid things to the players
:http://www.realmadrid.com/articulo/f...drid_28394.htm Last edited by eli; January 3rd, 2006 at 07:35 AM. |
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En el exilio
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Madrid - Spain
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Real Madrid end United reign as the game's biggest earner
Real Madrid´s policy is finally paying dividends for Florentino Perez´s club. Nick Harris reports. Real Madrid have ended Manchester United's eight-year reign as the biggest earners in world football on the back of a galactico policy that truly started paying dividends when David Beckham swapped Old Trafford for the Bernabeu two years. Real's income to the year ending 30 June 2005 jumped 17 per cent to €275.7m (£190m), but the most eye-catching figure is that 42 per cent of their income now comes from commercial revenue, a lot of that thanks to a boom in post-Beckham marketing. Real's revenue from club merchandise, such as shirts, jumped 67 per cent in Beckham's first season alone, and climbed another 6.5 per cent in the year to June. Overall commercial income, which includes money from deals with the likes of Siemens, adidas and Pepsi, which have all grown in value with the "Beckham effect", now stands at around £80m a year. Real also earned £48m (26 per cent of turnover) from match-day income (primarily ticket sales), £44m (24 per cent) from television, and £16m (eight per cent) from promotional activities such as lucrative overseas tours and friendlies, which have also become better earners because of Beckham. United's last full-year figures showed that in the year ending 30 June 2004, their turnover was £169m, and, crucially, not on course to top the £190m that Real have earned in a like-for-like period to June this year. And whereas the key indicators in Real's figures point to steady growth and sensible economics, United's did not. Real's income is forecast to jump again next year, to around £204m. United's half-year results to 31 January 2005 came with a warning that a £14m decline in media revenue will harm the full-year data. And that was before the Glazer family took on debts that will need refinancing, partially from earnings. And whereas Real's annual wage bill (£98m) now equates to 52 per cent of turnover, and is falling towards an expected ratio of 47 per cent next year, United's wage bill last year (£76.9m) is forecast not only to rise in actual terms, but to creep from around 45 per cent of turnover to more than 50 per cent. It is quite likely, perhaps conveniently so for United, that it will never be possible to make a direct year-for-year comparison between Real's figures and United's. This is because of the Glazer family's takeover. When they arrived at Old Trafford, saddling the club with some £300m of immediate debt and more to come, they also changed United's accounting year, from August to July, to July to June. Which means that when United's figures do emerge (and the Glazers are not obliged to do more than register them at Companies House some time between now and the end of April), they will be for only 11 months. What is certain is that United will not have matched Real's stunning growth in commercial income as a percentage of turnover. Against Real's 42 per cent this year, United's figure last year was 27 per cent. United made 36 per cent of their money from match-day income and 37 per cent from media, mostly television. Real's upturn in fortunes can largely be explained by the galactico strategy of their president, Florentino Perez, who came to power in 2000, since when Real's merchandising and commercial revenues have more than trebled on the back of signing the likes of Luis Figo, Zinedine Zidane, Ronaldo - and especially Beckham. Real may have spent £340m on buying players in that time, and some £540m in wages, but the investment is paying dividends. The sale of the club's city centre training ground (for £326m) funded the initial spree. A cheaper out-of-town facility replaced it. The logic behind Perez's plan was examined thoroughly in White Angels: Beckham, Real Madrid and the New Football, John Carlin's book about the Perez-era Real, which was written with insider access and Perez's full co-operation. Carlin describes the galactico theory as "Perez's riddle", or in other words, how the most expensive players in the world were actually the cheapest. "The reason is that they generate the greatest profits," Perez told him. "The best players are the most profitable players in every sense." And this has been most true in the case of Beckham, bought from United in 2003 in a deal that would only ever cost Real a maximum of £22m, even if Real had won every trophy available while he played for them. "Peanuts! They're asking peanuts," is how Real's director of marketing, Jose Angel Sanchez, memorably informed Perez of the price United were seeking for Beckham. Figo had cost £37m, Zidane had cost £47m and Ronaldo £29m, and here was Beckham, already an icon in lucrative Far East markets that Real wanted to exploit, being given away for a maximum of £22m. Before the deal was done, Perez asked Sanchez: "So how much is Beckham worth to you?" Sanchez estimated the England captain could be worth €500m (£340m) of business. It was a no-brainer. According to one source in Madrid yesterday: "Even now, there are still people walking around the club shaking their heads in disbelief that Beckham arrived for so little." If one irony of the situation is not enough - Real leap-frogging United in the cash stakes on the back of a player United no longer wanted - then Perez added a second as he confirmed a continuing upturn in Real's fortunes with the release of positive yearly results on Sunday night. "We want Real Madrid to remain a club that belongs to everyone," he said. "Real Madrid is not obsessed with economic results alone, but our economic stability will guarantee our freedom in the future". In other words, while other clubs, either plc-owned or run as personal fiefdoms by profit-hungry businessmen, are motivated by the bottom line for themselves, Real, looking to remain truly independent, are actually outdoing them. And unlike United, under the Glazers, Real have no debt. And they still have Beckham. REAL MADRID Annual income*: £190m Biggest earner: Commercial income from merchandise and sponsorship, worth almost £80m a year (42 per cent of income). When Florentino Perez became president of the club in 2000, this figure was lower than 10 per cent of income. Other major revenue streams: Match-day income (mainly tickets) of £48m (26 per cent of income); television income of £44m (24 per cent); and friendlies, tours and other promotions earning £16m (eight per cent). Wages: £98m, currently 52 per cent of income, which is forecast to fall to 47 per cent of turnover next year. MANCHESTER UTD Annual income**: £169m Biggest earner: Television income, which was by far the largest chunk of overall media income of £62.5m in the year (37 per cent of income). TV income forecast to fall £14m in the current year. Other major revenue streams: Match-day income of £61.2m (36 per cent); commercial income of £45.3m (27 per cent). Wages: £76.9m in the last full-year figures, equating to 45 per cent of income, which is expected to rise above 50 per cent in the next figures. * denotes year to 30 June, 2005; ** denotes year to 31 July, 2004, but little or no growth expected in year to June 2005. |
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Milanello, Milan training centre
http://www.acmilan.com/InfoPage.aspx?id=460 Quote:
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Join Date: Apr 2005
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This is the extension of Camp Nou. De model is made in de early 90's. I hope that FC Barcelona built this construction.
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stadiumfuture, did you see that? I have just found it.
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stadiumfuture
Join Date: Apr 2005
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eli:
Thank you for the picture, its likes an golfcourse. Barca the greencity. |
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Pics of "La Ciudad del Real Madrid" in the snow. The "white" complex of the White Club:
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Cool.
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CAW performs miracles, From Manchester to Rome. But it would be a miracle, If he brought a f*ckin lady home! |
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LIVE REALMADRIDTV
+If you want to watch Realmadrid Television (spanish version) in your computer by streaming: Quote:
+If you live in America, Europe or Asia, you can watch the spanish or the english version in your TV. You only have to orientate your satellite dish towards the satellites Astra or Hispasat: In Europe: -Satellite Hispasat 30º W RMTV, frequency 12.092-H MHz. (SR 27500, FEC 3/4) -Satellite Astra1E 19,2º E RMTV, frequency 11.509-V MHz. (SR 22000, FEC 5/6) -Satellite Eutelsat Hot Bird 13º E (english version) RMTV, frequency 11.785-H MHz. (SR 27500, FEC 3/4) http://www.realmadrid.com/articulo/1018.htm Last edited by eli; February 13th, 2006 at 07:32 PM. |
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