LONDON - Emirates Stadium (60,362)

[eddyk]

I think you're making to big a deal of the bottom tier.....certainly steeper tiers have good views.....but shallow tiers dont have bad views at all!

Oh I was watching Chelsea the other day and saw their botton tier pretty much at the same gradient as the Emirates!

[Zizu]

A good acoustic atmosphere is important, of course. but so are good views. And this roof definitely obstructs the views. I just think that it might be a strange feeling to be in the stadium but not being able to see the people on the opposing tier, who create the atmosphere. Feels like being in there and although being not in there at the same time. You feel a bit isolated, not as part of the whole thing imo.
It`s just a fact that you`re closer to the pitch with steeper tiers. When a club like Arsenal is building a new stadium everything sholud be as optimal as possible... probably it has something to do with the height restrictions already mentioned

[Sparks]

You can see all the pitch from ever seat, it's just at the back of the top tier you can't see all of the other stands.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Sparks

You can see all the pitch from ever seat, it's just at the back of the top tier you can't see all of the other stands.

yes, I know. I wasn't talking about the pitch but about the other stands!

[Welshlad]

its like that at the back of the 1st tier in cardiff. Its horibble because the 2nd tier overhangs so low you cant see the rest of the stadium, i cant stand it.

[lyonsdown]

Originally Posted by Sparks

You can see all the pitch from ever seat, it's just at the back of the top tier you can't see all of the other stands.

At least it'll be better than Highbury where if you stand up on the back rows of most of the stands you can't even see half the pitch.

[MoreOrLess]

The new Jose Alvalade stadium in Lisbon has a very similar roof design. I watched Portigal vs Spain at euro 2004 from right at the back and it did feel more than a little enclosed, the number of seats it actually effects isnt that high though.

[carlspannoosh]

The tier that overhangs the bottom tier at Cardiff is much lower to the ground and so even more of the stadium is obscured. Any stadium with overhanging tiers (Rangers, Soldierfield, Genoa amongst others) or filled in corners (Copenhagen, Cologne, Genoa, Rangers among others), will have seats that have obscured views of the whole stadium, particulary in the back seats in the corners.
At Ashburton If youre in the back seats in the corners or the sides you will see all or virtually all of the stadium.Its probably a fairly small proportion of the seats right at the back directly behind the goal where some of the stadium wont be in view.
The important thing is that the whole of the pitch is seen unobscured from every seat and that is going to be the case at Ashburton Grove. Also as I said before the dish shaped roof should greatly enhance the atmosphere acoustically and also will probably look quite spectacular when completed.
The design of Ashburton grove has been shaped by many restrictions but that is because it is situated in such an excellent site geographically.
I could be seeing all this through Arsenal coloured spectacles but I think its going to be a cool stadium.

[JimB]

Originally Posted by carlspannard

Also as I said before the dish shaped roof should greatly enhance the atmosphere acoustically

Well it would, I suppose, in the unlikely event that Arsenal fans ever made any noise.

[carlspannoosh]

Originally Posted by JimB

Well it would, I suppose, in the unlikely event that Arsenal fans ever made any noise.

Yes, Highbury The Library and all that. As much as I hate to admit it when Arsenal are playing one of the run of the mill teams it can be oddly quiet but its a much better atmosphere when we are playing the likes of Chelsea/Man U/Spurs. It is at least in part due to Highburys design though so hopefully Ashburton Grove will witness an improvement in volume level.

I had a walk around the Ashburton Grove site last week and I have to say from the outside it looks massive. The pictures I have seen dont do it justice.

Anyhow, some more May 3rd pics from the Arsenal website.

[carlspannoosh]

May 11 Pictures


The Northern Triangle development

[Sparks]

wow, I didn't realise how big the other developments were.

[eddyk]

No internal views?

[Sparks]

Nope, they were taken around 2 weeks ago anyway.

[carlspannoosh]

Originally Posted by Sparks

wow, I didn't realise how big the other developments were.

Indeed. Unlike many modern stadiums Ashburton Grove certainly isnt going to be a spaceship in the wilderness.

[Englishman]

Wembley wont either. It's good all these projects come with more development of the area. London needs more housing afterall.

[lyonsdown]

I might have a wander over there at the weekend seeing as it's only about a ten minute walk from my house and try and get some pics.

[Sparks]

Originally Posted by lyonsdown

I might have a wander over there at the weekend seeing as it's only about a ten minute walk from my house and try and get some pics.

A ten minute walk?

Where have you been with the construction pics?

Let's be havin you!

[lyonsdown]

Well I'm not a gooner so I'm not all that bothered tbh and I only have the camera on my phone which is really not that great.

However my housemate has just bought a shiny new pentax digital camera so I might see if I can borrow it. But the weather looks as though it is going to be good so I think I might spend most of the weekend doing something more interesting than photographing a building site...sorry.

[Philip Cronin]

The housing on the site near Lough Road / Caledonian Road has been under construction for a long time too.