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Old March 14th, 2012, 08:35 PM   #21
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They should re-locate the Thackray Museum here & help create a museum quarter along with Leeds City Museum & Art Gallery etc.
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Old March 14th, 2012, 08:49 PM   #22
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They should re-locate the Thackray Museum here & help create a museum quarter along with Leeds City Museum & Art Gallery etc.
I doubt it, to be honest. The Thackray building and Ashley wing are just not suitable for modern wards, unfortunately. The only way to use that site would be by demolishing and starting again. Ashley Wing has just had millions spent on it to convert it into a clinical skills centre.
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Old March 14th, 2012, 09:26 PM   #23
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The Dermatology unit which i think occuipies the the top 2 or 3 floors in part of the Brotherton wing are planning a move of services upto the Chapel Allerton Hospital
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Old March 14th, 2012, 09:52 PM   #24
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Well new uses would surely have to be found sharpish for the parts of the LGI which are to be vacated as it would be scandalous if the Great George Street building and the Brotherton wing are left vacant for too long. Is the Brotherton Wing even listed which if it isn't could make demolition of that a possibility of one of a few large art deco buildings in Leeds?



Surely the Great George Street building could make a fantastic five star hotel imo with perhaps the Brotherton Wing being converted into leisure / retail on the ground floor with offices above extending nightlife stuff available in Millennium Square. Also I guess the Brotherton Building could be the location for new centralised council offices which was once mooted several years back considering proximity to the Town Hall and Civic Hall.
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Old March 14th, 2012, 10:33 PM   #25
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Is the end of that building an extension or was it built originally with the rest of the building? The frames etc all seem plastic so was wondering if it was more modern.
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Old March 14th, 2012, 11:02 PM   #26
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Is the end of that building an extension or was it built originally with the rest of the building? The frames etc all seem plastic so was wondering if it was more modern.
That section is original, although the frames may have been replaced.
It was built at a time when "fresh air" was though to help cure people..
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Old March 14th, 2012, 11:43 PM   #27
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The Scott building of the LGI must stay as it is listed and, personally, I'd definitely want to keep it. The Brotherton Wing also still looks worth keeping. Everything in between however, including the Martin and Wellcome Wings ought to be flattened for the reasons given in posts above.

What to do with them? There are some good suggestions above. However, the Clarendon and Jubilee Wings are completely fit for purpose and represent a heavy financial investment. Add to that the proximity of Leeds University and its medical school, and I believe that the LGI must stay, at least in some form.

Perhaps the cleared area between the Scott and Brotherton buildings could provide the site for another new building (like the Clarendon and Jubilee). I do like the idea of utilising the Scott building for a museum - perhaps, as has been suggested, for the Thackray Medical Museum. There is no reason why this cannot be in close proximity to, or even surrounded by, modern hospital buildings. As for the Brotherton building, I have no strong feelings.

Now, having sorted that problem out(!), what about the old Medical School building?
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Old March 15th, 2012, 12:05 AM   #28
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The Scott building of the LGI must stay as it is listed and, personally, I'd definitely want to keep it. The Brotherton Wing also still looks worth keeping. Everything in between however, including the Martin and Wellcome Wings ought to be flattened for the reasons given in posts above.

What to do with them? There are some good suggestions above. However, the Clarendon and Jubilee Wings are completely fit for purpose and represent a heavy financial investment. Add to that the proximity of Leeds University and its medical school, and I believe that the LGI must stay, at least in some form.

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Now, having sorted that problem out(!), what about the old Medical School building?
For better or worse LTHT have decided that most adult services be centralised on the St James campus. There is still a lot of room for development on that campus, should the trust require it. LGI, on the other hand is land-locked and the re-development opportunities greater. The future for LGI (as the Trust currently sees it) lies in Paediatrics and Obstetrics/Gynaecology as well as acute Medicine/ICU and A&E. As pointed out Clarendon and Jubilee wings are recent additions and will not be going anywhere soon, everything else is fair game though!
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Old March 15th, 2012, 12:17 AM   #29
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For better or worse LTHT have decided that most adult services be centralised on the St James campus. There is still a lot of room for development on that campus, should the trust require it. LGI, on the other hand is land-locked and the re-development opportunities greater. The future for LGI (as the Trust currently sees it) lies in Paediatrics and Obstetrics/Gynaecology as well as acute Medicine/ICU and A&E. As pointed out Clarendon and Jubilee wings are recent additions and will not be going anywhere soon, everything else is fair game though!
I'm sure you're right. I know that Obs/Gynae and Paediatrics have been located in Clarendon since it opened. Similarly, A&E (and I think ICU, etc) is in the Jubilee wing.

However, haven't they centralised neurosurgery and cardiac surgery for the entire region in the Jubilee wing? If they go, there's going to be a lot of unused space. Also, those two specialisations would seem to benefit from the rooftop helicopter pad for emergencies. There isn't one of them at Jimmy's.
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Old March 15th, 2012, 12:29 AM   #30
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I think the Brotherton wing very obviously lends itself to being converted into accommodation, whether that be student flats or good sized apartments fronting onto millenium Square. The Great George street buildings would, as has been said, make a fantastic hotel, or otherwise, extension of University facilities, looking very oxbridge-y, which would be nice. Also, are the other buildings behind the GGS building (i.e. the one that's been brought up on leodis several times) and the Blundell Street/St George's road building, free?
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Old March 15th, 2012, 06:43 PM   #31
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The future for LGI (as the Trust currently sees it) lies in Paediatrics and Obstetrics/Gynaecology as well as acute Medicine/ICU and A&E. As pointed out Clarendon and Jubilee wings are recent additions and will not be going anywhere soon, everything else is fair game though!
I agree - it would be absolute madness to demolish modern, functional hospital buildings like those. I think it's very important to retain some hospital functions in the City Centre - particularly A&E.

The City Centre the most accessible part of Leeds for people without vehicle access and, let's face it, Harehills is a dive and you wouldn't want to go there on foot or hang around at a bus stop late at night.
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I think the Brotherton wing very obviously lends itself to being converted into accommodation, whether that be student flats or good sized apartments fronting onto millenium Square.
Suuuurely the market for student flats will dry up soon?! They'd make fantastic apartments I think - especially whichever ones had those fantastic semicircular balconies (although the lower ones would be a bit public for people to want to relax on!).
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Old March 15th, 2012, 08:51 PM   #33
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Is the Brotherton Wing even listed which if it isn't could make demolition of that a possibility of one of a few large art deco buildings in Leeds?
Someone was intending to demolish the Bortherton Wing when Millennium Square was under construction.

The dream move would be if Leeds University bought the LGI and made it a into a new south entrance.
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Old March 15th, 2012, 08:53 PM   #34
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Why will the market for student accommodation stop? There's about double the amount of students in Leeds now as there were 20 years ago, and Leeds Uni is moving towards more private accommodation and less of their own. I'm not convinced student numbers in the City will be affected by the rise in tuition fees either- the hardest hit will be random universities like Keele or Teesside, not the well-established city or ancient unis.

I agree that an A&E unit should remain in the City though, along with some of the other key hospital functions.
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Old March 15th, 2012, 08:57 PM   #35
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There was certainly a big plan to redevelop the Brotherton wing a few years ago that Leeds Civic Trust were bitterly opposed to. I think it involved additional floors being added, similar to that building on Park Row (which also has Portland stone cladding). It was rejected by LCC in the end.
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Re. my earlier post, what are they going to do with the Old Medical School building?
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Old March 15th, 2012, 10:58 PM   #37
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Re. my earlier post, what are they going to do with the Old Medical School building?
Apartments. Go a page or so on this thread
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No. I've had a quick look from the beginning and cannot see any references (other than my own) to the Old Medical School building. Do you know which post number?
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It's occupied by clinical sciences at the moment. It's a beautiful building, full of character with mosaic tiles and little spiral staircases.
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It's occupied by clinical sciences at the moment. It's a beautiful building, full of character with mosaic tiles and little spiral staircases.
Thanks for the information. I presume that Clinical Sciences is part of the University medical school? I think at one time it accommodated Chemical Pathology (again, part of the medical school).
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