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Old May 24th, 2006, 10:20 PM   #21
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There will be twin towers at NSS apparently. Broad Street and Paradise circus is quite obviosuly the best place for high-rises, its just a case of getting them built.
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Old May 24th, 2006, 10:31 PM   #22
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As long as Stephenson tower gets demolished at NSS, I'm happy. It's so ugly.

I am really not sure about Paradise Circus. If they can incorporate old architecture with the ultramodern (a little like Burlington Hotel on New Street) then it could be promising. It's a shame that so much of Birmingham was destroyed in WW2. The city witnessed two of the worst architectural periods of Birminghams history at that point: The loss of great old buildings, the construction of ugly concrete... things.
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Old May 24th, 2006, 10:37 PM   #23
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I get upset with the amazing buildings that were demolished in every city in the country, but for some reason Birmingham upsets me the most. Just to see what the bastards did to it after the war. It was like saying ok uve survived the war but were gonna knock u down anyway.

The birmingham library, stephenson place, etc etc etc etc etc etc etc
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Old May 25th, 2006, 01:53 PM   #24
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Pffft...its always 'next month' and construction is always due start 'next year'...

Show me bricks and mortar, glass and steel on site, then i'll be impressed..
There is already commitment to this site, the 19 storey Centenery Plaza apartment building is already up. When a start is made on demolishing the former Central Television Studios soon, then you can safely say the project is under way, & the development will be the UK's most spectacular office, retail & apartment scheme after London's Canary Wharf.
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Old May 25th, 2006, 02:06 PM   #25
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Lets hope so FLD.
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Old June 17th, 2006, 08:30 PM   #26
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Final confirmed height is 175m, reported today in Estates Gazette.

This is exceedingly good news for Birmingham, which is currently losing out to Manchester in the skyscraper stakes!
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Old June 17th, 2006, 08:35 PM   #27
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Carrying on from wjfox2002, it's going to have a very unusual roof feature.
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Old June 17th, 2006, 08:38 PM   #28
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This isn't necessarily the final design, but it gives an idea of what a 175m tower will look like compared with Birmingham's current tallest.

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Old June 18th, 2006, 05:19 PM   #29
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That diagram needs an update wheres our almighty Orion

Yep, very good news indeed. Should here some more later this week. I also shall point out, Brum is'nt losing out to Manchester ... its giving them a head start Brum will come into its own 07/08.

Its got some biggies lined up.
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Anything over 250 meters ? I doubt it...cause of the CAA rulings.
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Old June 18th, 2006, 06:24 PM   #31
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Anything over 250 meters ? I doubt it...cause of the CAA rulings.
And it just won't fit in anyway. It would dwarf anything else and stand out really strangely. You have to blend things and take baby steps before we get them lot in. Also, someone like John Reid or Ken Livingston would get a bit pissed off with the second city having something taller than the capital city.
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Old June 18th, 2006, 07:58 PM   #32
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Anything over 250 meters ? I doubt it...cause of the CAA rulings.
Huh?

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Members of Birmingham International Airport are to appear at "Cinderella Cities" conference in Birmingham from the 21st to 22nd June. There's talk of allowing a highrise zone within Birmingham City Centre which could allow skyscrapers much taller then what we are seeing at the moment. Cities represented include, Birmingham, Chicago, Frankfurt, Rotterdam, Milan, Lyon and Barcelona.

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*Tall buildings - symbols of urban transformation; density, planning, design, and viability.
*The Public Realm - a catalyst for urban renaissance - place making.
*Housing - building sustainable communities; the key to urban vitality.
*Culture - celebrating cornerstones of communmity; embracing diversity.
*Transportation - sustainability
*Leadership - cities by chance or by choice; development; competitiveness.
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Skyscrapers and Skylines – Symbols of Urban Transformation

The signature of a modern city is its skyline. High-rise buildings are transforming the face of European cities. This session will examine how tall buildings affect the economic fortunes of cities like Chicago, birthplace of the skyscraper, and others. Are high-rises the inevitable consequence of density? Challenges of realizing tall buildings from planning, design and technology to mixing uses and attracting finance will be explored. How do iconic tall buildings promote change and urban rejuvenation?
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Old June 30th, 2006, 09:21 PM   #33
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sudghusrnh! Martin G has the new renders!
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Old July 4th, 2006, 06:47 PM   #34
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http://www.skyscrapernews.com/news.php?ref=646

2006-07-04 > Second City Skyline Gets Second Chance

After years of apparently stalling in its commitment to building a skyscraping skyline, has Birmingham been handed a second chance?
In 1998, the city Birmingham publicly unveiled its ambition to become a skyscraper city. Naming itself as a "Mini-Manhattan" and launching prospects of 1,000ft skyscrapers, Birmingham was the place to be for developers with towering ambitions.
However, the months following Sept 11th, skyscrapers were no longer the fashionable assets cities wanted. Birmingham high-rise ambitions were watered down and the final nail in the coffin came with the publication of "High Places", Birmingham's very own but very restrictive high-rise policy.
This either resulted in the long delay in towering projects such as the 8 year old Arena Central Tower, the mass reduction in height of other buildings as was the case for Beethams Holloway Tower or all new towers built up to a strict height limit.
It would appear however, that the fortunes of skyscrapers in the city are about to change if a number or press releases and public announcements are to be believed. If this is the case, the week of 24th June 2006 could be the date that Birmingham's towering ambitions are set back on track.
Recent news reports stating that Birmingham city council were planning a shake up of the cities out-of-fashion high rise policy was confirmed this week by Clive Dutton, director of planning and regeneration at Birmingham city council.
"We're reassessing our tall building policy in light of the interest in them in recent years. We're looking at where we want to cluster them and how tall is tall?" admits Dutton.
The assessment comes as part of the wider 10 year master plan for the 2,000 acre city centre area inside the cities ring road. However, the cities stance on skyscrapers will not be known until autumn at the earliest although sources within the industry would suggest the city council will focus high-rise development around key city nodes, such as New Street Station, and Holloway and Lancaster Circus.
In response the city council may be in the process of changing their high-rise policy, wannabe skyscraper developers will still be limited by nation wide Civil Aviation Authority (CAA) height limits. With Birmingham city centre being located on a 110m sandstone ridge, and a national CAA height limit imposed at 242m, prospects of building higher than 130m would appear tricky at least, but not impossible.
Speaking last week in the cities Rep Theatre, world renowned architect Eric Kuhne unveiled his vision for the land mark tower to be located at Arena Centre: Arena Square Tower. Having been recently contracted to draw up designs for the tower at Arena Central, Kulne spoke of a tower unlike that of any tower in currently in the city, and the tallest tower outside the capital. On the face of it, many people may ask the question of how this is possible?
The answer lies in the second major revelation this week which has the potential to restart the towering ambitions of Birmingham: the confirmation that Birmingham International Airport (BIA) on behalf of the CAA now withdraw any objections to Arena Squares height following discussions with owners Miller Developments and Bridgehouse Capital. A committee report issued this week goes on to state...
"..having submitted an aerodrome safeguarding impact assessment ... the assessment has been considered by Birmingham International Airport, in conjunction with the Civil Aviation Authority. The airport have now written to confirm that the assessment demonstrates that a tower of up to 175m would be acceptable in aerodrome safeguarding ... They have therefore withdrawn their previous objection to the tower."
Having taken such a route, the BIA and the CAA have now created a president [sic] on how high Birmingham skyscrapers can be built. Towers such as Arena Square tower and Richardson Cordwells Broad Street Tower now stand the best chance of being built than they ever have in the past, and this in itself could trigger yet another boom in towering proposals in Birmingham.
With a number of towers in the city either in planning or approved ranging from 80-175m in height, Birmingham is building itself the skyline it wants rather than that set by diktat that saw the height of Holloway Circus Tower slashed. BCC and BIA are sending out the most positive signals to skyscraper schemes to date. A very restrictive high-rise policy has been called in and reviewed, and the local airport has decided to withdraw its objection to the tallest tower proposal in the city.
Will this move, however late it may be, attract other developers wishing to build big in the city or are things as good as they are going to get with Birmingham's High-rise vision? One thing is for sure however, Birmingham's skyline is changing.
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Old July 4th, 2006, 08:51 PM   #35
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You know, just when I was marvelling at how 'British' the city of Cape Town looks, I realized that this Birmingham development below...



...is sort of like The Icon development in Cape Town...



Anyways, I didn't mean to go off-topic, but I will have to look into Birmingham, if it's anything like beautiful Cape Town.

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Old January 16th, 2007, 09:25 PM   #36
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Birmingham Arena Central plans move forward

Lisa Pilkington 16/01/2007 10:45

Arena Central, Birmingham


Birmingham Council cabinet members are to meet next Monday to grant a new lease for the city's £400m Arena Central development.

The long awaited scheme, which is on a 7.6-acre site between Broad Street, Holliday Street and Suffolk Street, has consent for more than 2m sq ft of offices, residential, retail and leisure.

Birmingham council is the freeholder of the majority of the site. The new lease, to be granted on the 22nd January, will enable developers Arena Central Developments (ACD) to bring the scheme forward.

ACD is a joint venture between Miller Developments and Andy Ruhan's Bridgehouse Capital.

Isle of Man-based developer Dandara is to develop Arena Tower, the 50-storey centrepiece of the development, which will sit next to the existing Alpha Tower.

Cabinet Member for Regeneration Councillor Ken Hardeman, said: "It's vital that we do all we can to enable the developers to bring the scheme to fruition."

The council was advised by GBR Property Consultants.
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Old January 16th, 2007, 09:41 PM   #37
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I got an email from Miller that they are finallising plans. Finally that's one part of the Birmingham laughing stock dissipating in the city bashing forums.
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Old January 16th, 2007, 10:18 PM   #38
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Old January 18th, 2007, 03:17 AM   #39
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Believe it when I see it.
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Old January 27th, 2007, 02:00 AM   #40
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Can we please all take a deep breath ...

Count to 3.

1


2


3

http://www.pipers.co.uk/pm/model.php?id=118


Worth the wait? Was it bollocks. Try waiting 10 years for this lump of shit.
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