Mumbai (BOM) | Chhatrapati Shivaji International Airport

[p2p4]

These are updated charts but in case you want all terminal based info, I don't mind posting again.

GF - I don't remember deleting these charts as I thought they would be helpful but reposted anyways.

[p2p4]

Below charts are at least 2 months old. Shall post July data as soon as I get all files compiled.

Should I open another VABB thread for pilots/aviation community? Do let me know.. cos I don't want to "pallooot" this thread with data that will go tangential on many uninitiated posters...

[Kilo Delta]

Originally Posted by p2p4

Below charts are at least 2 months old. Shall post July data as soon as I get all files compiled.

Should I open another VABB thread for pilots/aviation community? Do let me know.. cos I don't want to "pallooot" this thread with data that will go tangential on many uninitiated posters...

Thanks a lot for the charts.

And no, no need for another VABB chart. I am neither pilot not from aviation community, I was looking for these charts simply for curiosity because they show all the runway, taxiway, apron positions clearly marked as and when changes are made.. I believe that's in line with the discussions that go on at this thread aka BOM airport upgrade process.

[GF1011]

Originally Posted by p2p4

Below charts are at least 2 months old. Shall post July data as soon as I get all files compiled.

Should I open another VABB thread for pilots/aviation community? Do let me know.. cos I don't want to "pallooot" this thread with data that will go tangential on many uninitiated posters...

What an Idea Sirji. I'd appreciate more info on the charts for VABB. For starters, I'd like to know more about some of those markings on the chart, and that might take things OT.

[MT84]

Originally Posted by p2p4

Should I open another VABB thread for pilots/aviation community? Do let me know.. cos I don't want to "pallooot" this thread with data that will go tangential on many uninitiated posters...

Give us a link if you start new thread for this !

[nandan_ks]

Originally Posted by GF1011

What an Idea Sirji. I'd appreciate more info on the charts for VABB. For starters, I'd like to know more about some of those markings on the chart, and that might take things OT.

+1 , Curious to know more on these.

[Kilo Delta]

Originally Posted by nandan_ks

+1 , Curious to know more on these.

I am no aviation expert but I can explain some of the stuff on that chart that I know-

09/27 and 14/32: Runway numbers

RWY09 3190x45, RWY142871x45: Runway length and width

END ELEV: End elevation above sea level

All those alphabets A,B,C,D,P,Q,N5,N7 etc: Apron and Taxiway names. All conversation between ATC and pilots use phonetic names for these, for example "Land Runway Zero Nine, take right on taxiway November Eight, left on Alpha"

HS1, HS2, HS3 etc: High Speed exits, also called Rapid Exit Taxiways

The text in four big boxes is the radar information such as frequency, channels to tune in to etc

And that's about it.

[GF1011]

What do ASR/MSSR stand for?

[WinCPP]

Originally Posted by p2p4

Should I open another VABB thread for pilots/aviation community? Do let me know.. cos I don't want to "pallooot" this thread with data that will go tangential on many uninitiated posters...

No separate thread please! We are equally interested although we can't fly without a plane and you guys!

Regards,
WinCPP

[p2p4]

JFYI (for all En2s) on SSCI CSIA
Image gives March end update on which areas of the airport (were) under construction.

Orange stripes = new facility under construction ( apron )
Blue stripes = limited work





@ Kilo Delta - my guess was right when I first saw your ID on SSCI as KILO DELTA that you HAD to be an aero/nautical navigational or aerospace N2siast

Your explanations are correct


More charts coming on the way .. but you guys have to be patient . There is one chart of the 14-32 as well but will need some work to expand it and then cut it onto separate 'pictures' so that you know the obstacles along and around the runway

Bear with me.

Note before signing out - ROGER BHAI Dhantanaan... your guess about the ATC being an obstruction is pretty much valid even now. Great work all of you

Cheers
p2p4

[MT84]

Source: http://ibnlive.in.com/news/mumbai-ai...613-3-237.html

Mumbai: With the initiative to develop Juhu airport, as a secondary airport gaining momentum, and plans to shift all of the small aircraft operations from Mumbai airport to Juhu on the anvil, it has now been decided that the existing runway will be extended westwards into the Arabian Sea — on stilts. The aviation ministry’s decision aims to reduce the burden from the only international airport in the city.

Civil aviation minister Ajit Singh said, “The increasing flight congestion at Mumbai airport is a concern for us, and we have decided to develop the Juhu airport so that it can take some load off the international airport. We want to shift the small aircraft operations to Juhu. A task force has been structured under the chairmanship of the Maharashtra CM, which will pursue the matter further. One joint secretary-level officer from the civil aviation ministry is also a member of this task force, and is coordinating with the state for necessary clearances.”

When the minister was asked about the encroachments and was also informed that the runway of this airport is too small to cater to small aircraft like ATRs, he said, “The task force is studying important aspects including encroachments. The suggestion given by the consultancy firm to extend the Juhu airport runway into Arabian Sea also looks feasible. The existing runway will be extended by constructing stilts into the Arabian Sea.” Singh also maintained that once necessary clearances are obtained, construction work would be on a fast track.



During a visit to the city last month, Singh along with the CM had conducted an aerial survey of Juhu airport, and later during a press briefing had announced that the airport would be developed. M Yadagiri, director, Juhu airport, also confirmed that the idea to extend the runway into Arabian Sea was once discussed with the cabinet secretary of Maharashtra. “It was mulled during a meeting with the state cabinet secretary to extend the runway into the Arabian Sea. I would not be able to comment whether it has finally been adopted or not, as it is a matter where the decision will be taken by the top officials.”

Sources from Airport Authority of India (AAI), confirmed that movement of top officials from Delhi to Juhu has increased in the past few months. A team from the AAI planning department was on a three-day visit to Juhu to chalk out a strategy to clear the encroachments to pave the way for the new runway. “Yes, the team was in Mumbai to study various aspects associated with Juhu airport, and encroachment could be one of the aspect,” said Yadagiri.

Extended length

Juhu’s runway 08/26 lies in the east-west direction, and is currently 1,143m long, and will be extended by 877 metres to 2,020 metres by building it on stilts over the Juhu-Tara Road and into the Arabian Sea. Presently, the runway caters to a large number of chopper operations and a few number of fixed-wing small aircraft operate from here. According to the aviation ministry sources, around 100 flight operations (small aircraft), including ATRs, would be shifted to this runway, when it becomes operational.
Shifting encroachers

40 Acres of Juhu airport, which has an approximate area of 400 acres, is encroached by slums. The aviation authorities along with the state authorities are chalking out a strategy to relocate over 3,000 hutments from the encroached area, so that the development process can start.
The Juhu runway extension plan was proposed to start in 2010, but the Ministry of Environment and Forests (MoEF) did not give its NOC then. However, in 2011, with Coastal Regulation Zone (CRZ) rules permitting roads on stilts in CRZ-I areas (within 100 metres of the shoreline), the project looks all set to take off.

Project runway

2010: The year Juhu runway extension plan was proposed
2020 metres: The proposed length of the runway
100: Number of flight operations (small aircraft), would be shifted to Juhu airport once operational

[afako]

That is not feasible. That would mean demolishing the heart of Juhu and maybe Marriot too?

[GF1011]

Originally Posted by MT84

Source: http://ibnlive.in.com/news/mumbai-ai...613-3-237.html

New minister, same old ignorant statement. .
Prepare for another round of articles in the press about local opposition, environmental opposition, runway alignment, juhu road alignment, coastal degradation, blah blah blah...

[GF1011]

Originally Posted by afako

That is not feasible. That would mean demolishing the heart of Juhu and maybe Marriot too?

Not really. The runway extension would mean truncating Juhu Tara Road on either sides of the runway,Removing the popular Bhelpuri stalls on the beach and effectively chopping Juhu beach (and Juhu) into Juhu north and Juhu south. Enough to send all the Local (Advanced Locality Manangement) ALM committees into WAR mode!!!

[Yako1]

Originally Posted by GF1011

Not really. The runway extension would mean truncating Juhu Tara Road on either sides of the runway,Removing the popular Bhelpuri stalls on the beach and effectively chopping Juhu beach (and Juhu) into Juhu north and Juhu south. Enough to send all the Local (Advanced Locality Manangement) ALM committees into WAR mode!!!

That would also mean putting the WEH and some railway lines under the runways... abit like Kai Tak or Shanghai.. and oh, some of the mid-rise buildings in that area...

[GF1011]

Originally Posted by Yako1

That would also mean putting the WEH and some railway lines under the runways... abit like Kai Tak or Shanghai.. and oh, some of the mid-rise buildings in that area...

LOL, not really. read the article again. the lone runway is to be extended west over the sea on stilts.

[p2p4]

Seriously, guys!!!!! Even if this happens, not even in next generatiion's lifetime.

[bhargavsura]

Originally Posted by afako

That is not feasible. That would mean demolishing the heart of Juhu and maybe Marriot too?

Originally Posted by Yako1

That would also mean putting the WEH and some railway lines under the runways... abit like Kai Tak or Shanghai.. and oh, some of the mid-rise buildings in that area...

Nope. Completely feasible. As GF mentioned, Runway will be extended on the stilts over the west. Marriott hotel is on the eastern side of Juhu beach.

Originally Posted by p2p4

Seriously, guys!!!!! Even if this happens, not even in next generatiion's lifetime.

Agree with what you say. But I would really hope that it sees the light of the day and I would rather go for developing this before the NM airport. Things exist, its just matter of creating coming up with some structures.

If anything, I wish foreign consultants survey the feasibilities for this.

[afako]

Looking from the Mithibai gives the Best View for this Project.

The Juhu Society Association is another Monster like the Malabar Hills or the Cuffe Parades or the Pali Hills. For a Small Nuisance, they file a case in the Supreme Court directly. Seriously think, They would allow to F*ck up a Superb Place like Juhu? Never.

During Take Off One with Window Seat on the East would be able to Wave to Aishwariya Rai!

[meetmus2fa]

Mumbai: With the initiative to develop Juhu airport, as a secondary airport gaining momentum, and plans to shift all of the small aircraft operations from Mumbai airport to Juhu on the anvil, it has now been decided that the existing runway will be extended westwards into the Arabian Sea - on stilts.

The aviation ministry's decision aims to reduce the burden from the only international airport in the city. Civil aviation minister Ajit Singh said, "The increasing flight congestion at Mumbai airport is a concern for us, and we have decided to develop the Juhu airport so that it can take some load off the international airport. We want to shift the small aircraft operations to Juhu. A task force has been structured under the chairmanship of the Maharashtra CM, which will pursue the matter further. One joint secretary-level officer from the civil aviation ministry is also a member of this task force, and is coordinating with the state for necessary clearances."

When the minister was asked about the encroachments and was also informed that the runway of this airport is too small to cater to small aircraft like ATRs, he said, "The task force is studying important aspects including encroachments. The suggestion given by the consultancy firm to extend the Juhu airport runway into Arabian Sea also looks feasible. The existing runway will be extended by constructing stilts into the Arabian Sea." Singh also maintained that once necessary clearances are obtained, construction work would be on a fast track.

During a visit to the city last month, Singh along with the CM had conducted an aerial survey of Juhu airport, and later during a press briefing had announced that the airport would be developed. M Yadagiri, director, Juhu airport, also confirmed that the idea to extend the runway into Arabian Sea was once discussed with the cabinet secretary of Maharashtra. "It was mulled during a meeting with the state cabinet secretary to extend the runway into the Arabian Sea. I would not be able to comment whether it has finally been adopted or not, as it is a matter where the decision will be taken by the top officials."

Sources from Airport Authority of India (AAI), confirmed that movement of top officials from Delhi to Juhu has increased in the past few months. A team from the AAI planning department was on a three-day visit to Juhu to chalk out a strategy to clear the encroachments to pave the way for the new runway.

"Yes, the team was in Mumbai to study various aspects associated with Juhu airport, and encroachment could be one of the aspect," said Yadagiri.

Extended length
Juhu's runway 08/26 lies in the east-west direction, and is currently 1,143m long, and will be extended by 877 metres to 2,020 metres by building it on stilts over the Juhu-Tara Road and into the Arabian Sea. Presently, the runway caters to a large number of chopper operations and a few number of fixed-wing small aircraft operate from here. According to the aviation ministry sources, around 100 flight operations (small aircraft), including ATRs, would be shifted to this runway, when it becomes operational.

Shifting encroachers
40 Acres of Juhu airport, which has an approximate area of 400 acres, is encroached by slums. The aviation authorities along with the state authorities are chalking out a strategy to relocate over 3,000 hutments from the encroached area, so that the development process can start.

The Juhu runway extension plan was proposed to start in 2010, but the Ministry of Environment and Forests (MoEF) did not give its NOC then. However, in 2011, with Coastal Regulation Zone (CRZ) rules permitting roads on stilts in CRZ-I areas (within 100 metres of the shoreline), the project looks all set to take off.

Project runway
2010: The year Juhu runway extension plan was proposed
2020 metres: The proposed length of the runway
100: Number of flight operations (small aircraft), would be shifted to Juhu airport once operational

Source :- http://www.ndtv.com/article/cities/j...the-sea-243834