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Old February 22nd, 2013, 04:47 AM   #9521
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OT: has anyone else heard about the conspiracy theories surrounding the Denver airport?
Fredrico Pena, then mayor of Denver, was accused of a lot of stuff.

Stapelton, the old airport, was really hemmed by neighbourhoods to its left and a major highway cutting across the airport to its north and east. In winter anytime a snowstorm hit, the airport would basically shut-down because of extra time required between take-off/landings. Now Denver relies on snow, the ski areas, in winter. Not good for tourist's.

Specifically for this reason, the new DIA has runway's that are really spread out because that allows lots of distance between aircraft. When it opened, FAA actually performed a triple. Not sure if it is required on regular basis.

While Pena could not have forecast this, since DIA opened, the entire Front Range of Colorado has grown tremendously and Stapelton would not have been able to handle this growth. Did DIA have to do with this? Could be.

I happened to land at DIA just about the time it opened and there was nothing. Things certainly have changed.
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Old February 22nd, 2013, 05:03 PM   #9522
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Thanks for sharing I never knew that...
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Old February 22nd, 2013, 11:18 PM   #9523
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My apologies if this has been discussed before.

Is the Metro rail connecting right into the terminal (Mumbai's new terminal) so passengers going to the airport can just get off the train and walk (using/via concourse / elivators / escalators / etc) to the airport or they have to get down the train, get into some kind of transport (provided by MIPL ? or Mumbai's Kali+Piwali taxi or autorikshaw) to get to the airport terminal?

Hope to see improvements on this side (better connectivity via Mumbai's public transit systems).
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Old February 23rd, 2013, 05:20 AM   #9524
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My apologies if this has been discussed before.

Is the Metro rail connecting right into the terminal (Mumbai's new terminal) so passengers going to the airport can just get off the train and walk (using/via concourse / elivators / escalators / etc) to the airport or they have to get down the train, get into some kind of transport (provided by MIPL ? or Mumbai's Kali+Piwali taxi or autorikshaw) to get to the airport terminal?

Hope to see improvements on this side (better connectivity via Mumbai's public transit systems).
A simple look at Google Maps/Google Earth could have answered your question. Mumbai Metro does not go anywhere near the airport terminal, forget about going straight into the terminal. The nearest Metro station will be more than a kilometer away from the airport terminal and so far there has been no announcement that MIAL will provide any kind of shuttle service, so once you get off the station, you will be on your own to reach the airport.

Yes, that's how amazing the long term planning in Mumbai is.
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Old February 23rd, 2013, 05:48 AM   #9525
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If you don't know Line 3 will connect airport. MIAL has agreed to fund the construction cost of 3 stations within airport premises.

The shuttle services to Line 1 was already discussed. With just international passengers, there won't be many takers, IMO.As and when domestic operations shift to Sahar in 2015, shuttle services will definitely be useful

Btw, shuttle services is not something so important that they will announce even before they announce the opening date of metro. It can be very well announced just 15 days before opening date, if at all it is required. BEST can run few buses though.

To my knowledge, Bombay is the only city which has decent public transportation at airport. Many BEST buses pass through domestic terminal and there are actually many takers for it.
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Old February 23rd, 2013, 08:18 AM   #9526
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^Both HYD and BLR have decent public shuttle bus service to/from various points in their respective cities. But yeah, BOM has had it for much longer.
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Old February 23rd, 2013, 09:29 AM   #9527
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HYD and BLR are in remote places. There is limited option to travel at affordable prices. And in case of BLR, the patronage has been steadily decreasing as the pooled cabs are almost offering the same fare as Volvos. In a nutshell, you cannot reach Bangalore airport without spending a minimum of 150 bucks. In Mumbai, even my rick charge from airport to home is far less than that.

There was hardly any public transport at HAL airport of Bangalore. And I dont think the situation would have been any different in old airport of Hyd.

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Old February 23rd, 2013, 11:07 AM   #9528
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... a minimum of 150 bucks. In Mumbai, even my rick charge from airport to home is far less than that.
If you live that close, then I am surprised any Rickshaw guy agrees to take you .

Just kidding.
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Old February 23rd, 2013, 01:51 PM   #9529
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It is approx10 km and the fare is 100 bucks. I usually use ricks because it saves lot of time waiting at counters and queues. Yes I know it depends on where you are. But a huge population resides close to airport.

Even for 10 km ride, ricks in other cities will charge a bomb
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Old February 23rd, 2013, 03:22 PM   #9530
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Was reminded of my home airport while at work (far from home) today. These petalled chandeliers at the Qatar National Convention Centre in Doha open up similar to the ones installed at T2.



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Old February 23rd, 2013, 04:37 PM   #9531
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Old February 23rd, 2013, 08:10 PM   #9532
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If you don't know Line 3 will connect airport. MIAL has agreed to fund the construction cost of 3 stations within airport premises.

The shuttle services to Line 1 was already discussed. With just international passengers, there won't be many takers, IMO.As and when domestic operations shift to Sahar in 2015, shuttle services will definitely be useful

Btw, shuttle services is not something so important that they will announce even before they announce the opening date of metro. It can be very well announced just 15 days before opening date, if at all it is required. BEST can run few buses though.

To my knowledge, Bombay is the only city which has decent public transportation at airport. Many BEST buses pass through domestic terminal and there are actually many takers for it.
ID sir, BEST already runs lot of buses on the Kempinski-International Terminal-Cargo Complex route, that then go onto to Andheri/Mahim/Bandra/Goregaon in the Western locales, and to Kanjurmarg/Ghatkopar/Vidyavihar/Kurla on the Eastern front. They just need to replace these buses with good low floor, side-wall seating, luggage compartment buses like the ones from Volvo or Scania.

BTW, some great news. Terminal 1A getting a new facade, over the existing old look. More details should be expected from our big brother, Kilo Bravo !
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Old February 24th, 2013, 06:54 AM   #9533
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^Terminal 1A really does need a new look, compared with 1B and 1C it looks out of place now. But that begs the question, why now when in a few years it will be mothballed anyway? Plans for the T1 complex are still not clear.
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Old February 24th, 2013, 10:15 AM   #9534
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A simple look at Google Maps/Google Earth could have answered your question. Mumbai Metro does not go anywhere near the airport terminal, forget about going straight into the terminal. The nearest Metro station will be more than a kilometer away from the airport terminal and so far there has been no announcement that MIAL will provide any kind of shuttle service, so once you get off the station, you will be on your own to reach the airport.

Yes, that's how amazing the long term planning in Mumbai is.

Lol.. forget connection from metro to airport.. there is no connection from the railway line to sahar or santacruz.. even though, the railway line has been around for considerable time... And for years, there was no proper connection from the WEH to the airport..
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Old February 24th, 2013, 10:45 AM   #9535
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^Both HYD and BLR have decent public shuttle bus service to/from various points in their respective cities. But yeah, BOM has had it for much longer.
Even New Delhi had to wait ages for a bus or train service to connect it to the downtown area...
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Old February 24th, 2013, 10:46 AM   #9536
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Was reminded of my home airport while at work (far from home) today. These petalled chandeliers at the Qatar National Convention Centre in Doha open up similar to the ones installed at T2.



Is it purplish/pink because its a Qatar Airways lounge?

reminds me of a purple haze :P
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Old February 24th, 2013, 11:21 AM   #9537
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Is it purplish/pink because its a Qatar Airways lounge?

reminds me of a purple haze :P
It's not a QR lounge, it's a convention centre. Its a lighting effect and can change to any colour.
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Old February 24th, 2013, 11:34 AM   #9538
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Lol.. forget connection from metro to airport.. there is no connection from the railway line to sahar or santacruz.. even though, the railway line has been around for considerable time... And for years, there was no proper connection from the WEH to the airport..
Thats because our babus in Mantralaya felt that the mango man who uses public transport would not use the airport/air travel. Even the BEST bus routes were meant to cater primarily to airport employees.
And andheri east was a sleepy suburb in the 80s. the andheri kurla road up to the airport was pretty adequate for T2. The area around sahar began booming in the late 90s when Factories in the area gave way to large commercial complexes fuelled by the BPO and KPO industries.
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Old February 24th, 2013, 12:49 PM   #9539
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Thats because our babus in Mantralaya felt that the mango man who uses public transport would not use the airport/air travel. Even the BEST bus routes were meant to cater primarily to airport employees.
And andheri east was a sleepy suburb in the 80s. the andheri kurla road up to the airport was pretty adequate for T2. The area around sahar began booming in the late 90s when Factories in the area gave way to large commercial complexes fuelled by the BPO and KPO industries.
yeah man.... lots of new opportunities came threw heyy... and the infrastructure wasnt ready to take it all just yet.. when p2p4 or someone shared a 70's pic of the old sahar terminal being constructed, it looks like there was lots of greenery..

so once the metro is complete, ppl will have to probably rely on those tiny white mini-vans to take them to the airport, from the station.. ( i dont know if they still exist anymore, the last time i saw em was years ago) or even a tuk-tuk.. A feeder bus service would be good...
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Old February 24th, 2013, 01:13 PM   #9540
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To my knowledge, Bombay is the only city which has decent public transportation at airport. Many BEST buses pass through domestic terminal and there are actually many takers for it.
Delhi airport has metro connectivity from 2 sides via Airport line and Blue line along with Airport buses run by DTC from various parts of Delhi and other ordinary bus routes which terminate at the airport. This is decent enough connectivity IMO considering most of the users anyway take a cab because of luggage.
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