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Old February 20th, 2013, 01:29 PM   #9521
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Old February 20th, 2013, 03:08 PM   #9522
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Old February 20th, 2013, 09:56 PM   #9523
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SITA ties up with MIAL for passenger solutions

Source: http://www.business-standard.com/art...2000828_1.html

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Under the agreement SITA will provide its common-use check-in and boarding, along with self-service kiosks

Mumbai International Airport Limited (MIAL) has entered into a ten-year agreement with SITA, a specialist in air transport communications and information technology for passenger handling, baggage reconciliation and security solutions.

Under the agreement SITA will provide its common-use check-in and boarding, along with self-service kiosks. baggage reconciliation system and its application which is used to process passengers at terminal entry points and before existing boarding gates also increasing overall security.

Hani El-Assaad, SITA President, Middle East, India and Africa, said: “This major agreement, confirms SITA’s commitment to, and leadership position in, the air transport industry in India

SITA will fully integrate the passenger services with the existing airport management system delivering benefits to both airlines and passengers. As part of the program, the new systems will be used at the existing domestic terminals 1A and 1B and also in the new integrated terminal T2.
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Old February 21st, 2013, 04:36 AM   #9524
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Many airports around the world have such straight design. One of such is at Denver, CO, USA.

Commuting from one wing / terminal to another is a pain that way. I would prefer to walk rather than to wait in the line to get into the transport taking me to another terminal.

Mumbai's old design might be having similar mechanism for inter terminal transfers....unless entire path is buried underground (which can make it very expensive.)
Having lived in both Atlanta and Denver, it is amazing how efficient these airports are with such a small foot-print. Hartsfield has 5 runways allowing for doubles. Denver because of inclement weather was required to keep larger distances; hence the spread. One thing DIA could have learnt from ATL was to build some redundancy. For instance, ATL has trains and tunnels. One could simply choose to walk instead of waiting for a train. Similarly, if DIA had built some tunnels for their fancy baggage handling system, they might have been able to make it work.

I would prefer to transit at either of them any day compared to ORD, IAH, DFW (not so bad with the trains now).
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Old February 21st, 2013, 06:59 AM   #9525
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Baggage reconciliation system for CSIA

http://www.dnaindia.com/mumbai/repor...-boost_1802388

Passengers travelling from Mumbai airport don’t need to worry anymore about their bags getting misplaced. Latest technology being put in place will make sure that the luggage gets into the same flight as the passenger and also can be tracked easily in an emergency even after checking it in. Last year, 1.41 crore bags were transported by all the airlines from Mumbai airport.

The Baggage Reconciliation System (BRS) is being installed to curb the incidents of fliers’ bags going missing and getting misplaced. Also, the integration and upgradation of BRS is in place which will help cut short the time required for a passenger to be present at the airport, before the departure of his flight, to a considerable extent.

Speaking to DNA, Hani El-Assaad, president, Middle East, India & Africa of SITA (Société Internationale de Télécommunications Aéronautiques), the company which MIAL’s technology partner, said, “Baggage misplacement is a major problem world over. But through technology such instances can be considerably reduced or stopped.”

BRS tags the bags and ensures that the right bag is on the right flight with the right passenger. This system has been made such that even if the connections fail, the bags will get tagged automatically and can be tracked all through the journey.

“Even after the baggage has been loaded on to the plane, it can be easily taken off in an emergency,” said Maneesh Jaikrishna, VP, India and sub-continent, SITA.

The Mumbai airport is also being upgraded with Airport iValidate technology. Officials said that though certain aspects of this technology are already in place, it’s now being upgraded to process the passengers at terminal points and prior to going to the airside. This will ensure validity for the terminal, flight and flight time and thereby increaseoverall security.
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Old February 21st, 2013, 03:39 PM   #9526
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Old February 21st, 2013, 04:44 PM   #9527
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Having lived in both Atlanta and Denver, it is amazing how efficient these airports are with such a small foot-print. Hartsfield has 5 runways allowing for doubles. Denver because of inclement weather was required to keep larger distances; hence the spread. One thing DIA could have learnt from ATL was to build some redundancy. For instance, ATL has trains and tunnels. One could simply choose to walk instead of waiting for a train. Similarly, if DIA had built some tunnels for their fancy baggage handling system, they might have been able to make it work.

I would prefer to transit at either of them any day compared to ORD, IAH, DFW (not so bad with the trains now).
Actually IAH and DFW are some of the best airports for connecting (DFW even more so now that it has the trains). I think at DEN the underground mall concept was dropped because the airport was already getting too expensive and was heavily delayed. Great airport though, especially the bridge that goes over the taxiway connecting the main terminal to Concourse A. Not too many airports out there where you can watch planes taxi right beneath you!

As anaviation enthusiast ORD is great, but if you're connecting to international flights in T5 from any other terminal it can be a pain.

BOM's new T2 though will finally offer seamless connections once it fully opens for business.
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Old February 21st, 2013, 04:53 PM   #9528
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Actually IAH and DFW are some of the best airports for connecting (DFW even more so now that it has the trains). I think at DEN the underground mall concept was dropped because the airport was already getting too expensive and was heavily delayed. Great airport though, especially the bridge that goes over the taxiway connecting the main terminal to Concourse A. Not too many airports out there where you can watch planes taxi right beneath you!

As anaviation enthusiast ORD is great, but if you're connecting to international flights in T5 from any other terminal it can be a pain.

BOM's new T2 though will finally offer seamless connections once it fully opens for business.
OT: has anyone else heard about the conspiracy theories surrounding the Denver airport?
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Old February 22nd, 2013, 03:47 AM   #9529
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OT: has anyone else heard about the conspiracy theories surrounding the Denver airport?
Fredrico Pena, then mayor of Denver, was accused of a lot of stuff.

Stapelton, the old airport, was really hemmed by neighbourhoods to its left and a major highway cutting across the airport to its north and east. In winter anytime a snowstorm hit, the airport would basically shut-down because of extra time required between take-off/landings. Now Denver relies on snow, the ski areas, in winter. Not good for tourist's.

Specifically for this reason, the new DIA has runway's that are really spread out because that allows lots of distance between aircraft. When it opened, FAA actually performed a triple. Not sure if it is required on regular basis.

While Pena could not have forecast this, since DIA opened, the entire Front Range of Colorado has grown tremendously and Stapelton would not have been able to handle this growth. Did DIA have to do with this? Could be.

I happened to land at DIA just about the time it opened and there was nothing. Things certainly have changed.
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Old February 22nd, 2013, 04:03 PM   #9530
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Old February 22nd, 2013, 10:18 PM   #9531
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My apologies if this has been discussed before.

Is the Metro rail connecting right into the terminal (Mumbai's new terminal) so passengers going to the airport can just get off the train and walk (using/via concourse / elivators / escalators / etc) to the airport or they have to get down the train, get into some kind of transport (provided by MIPL ? or Mumbai's Kali+Piwali taxi or autorikshaw) to get to the airport terminal?

Hope to see improvements on this side (better connectivity via Mumbai's public transit systems).
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Old February 23rd, 2013, 04:20 AM   #9532
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My apologies if this has been discussed before.

Is the Metro rail connecting right into the terminal (Mumbai's new terminal) so passengers going to the airport can just get off the train and walk (using/via concourse / elivators / escalators / etc) to the airport or they have to get down the train, get into some kind of transport (provided by MIPL ? or Mumbai's Kali+Piwali taxi or autorikshaw) to get to the airport terminal?

Hope to see improvements on this side (better connectivity via Mumbai's public transit systems).
A simple look at Google Maps/Google Earth could have answered your question. Mumbai Metro does not go anywhere near the airport terminal, forget about going straight into the terminal. The nearest Metro station will be more than a kilometer away from the airport terminal and so far there has been no announcement that MIAL will provide any kind of shuttle service, so once you get off the station, you will be on your own to reach the airport.

Yes, that's how amazing the long term planning in Mumbai is.
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Old February 23rd, 2013, 04:48 AM   #9533
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If you don't know Line 3 will connect airport. MIAL has agreed to fund the construction cost of 3 stations within airport premises.

The shuttle services to Line 1 was already discussed. With just international passengers, there won't be many takers, IMO.As and when domestic operations shift to Sahar in 2015, shuttle services will definitely be useful

Btw, shuttle services is not something so important that they will announce even before they announce the opening date of metro. It can be very well announced just 15 days before opening date, if at all it is required. BEST can run few buses though.

To my knowledge, Bombay is the only city which has decent public transportation at airport. Many BEST buses pass through domestic terminal and there are actually many takers for it.
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Old February 23rd, 2013, 07:18 AM   #9534
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^Both HYD and BLR have decent public shuttle bus service to/from various points in their respective cities. But yeah, BOM has had it for much longer.
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Old February 23rd, 2013, 08:29 AM   #9535
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HYD and BLR are in remote places. There is limited option to travel at affordable prices. And in case of BLR, the patronage has been steadily decreasing as the pooled cabs are almost offering the same fare as Volvos. In a nutshell, you cannot reach Bangalore airport without spending a minimum of 150 bucks. In Mumbai, even my rick charge from airport to home is far less than that.

There was hardly any public transport at HAL airport of Bangalore. And I dont think the situation would have been any different in old airport of Hyd.

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Old February 23rd, 2013, 10:07 AM   #9536
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... a minimum of 150 bucks. In Mumbai, even my rick charge from airport to home is far less than that.
If you live that close, then I am surprised any Rickshaw guy agrees to take you .

Just kidding.
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It is approx10 km and the fare is 100 bucks. I usually use ricks because it saves lot of time waiting at counters and queues. Yes I know it depends on where you are. But a huge population resides close to airport.

Even for 10 km ride, ricks in other cities will charge a bomb
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Old February 23rd, 2013, 02:22 PM   #9538
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Was reminded of my home airport while at work (far from home) today. These petalled chandeliers at the Qatar National Convention Centre in Doha open up similar to the ones installed at T2.



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Old February 23rd, 2013, 03:37 PM   #9539
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Old February 23rd, 2013, 07:10 PM   #9540
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If you don't know Line 3 will connect airport. MIAL has agreed to fund the construction cost of 3 stations within airport premises.

The shuttle services to Line 1 was already discussed. With just international passengers, there won't be many takers, IMO.As and when domestic operations shift to Sahar in 2015, shuttle services will definitely be useful

Btw, shuttle services is not something so important that they will announce even before they announce the opening date of metro. It can be very well announced just 15 days before opening date, if at all it is required. BEST can run few buses though.

To my knowledge, Bombay is the only city which has decent public transportation at airport. Many BEST buses pass through domestic terminal and there are actually many takers for it.
ID sir, BEST already runs lot of buses on the Kempinski-International Terminal-Cargo Complex route, that then go onto to Andheri/Mahim/Bandra/Goregaon in the Western locales, and to Kanjurmarg/Ghatkopar/Vidyavihar/Kurla on the Eastern front. They just need to replace these buses with good low floor, side-wall seating, luggage compartment buses like the ones from Volvo or Scania.

BTW, some great news. Terminal 1A getting a new facade, over the existing old look. More details should be expected from our big brother, Kilo Bravo !
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