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Old March 22nd, 2012, 11:07 PM   #2221
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CONGRATULATION Paris : great trolling almost as beautiful as the French capital itself <3
The link below (2 hours before my post) prooves that there is indeed a controversy about it and that you'll have... your hour of glory as well :

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpo...postcount=4190
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Old March 23rd, 2012, 01:07 AM   #2222
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MCT will be at 1 meter higher than observation deck of Ostankino TV Tower (337 m, Moscow)!
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Old March 23rd, 2012, 01:30 AM   #2223
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Where did you get this information?
The most it got to is a little over 300 meters which happened a couple days ago.
There's actually some controversy on the Shard's final height. Some say 310 m, some say 309 m. The CTBUH has it at 306 m:
http://skyscrapercenter.com/building...uilding_id=451


Speaking of final heights, does anybody know when Mercury City is expected to top out?
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Old March 23rd, 2012, 01:55 AM   #2224
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MCT will be at 1 meter higher than observation deck of Ostankino TV Tower (337 m, Moscow)!
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Old March 23rd, 2012, 02:25 AM   #2225
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OK.

I made this mistake because of the forum of the Shard itself.
Somebody showed on March 9 a drawing of the finished tower with the very long... last glass panels of 10 m high like on the diagram above [PS : this diagram and its post which were just above have been suppressed while I was answering !] but several... others denied it... (see the photos below) and showed a drawing were the last panel was about the same height than the 7 superposed metallic "squares" composing the structure of the pinacles put on March 17 (8 lenghts in total).
So, as somebody said on Wikipedia that the Shard had reached the level of MCT and since I couldn't find the precised actual height of Shard on its forum... for this day..., I considered 309(1)-285 = 24/8 = 3 m for the last panel and consequently 3 x 7 = 21 + 285 = 306 m for the tower height on March 17 !!
(1) height on their posts.
Now if you say that the last panels will be the long ones of 10 m (rather dangerous in case of storm !), the Shard has indeed never reached the level of MCT.
In the other case, if the last Shard glass panel is indeed 3 m high, as I first calculated, the Shard with 306 m on March 17, 2012 didn't reached neither MCT with already 306.30... m on February 28.
I had to read this 4 times to understand you.
So i get that the photo made the building (Shard) look longer and some fail journalist didn't take notes and wrote that the Shard was as tall as MCT on Wikipedia. So you assumed it was 306 meters...etc
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Old March 23rd, 2012, 02:28 AM   #2226
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What race? Mercury is already higher than Shard will ever be.
Dude, did you even pay attention to the time he posted that?? Hint: (it was before any building made history)
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Old March 23rd, 2012, 03:05 AM   #2227
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I had to read this 4 times to understand you.
So i get that the photo made the building (Shard) look longer and some fail journalist didn't take notes and wrote that the Shard was as tall as MCT on Wikipedia. So you assumed it was 306 meters...etc
Yes. If the person who said on Wikipedia that the Shard had reached the same level than MCT (about 306 m) made the same calculation than me, but more probably with the modified drawing.
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Old March 23rd, 2012, 04:16 AM   #2228
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Speaking of final heights, does anybody know when Mercury City is expected to top out?
Given that the russians still... talk of heights varying between 326.86 m and 338 m ;
Given that they talk of the addition of the equivalent of 5 levels above level 70, which should normally correspond to about 326 m instead ;
Given that we don't know if they mean that the remaining meters are a spire or if those 5 levels are higher than the other ones and reach indeed 338 m ;
Given than the higher they are, the longer they strangely take to be built, although they become smaller and smaller... ;
Given that the construction of a level varied between 6 days (#58) and... 66 days (#67) and the last 4 levels took an average time of 23 days each ;
Given that these differences of time are incomprehensible since they didn't correspond to the beginning or end of a bias and didn't seem to be concerned by the low temperatures ;
Given that the last levels will really get smaller and really smaller and should "normally" take less time, nevertheless ;
Given the average speed of the wind in spring ;
Given the age of the step sister of the captain ;
I would, as a true shadock, reply : GA-ZO-BU

Or "perhaps" 4 months ?!
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Old March 24th, 2012, 05:45 PM   #2229
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Old March 24th, 2012, 07:28 PM   #2230
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Looks like they've resumed the cladding installation. I see a new row started.
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Old March 24th, 2012, 08:11 PM   #2231
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Old March 25th, 2012, 05:19 PM   #2232
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MCT will be at 1 meter higher than observation deck of Ostankino TV Tower (337 m, Moscow)!
So your point is that rumoured 338 m height of the MCT roof or a pinnacle will be one meter higher than 337 m level of Ostankino observation desk floor?
Great!

BTW, just above the observation desk there are something like 4 levels with different equipment and some personnnel.
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Old March 26th, 2012, 12:14 AM   #2233
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Old March 26th, 2012, 01:40 PM   #2234
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[QUOTE=RandomNameTag;89719599]There's actually some controversy on the Shard's final height. Some say 310 m, some say 309 m. The CTBUH has it at 306 m:
http://skyscrapercenter.com/building...uilding_id=451


The Shard is 310.3 m. measured from AOD (Above Ordinance Datum), which is basically above average sea level. The height from the lowest significant open-air pedestrian entrance is 306.00 m. to the pinnacle. The CTBUH does not measure structures from sea level.
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Old March 26th, 2012, 01:57 PM   #2235
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MCT would be 457m tall then 327 + 130
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Old March 26th, 2012, 02:13 PM   #2236
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This tower's looking great - fantastic progress, and the cladding certainly makes it stand out from the rest of the cluster. Is this getting noticed/talked about/photographed by a lot by people in the city, or is it "just another building" and not really getting any attention?
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There's actually some controversy on the Shard's final height. Some say 310 m, some say 309 m. The CTBUH has it at 306 m:
http://skyscrapercenter.com/building...uilding_id=451
The Shard is 310.3 m. measured from AOD (Above Ordinance Datum), which is basically above average sea level. The height from the lowest significant open-air pedestrian entrance is 306.00 m. to the pinnacle. The CTBUH does not measure structures from sea level.
Pretty much - it's 306m to the top of the steelwork, but the glass facade goes slightly higher, finishing at 309m, which is the Shard's official AGL height (above ground level). Then as Vito Corleone says, it's just over 310m above sea level, but the official height is 309m.
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Old March 26th, 2012, 05:19 PM   #2237
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I am going to try to get a more detailed drawing of the top of The Shard. I believe you are correct in saying that the highest piece of glass goes a bit beyond 306m above ground level.
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in any way MCT is ~311-312m at the moment, so shard will never overtake it.
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Old March 26th, 2012, 09:13 PM   #2239
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Old March 27th, 2012, 12:27 AM   #2240
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This tower's looking great - fantastic progress, and the cladding certainly makes it stand out from the rest of the cluster. Is this getting noticed/talked about/photographed by a lot by people in the city, or is it "just another building" and not really getting any attention?
Well, because the whole cluster is not within easily walkable distance from popular tourist spots like Kremlin, you may walk all day around Moscow's historical downtown and never notice any modern skyscrapers if you stay at ground level. So most people come to IBC on purpose, and I believe it's the whole cluster that works as attention grabber, not any single tower.

On a sunny sunset MCT certainly stands from the crowd though.
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