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Old July 28th, 2012, 04:17 PM   #2501
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I soon will visit Moscow, I'm gonna take a look at this tower.
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Old July 28th, 2012, 04:29 PM   #2502
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This photo shows that the LAST and higher (9 m?) level #76 (if we consider #75 to be double, with its upper concrete blind level) is now in construction since July 25, with the top of the iron bars at about 335 m IMO.

It lacks only the height of the triangular tip of concrete on the diagram below, which is now confirmed to be the good one ! Unfortunately, no russian has been able so far to give us the EXACT and PRECISE heights of the corresponding and really built levels above #70 and above all of the crucial floor of level #72 and its thickness...
This inconsistency delights a certain Sionk on Wikipedia who can thus answer that no absolute proof is given that MCT reached, last March, 310 m before the Shard (this is nevertheless certain as far as the vertical iron bars are taken in count). I'm not far from thinking that the russians deserve it.

See my day to day photos' explanation and try to answer to the question in bold red please, at the end... of the post there (updated) :
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpo...postcount=2428

The tower (without eventual spire) should be about 339 m high IMO.

I THINK THAT THE TOWER COULD TOP OUT ON LATE AUGUST ! IF NOT, IN SEPTEMBER.
I think too that the height in the title of this thread will have to be changed since it is no less approximative to choose the 343 m or 336 m respectively calculated by GoR_Vrn and mr.MyXin, than the 332 m indicated, when the unfinished tower, now at the half of its last level #76, has already reached about... 338 m according to the diagram made by GoR_Vrn or about 332 m according to the one of mr. MyXiN ! 335 m IMO.
See : http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpo...postcount=2430

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Nneznajka на 1 этаж меньше, смотри по этому чертежу. Где то в районе кабины крана топаут будет.


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Old July 29th, 2012, 11:51 PM   #2503
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29.07.2012 Застеклили уже почти до конца.
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They nearly completed the cladding


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Old July 30th, 2012, 01:37 AM   #2504
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Thanks Donodöner,
with this big "hole" on the left of the last image, now I understand why I couldn't find... images of the achieved floor of level #72 (and 71) on the slant side ! I'm wondering if the floor of level #72 makes a zigzag, on the left behind the boards, like the one of level #71 ?

So you don't know the exact height of floor #72 neither ?

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Судя по выпускам косой арматуры, я делаю
вывод, что сейчас идёт последний уровень

http://photofile.ru/users/kirgam/4016491/98998364
This image was taken few hours before the one of Ivan, since there are less... iron pilars ! We cannot already see, above the small one over the P (R) of Mercury, the one appearing on the far right of Ivan's photo. That shows how it goes fast now !

Man from K-town, reduce the size of your photo below please.
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Old July 30th, 2012, 11:54 AM   #2505
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july 27

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Old August 1st, 2012, 10:20 AM   #2506
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Old August 1st, 2012, 07:31 PM   #2507
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Old August 2nd, 2012, 12:29 AM   #2508
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Almost ready

How long will cladding take until its finished?
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Old August 2nd, 2012, 03:20 PM   #2509
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july 21, nice perspective

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Old August 2nd, 2012, 03:42 PM   #2510
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Great pictures.
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Old August 2nd, 2012, 04:31 PM   #2511
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july 21, nice perspective
July 21 of 2011.

You can see it because MCT was lower than CoC back then.
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Old August 2nd, 2012, 09:01 PM   #2512
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Great view from up there
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Old August 2nd, 2012, 11:16 PM   #2513
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July 21 of 2011.

You can see it because MCT was lower than CoC back then.
Indeed these pics are outdated even if beautiful
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Old August 3rd, 2012, 05:01 PM   #2514
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http://www.mercury-city.com/members/architects
From the website quoted above (apparently the architectural agency of Михаил Михайлович Посохин):
M. M. Посохин: http://www.mosproject2.ru/project_popup.asp?id=113 (70 levels and a final triangular blind tip: image of 8 March 2012).
On the top left, you can notice a 3 levels glass structure on the penultimate slant.
M. M. Посохин: http://www.posokhin.ru/projects/delo...skva_siti.html (70 levels and a final triangular blind tip. Notice the same glass structure: image of 8 March 2012):
Технико-экономические показатели:
Общая площадь здания — 158 528 кв.м, в т.ч.:
170 квартир — 23 912 кв.м
офисы — 85 792 кв.м
общественная часть — 14 480 кв.м
технические помещения — 16 334 кв.м
подземная автостоянка на 462 машиноместа — 18 010 кв.м
Этажность — 70 эт.
Максимальная высота — 332 м (со шпилем — 380 м)

Frank Williams/Ф. Уильямс †: http://www.fw-p.com/default.aspx?pag...ct=319&focus=3 (70 levels and a final triangular blind tip: image of 8 january 2012).
The glass structure being absent on the slant, the top falsely appears higher.

Tower website : http://www.mercury-city.com/mercury/infrastructure (70 levels and a final triangular blind tip: image of 8 March 2012).
The glass structure is as well absent on the slant here.

О проекте:
Общая площадь здания: 180 160 м2
в т.ч. – надземная часть: 148 650 м2
- подземная часть: 31 510 м2
Высота здания: 326,86 м
70 надземных этажей и 5 подземных уровней
Офисы*: 87 600 м2
Апартаменты** (137 шт.+пентхаус): 20 000 м2
Клубный этаж для жителей апартаментов: 1 442 м2
Ресторан, кафе, столовая для арендаторов*: 2 535 м2
Торговые помещения*: 1 176 м2
Подземный паркинг: 444 м/м

Офисы/Технические характеристики:
— Арендуемая площадь офисов – 87 600 м2
— Соcтояние отделки - shell&core («под отделку»)
Высота потолка от перекрытия до перекрытия - 4.44м
в «чистоте» - 4.14м

Пресс-центр/Новости:
12 Марта 2012
Новое «солнце» столицы – завершение остекления золотой башни «Меркурий Сити»
Эксклюзивное остекление башни «Меркурий Сити» при существующем темпе — на данный момент осуществляется на уровне 43 этажа — будет законченно в августе 2012 года.
Завершение остекления будет знаменовать собой финализацию проекта — ГК намечена на конец 2012 года. Благодаря индивидуальному витражному остеклению, небоскреб станет одной из самых привлекательных архитектурных построек в Москве.

Below, the original section of the tower on January 2, 2007 with a concrete top around 327 m? and a spire at 380 m, 70 levels + 1 technical floor:
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The former images are OBVIOUSLY different from the NEW top of the tower which appears to be higher, on the images below :

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpo...postcount=5032 (enlarge at 200% for the same scale): "76" levels and a final triangular blind tip: image of 23 July 2012.
http://www.mercury-city.com/upload/i...1d1e207321.jpg: confirmed (diagram on the wall) by the tower website: image of 8 March 2012!
As well on the 3rd image of this video http://mercury-city.com/offices/ (right clic to stop the image).

Contacts:
http://www.mosproject2.ru/contacts.asp?pageID=6&
http://www.fw-p.com/default.aspx?page=11
http://www.mercury-city.com/contacts

Below: then the modified tower's top, with the top of level 70 at 322 m and top of the tower at 339 m (339.87 m at scale) and without spire, 70 levels + 1 very... large or X technical floors.
Notice too the lower glass structure of only 1 level on the (here) antepenultimate slant and the projection of the top to the right :
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Now, photo below, with top of level "76" still at 339 or 340 m and without spire, 75 levels + 1 technical floor. This is what is REALLY buit now!:
(you can notice that, if you enlarge this diagram of 165% and superposes it to the other one on a tracing paper or reduces the page to 50% to see both diagrams and make an easier comparison)
The glass structure is only 1 level high too here. The blind level 70A is at the same place.
The facade on the left of the tower's top is at the same place after the slant and its roof is just risen of 3 new levels in order to suppress its zigzag form.
But the projection of the facade on the right of the tower's top is suppressed and you've got even an additional setback. So despite the modification of the top's form, the height of the tower on both diagrams is corresponding... exactly = 339 m IMO!
Have you noticed too that above this additional setback the ceiling of level 75 is reinforced and projects itself into the void. It could be to hold a spire passing through it... and based on the as well reinforced floor of level 70A. Consequently, the spire is not so certain to have been suppressed IMO!
The drawing of the equivalent of 2 levels is suppressed on the former design, since above level 70A they are 4.4 m high instead of 3.7 m.

SO IT'S TIME NOW TO CHANGE THE HEIGHT OF THE TOWER ON THE THREAD FROM 332 M TO 340 M IMO!

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Nneznajka на 1 этаж меньше, смотри по этому чертежу. Где то в районе кабины крана топаут будет.

We can still see a spire on the scale model below:
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Всего на этаж другой повыше от этого макета


«Mercury-city tower» на Яндекс.Фотках
The reinforced projecting structure at level 70A and 70B (instead of 69 and 70A on the diagram section) is visible on this photo (down right) :
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27 June 2012
So, what is it made for, if not for a spire base?

Recall :
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpo...postcount=2428
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpo...postcount=2502
So, on 24-27 March 2012, the concrete structure reached the top of the pilars and the ceiling of level 71. So IMO 305.62+4.4-0.60 (floor thickness) = 309.42 and 18 cm... below the Shard's top out at 309.60 m on 25-30 March 2012.
But on 22 March 2012, the iron structure had already reached about the ceiling of level 72 so above 313 m (313.22 m?).
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Old August 3rd, 2012, 06:59 PM   #2515
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Old August 4th, 2012, 04:57 PM   #2517
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I've send that to M. M. Посохину :

Mercury City Tower's final height (and height of "technical floors" "71" and "72")

Dear M. Посохину,

Could you tell me if the final height of Mercury City Tower (technical floors included) will be : 332 m or 340 m? And if the spire is really cancelled.
I'd like to know as well the exact height above ground of the 2 levels, now built, immediately following level 70. and their floor's thickness (60 cm?).
Thank you
Yours faithfully
etc...

You can try as well :

http://www.mosproject2.ru/contacts.asp?pageID=6&

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Old August 5th, 2012, 03:53 PM   #2518
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Good one, erdnisloed! Let's see what they say.
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