RIO DE JANEIRO - Estádio Olímpico João Havelange (46,931)

[Lonesome Traveler]

Originally Posted by Bobby3

Isn't the Olimpico owned by Gremio?

The Olímpico is the name of Gremio stadium and has nothing to do with the Olympic stadium for the Olympic Games.

[ReiAyanami]

Originally Posted by Wey

So, there's no real attachment to the athletics venue whatsoever? Maracanã (which will host soccer) could be the "reference venue"?

Anyway my comment was sarcastic about this whole discussion in the previous page.

The point is:

The Olympic Stadium is the main venue of the games, which means the venue for the athletics. The opening ceremony was not introduced, as we know it now, for some time. I'm not 100% sure but the IOC says the Olympic flame must be visible from within this stadium. That is probably the reason why both stadiums will have the flame. Maracana cause you can't have a ceremony without flame, and the other one cause you can't have an Olympic stadium without a flame. What does all this mean? That Estádio Olímpico João Havelange is 2016 Olympic stadium, and Maracana a football venue.

[Jim856796]

Aha! That may be the primary reason why the Jornalista Mario Filho Stadium cannot, must not, should not, and will not serve as the main olympic stadium in Rio de Janeiro. I don't care if an expanded Havelange Stadium is too small. 60000 should be the minimum for the Olympic ceremonies. Plus I'm worried about the placement of the cauldron in the Maracana Stadium. An Olympic Stadium has to have a cauldron burning throughout the 16-day period. There was no cauldron in the 2007 Pan Am Games, so the cauldron must go in the Joao Stadium.

Originally Posted by schmidt

IMO if they use this stadium as the main olympic one, it will be one of the dullest I've ever seen.

It's not going to be a dull stadium, Schmidt. Rio just has to follow protocol. Sorry.

[ReiAyanami]

Is this a bit too early to discuss about? Hell, there won't even be the SSC in 2016 for all I know, when the server time will end....

[Jim856796]

The hell with that! The world ain't gonna end as long as there are several events, especially sports-related, to be held even beyond 2012. I don't believe in that flarging Mayan Calendar crap. Lousy Nostradamus probably proposed that idea.

[ReiAyanami]

What are you talking about? I said that SSC server might go down before 2016, what do Maya have to do with that?????

BTW, It is just me, but it is a bit disappointing to see the main venue ready from now. I mean, all the excitement of the construction, the preparations, wonder how it will look like, etc, etc, it won't be there.....

[Jim856796]

Why is the SSC server going down, anyway?

[ReiAyanami]

Originally Posted by Jim856796

Why is the SSC server going down, anyway?

Just something that I read in "About the Forums" section. Since I can't find it now, just forget about it.

[MoreOrLess]

Originally Posted by Jim856796

Aha! That may be the primary reason why the Jornalista Mario Filho Stadium cannot, must not, should not, and will not serve as the main olympic stadium in Rio de Janeiro. I don't care if an expanded Havelange Stadium is too small. 60000 should be the minimum for the Olympic ceremonies. Plus I'm worried about the placement of the cauldron in the Maracana Stadium. An Olympic Stadium has to have a cauldron burning throughout the 16-day period. There was no cauldron in the 2007 Pan Am Games, so the cauldron must go in the Joao Stadium.

It's not going to be a dull stadium, Schmidt. Rio just has to follow protocol. Sorry.

You didnt have a clue about your "primary reason" until someone mentioned it as your a kid who posts with a nationalistic agenda.

Personally what I'd do in that this situation is turn it to your advanage and have the Cauldron/flame move between venues after its lit, maybe by helicopter to give some nice overhead shots of the city or though the streets on some kind of vechical. That would be an event that involved more than just those in the stadiums themselves.

[salaverryo]

Originally Posted by Capital78

In official page of Brazil 2016 is clearly written that this stadium will host athletic venues! But it's far too small.

Not really. The Olympic Stadium in Montjuic (Barcelona) had a capacity of 55 thousand.

[ReiAyanami]

Originally Posted by salaverryo

Not really. The Olympic Stadium in Montjuic (Barcelona) had a capacity of 55 thousand.

around 70k during the Olympics

[salaverryo]

Originally Posted by ReiAyanami

around 70k during the Olympics

That is what Wikipedia says, but there's no proof. Besides, between 55 and 70 thousand there is a 15 thousand difference. That's a lot of people. I watched those Olympics on TV and the stadium didn't seem to have any additional seats. Where did they put those 15 thousand extra spectators?

[ExSydney]

Originally Posted by salaverryo

That is what Wikipedia says, but there's no proof. Besides, between 55 and 70 thousand there is a 15 thousand difference. That's a lot of people. I watched those Olympics on TV and the stadium didn't seem to have any additional seats. Where did they put those 15 thousand extra spectators?

There was no extra seating in 1992.There certainly was not 70,000 seats.I seem to remember 60,000.Way too small for an Olympic Stadium.

[RobH]

And yet still one of the best games ever.

[Pedrop.rio]

Originally Posted by Jim856796

There was no cauldron in the 2007 Pan Am Games, so the cauldron must go in the Joao Stadium.

Yes, there was a Cauldron in the 2007 Pan Am. And it was placed in Maracanã, burning during throughout the entire period.

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But it was strange to watch Athletics without a burning flame in the background, though.

[Jim856796]

Originally Posted by RobH

It will be comparatively small when put alongside other Olympic stadiums, but it's the atmosphere which counts

Only Barcelona's 1992 Olympic Stadium will have been smaller than the expanded Engenhao Stadium (not counting any pre-1932 Olympic Stadiums). Barcelona's was 56,000, the fact that it was expanded to 70000 for the Olympics was untrue, It never expanded in capacity and has always remained at 56000 after its reconstruction for the Olympics.

[Jim856796]

I checked the Google imagery on the Engenhao Stadium and I wondered what those old buildings to the southwest of the Enhenhao Stadium are supposed to be.

[Cobucci]

Originally Posted by Jim856796

I checked the Google imagery on the Engenhao Stadium and I wondered what those old buildings to the southwest of the Enhenhao Stadium are supposed to be.

I think it was some kind of garage for trains in the past. They plan to refurbish these buildings, but no special use was indicated yet.

[pawel19-87]

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http://www.flickr.com/photos/kizaosilva/4714721691/

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http://www.flickr.com/photos/diegotovar/4478213425/

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http://www.flickr.com/photos/46393474@N05/4738218237/

[Mo Rush]

Here is my Olympic expansion idea
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