ONCF: Trains and Railways News - Page 3

nwusaad · June 17th, 2006, 07:32 AM

i think it will definitely be very expensive investment. The smart thing is to contract a credit from the EU, and give the project to the French firms. On the other hand, an important way is to give the exclusive concession to the company itself.
This has the advantage of giving it to the private, and also minimizing the investment from the government funds.

The problem that has to be thought about though, is similar to one thought of by China. That is, all the people that initially tended to have hotels and motels...in the road between different cities will die off. Travelers would not need to stop in those places.
-On the other hand, it will decrease the number of accidents and congestion in road traffic.
- The TGV is subsistuting good of airplanes. People will therefore start using the TGV rather than take the plane between national tickets. Hence, the investment in the airports should be directed towards the TGV project.

Bodrum · June 17th, 2006, 09:18 PM

I'm wondering how expensive will be the tickets... Well, they're not building TGV only for tourists, right?

Yazoo · June 23rd, 2006, 01:56 PM

The first train of a series of 24, made by the Italian group Ansaldobreda on behalf of Morocco, will arrive in the port of Casablanca on July 9.

The remaining trains will be delivered at the pace of two trains per month until July 2007, announced the Minister of Equipment and Transports, Karim Ghellab.

The minister, accompanied by the director general of the National Office for Railroads (ONCF) and a team of technicians of the Office, paid Monday a visit to the workshop where these trains are manufactured in Pistoia (Florence region), reported MAP news agency.

The aim of the visit was to check the conformity of these trains to the Moroccan request and to give the green light for their delivery.

Ghellab indicated, on this occasion, that these trains will start working on the Casablanca-Fez axis, from the end of the year, when work on the line linking Rabat and Fez is finished.

He added that the trip's duration will be reduced significantly, from three hours and a half to two hours and a quarter.

The minister also stressed that the arrival of these trains will increase the capacities of the ONCF by approximately 40%.

This “will allow it to pursue the development of rail transport in Morocco, which has seen an average increase of 11% per annum, during the last four years,” which represents more than 21 million passengers a year, he said.

With a cost of almost MAD 2 billion, the contract for manufacturing these trains of 400 places each, was signed two years ago, following a public tender.

Yazoo · June 23rd, 2006, 02:10 PM

Picture Of the new trains...

Sanlucar-Playa · June 25th, 2006, 12:26 AM

¡Excelentes noticias!

Gracias por compartirlas.

Excelents news!

Thank you to share them.

Aícha · June 25th, 2006, 02:30 AM

He visto un reportaje en 2M, estos trenes seran de color gris con banda naranja y con el nuevo logo de ONCF, estos trenes seran diseñados para alcanzar los 160 km/h (en Italia estan diseñados para alcanzar los 140 km/h).

Aícha · June 25th, 2006, 02:40 AM

Estos trenes seran hechon básicamente para cubrir el trayecto Casablanca Fez, cuando ya terminen el doblamiento del último tramo Meknes Fez, estos trenes unirán Casablanca con Fez en tan sólo 3 horas.

Casa · June 25th, 2006, 05:24 AM

por favor podeis escribir in engles porque la majoria de nosotros no entiede el espanol
gracias

Aícha · June 25th, 2006, 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Casa

por favor podeis escribir in engles porque la majoria de nosotros no entiede el espanol
gracias

Tampoco hay gente que hable holandés
Er zijn ook mensen die niet nederlands spreken

Harkeb · June 26th, 2006, 06:57 AM

Are those european style double decker trains? Theyd be the best in Africa then!

Yazoo · June 26th, 2006, 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by harkerb

Are those european style double decker trains? Theyd be the best in Africa then!

Yes they are an improved double-decker version of the ones already used in Italy. According to the ONCF they have been chosen due to the similarity of the moroccan railway system with that of italy.

The italian ones look like this:

Casa · June 27th, 2006, 01:30 AM

great that means that they are not just the best trains in africa but also better than some in europe

Aícha · July 13th, 2006, 08:11 PM

Station of Sidi Kacem

nwusaad · July 14th, 2006, 04:57 AM

Thats great that the government is finally enhancing the train system. I feel they are probably trying to privatize the company too. Thats why they are investing so heavily on those technologies

AntonAmeneiro · August 5th, 2006, 02:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soufian

The Spanish trains are even worser than Moroccan ones, but not on the primary tracks.
However, morocco's rail system isn't so bad if you compare it with others

Hahaha, it's ok you want to support your country and stuff... but do you have to lie for that? Show me a Moroccan train that is better than our oldest train

empersouf · August 5th, 2006, 10:26 PM

Well. A train from Madrid to Algeciras takes longer than Tanger to Marrakech while they use kind of similar trains.
Only the AVE is nice in spain, and that one that runs along the mediteranean.

Aícha · August 5th, 2006, 11:02 PM

Madrid-Ferrol 700km se hace en 12h sí 12 horas.

Aícha · August 5th, 2006, 11:26 PM

The railway system of Morocco is one of the best of Africa, not only it but also is integrated in in the European system (Interrail for example) since it fulfills the recheese wedges necessary for it to be.

Aícha · August 5th, 2006, 11:28 PM

empersouf · August 6th, 2006, 01:09 AM

On the road between Tetouan and Tanger I saw a really high viaduct u/c. It is for the new railroad between T. and T.

June 17th, 2006, 07:32 AM	#41
nwusaad Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 147 Likes (Received): 0	Ideas about the TGV i think it will definitely be very expensive investment. The smart thing is to contract a credit from the EU, and give the project to the French firms. On the other hand, an important way is to give the exclusive concession to the company itself. This has the advantage of giving it to the private, and also minimizing the investment from the government funds. The problem that has to be thought about though, is similar to one thought of by China. That is, all the people that initially tended to have hotels and motels...in the road between different cities will die off. Travelers would not need to stop in those places. -On the other hand, it will decrease the number of accidents and congestion in road traffic. - The TGV is subsistuting good of airplanes. People will therefore start using the TGV rather than take the plane between national tickets. Hence, the investment in the airports should be directed towards the TGV project.

June 17th, 2006, 09:18 PM	#42
Bodrum Ale głupi ci Rzymianie Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Trojměstí / Europa Neurotisch Posts: 1,664 Likes (Received): 7	I'm wondering how expensive will be the tickets... Well, they're not building TGV only for tourists, right? __________________ Oh, you don't know, you don't know... Gdynia Cisowa // Kraków Salwator // Berlin Friedrichshain // Warszawa Wawer // Praha Bubeneč

June 23rd, 2006, 01:56 PM	#43
Yazoo Registered User Join Date: May 2006 Location: New York City Posts: 495 Likes (Received): 0	Railway: ONCF to add 24 trains to its fleet The first train of a series of 24, made by the Italian group Ansaldobreda on behalf of Morocco, will arrive in the port of Casablanca on July 9. The remaining trains will be delivered at the pace of two trains per month until July 2007, announced the Minister of Equipment and Transports, Karim Ghellab. The minister, accompanied by the director general of the National Office for Railroads (ONCF) and a team of technicians of the Office, paid Monday a visit to the workshop where these trains are manufactured in Pistoia (Florence region), reported MAP news agency. The aim of the visit was to check the conformity of these trains to the Moroccan request and to give the green light for their delivery. Ghellab indicated, on this occasion, that these trains will start working on the Casablanca-Fez axis, from the end of the year, when work on the line linking Rabat and Fez is finished. He added that the trip's duration will be reduced significantly, from three hours and a half to two hours and a quarter. The minister also stressed that the arrival of these trains will increase the capacities of the ONCF by approximately 40%. This “will allow it to pursue the development of rail transport in Morocco, which has seen an average increase of 11% per annum, during the last four years,” which represents more than 21 million passengers a year, he said. With a cost of almost MAD 2 billion, the contract for manufacturing these trains of 400 places each, was signed two years ago, following a public tender.

June 25th, 2006, 05:24 AM	#48
Casa Casa hiya mdinti Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Casablanca Posts: 183 Likes (Received): 0	por favor podeis escribir in engles porque la majoria de nosotros no entiede el espanol gracias __________________ MOROCCO FORUM

June 27th, 2006, 01:30 AM	#52
Casa Casa hiya mdinti Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Casablanca Posts: 183 Likes (Received): 0	great that means that they are not just the best trains in africa but also better than some in europe __________________ MOROCCO FORUM

June 23rd, 2006, 02:10 PM	#44
Yazoo Registered User Join Date: May 2006 Location: New York City Posts: 495 Likes (Received): 0	Picture Of the new trains...

June 25th, 2006, 12:26 AM	#45
Sanlucar-Playa Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Any place at the seaside Posts: 1,229 Likes (Received): 2	¡Excelentes noticias! Gracias por compartirlas. Excelents news! Thank you to share them.

June 25th, 2006, 02:30 AM	#46
Aícha BANNED Join Date: May 2006 Location: Meknès مكناس Morocco المغرب Posts: 119 Likes (Received): 0	He visto un reportaje en 2M, estos trenes seran de color gris con banda naranja y con el nuevo logo de ONCF, estos trenes seran diseñados para alcanzar los 160 km/h (en Italia estan diseñados para alcanzar los 140 km/h).

June 25th, 2006, 02:40 AM	#47
Aícha BANNED Join Date: May 2006 Location: Meknès مكناس Morocco المغرب Posts: 119 Likes (Received): 0	Estos trenes seran hechon básicamente para cubrir el trayecto Casablanca Fez, cuando ya terminen el doblamiento del último tramo Meknes Fez, estos trenes unirán Casablanca con Fez en tan sólo 3 horas.

June 26th, 2006, 06:57 AM	#50
Harkeb BANNED Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Cape Town, Seoul Posts: 2,674 Likes (Received): 1	Are those european style double decker trains? Theyd be the best in Africa then!

July 13th, 2006, 08:11 PM	#53
Aícha BANNED Join Date: May 2006 Location: Meknès مكناس Morocco المغرب Posts: 119 Likes (Received): 0	Station of Sidi Kacem

July 14th, 2006, 04:57 AM	#54
nwusaad Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 147 Likes (Received): 0	Thats great that the government is finally enhancing the train system. I feel they are probably trying to privatize the company too. Thats why they are investing so heavily on those technologies

August 5th, 2006, 10:26 PM	#56
empersouf Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 4,230 Likes (Received): 1	Well. A train from Madrid to Algeciras takes longer than Tanger to Marrakech while they use kind of similar trains. Only the AVE is nice in spain, and that one that runs along the mediteranean.

August 5th, 2006, 11:02 PM	#57
Aícha BANNED Join Date: May 2006 Location: Meknès مكناس Morocco المغرب Posts: 119 Likes (Received): 0	Madrid-Ferrol 700km se hace en 12h sí 12 horas.

August 5th, 2006, 11:26 PM	#58
Aícha BANNED Join Date: May 2006 Location: Meknès مكناس Morocco المغرب Posts: 119 Likes (Received): 0	The railway system of Morocco is one of the best of Africa, not only it but also is integrated in in the European system (Interrail for example) since it fulfills the recheese wedges necessary for it to be.

August 5th, 2006, 11:28 PM	#59
Aícha BANNED Join Date: May 2006 Location: Meknès مكناس Morocco المغرب Posts: 119 Likes (Received): 0

August 6th, 2006, 01:09 AM	#60
empersouf Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 4,230 Likes (Received): 1	On the road between Tetouan and Tanger I saw a really high viaduct u/c. It is for the new railroad between T. and T.

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