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Old June 26th, 2006, 07:27 PM   #181
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Old June 26th, 2006, 07:38 PM   #182
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Old June 26th, 2006, 08:08 PM   #183
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Old June 27th, 2006, 01:21 AM   #184
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Anyone seen CLICK in it he speeds up time 20 years and there are two freedom towers in the background, do they know something we dont.
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Old June 28th, 2006, 06:23 AM   #185
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Ground Zero Developer Sues WTC Insurers
by Arun Venugopal




NEW YORK, NY June 26, 2006 —Developer Larry Silverstein and the Port Authority went to court today to force World Trade Center insurers to make payments. They say seven companies are not promising to make good on claims, ever since Silverstein and the agency agreed to share in the rebuilding effort. WNYC's Arun Venugopal reports.

REPORTER: The insurers collectively owe 1.5 billion dollars in proceeds. According to Silverstein Properties, they have been playing down their obligations because Silverstein is no longer the leaseholder at some of the sites at Ground Zero. State Assemblyman Richard Brodsky helped conduct last month's hearings on redevelopment at Ground Zero. He says the lack of insurance proceeds could doom the Freedom Tower.

BRODSKY: It is on the cusp. There is a substantial likelihood...that the building won't be built.

REPORTER: Only one of the seven insurers responded to requests for comment. The Gulf Insurance company said it was reaching out to the parties involved and hoped to come to a resolution soon. For WNYC, I'm Arun Venugopal.

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Old June 28th, 2006, 10:38 AM   #186
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^BS.



THIS JUST IN:

The NEWEST version of Freedom Tower will be presented tomorrow!!!

I guess the public will get a view. I'm too excited to sleep. This version, by view, lacks the metal base and contains many other changes.
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Old June 28th, 2006, 01:18 PM   #187
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^oh my god this is getting silly

when ar they gonna call it quits and build the damn thing, the design gets considerably less inspired every redesign, i can imagine we'll be left with a tall glass cuboid with a cheap looking spire/antenna. Wouldnt worry too much though, it'll be redesigned again next year
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Old June 28th, 2006, 05:41 PM   #188
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^It is being built right now. That's why this thread is here.
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Old June 28th, 2006, 06:11 PM   #189
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There is nothing being build at the moment. They are just clearing the site from rubbles. Atleast they have to start doing the perimeter hole, to call it starting of the construction. However redesigns can happen even after the tower is well above ground.

As for the tower to be build with metalic frame, is that the latest word or it is something before they redesigned it and moved the positioning further away from the street, adding platinium (bomb proof) protection plates at the bottom? Or that redesign and positioning called for a more robust concrete to be used instead, and that's how it will be build?
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Old June 28th, 2006, 07:14 PM   #190
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NEW YORK -- Designed to evoke the Statue of Liberty's torch, the spire that tops the 1,776-foot Freedom Tower will feature a revolving beacon that could change color and cast beams of light into the sky, while thousands of glass prisms will cover the building's 20-story, windowless base.
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Old June 28th, 2006, 07:49 PM   #191
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NEW YORK -- Designed to evoke the Statue of Liberty's torch, the spire that tops the 1,776-foot Freedom Tower will feature a revolving beacon that could change color and cast beams of light into the sky, while thousands of glass prisms will cover the building's 20-story, windowless base.
HOLY CRAP THAT SOUNDS AMAZING

so the base won't be a soulless fortress after all... great to hear! Glass prisms = awesome!
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Old June 28th, 2006, 07:50 PM   #192
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Freedom Tower Architect To Present Design Changes at Awards Ceremony Today

By DAVID LOMBINO, Staff Reporter of the Sun

Perhaps the third time will be the charm.

At an awards ceremony taking place 52 stories above the World Trade Center site, the architect of the Freedom Tower today will present recent design changes in front of more than 700 members of New York's architecture and design community. David Childs of Skidmore, Owings & Merrill could be trying to restore some enthusiasm for the centerpiece of ground zero.

The 1,776-foot-tall Freedom Tower has been termed the commercial "white elephant" of ground zero by critics who doubt that the building will be able to attract many private sector tenants, considering its potential as a terrorist target and its relative distance from public transportation. Following lengthy negotiations between the state, the city, the Port Authority, and developer Larry Silverstein, construction on the Freedom Tower began in earnest in late April.

Security requirements of the New York Police Department sent Mr. Childs and a team of architects back to the drawing board last spring to ensure the tower would be protected from truck bombs on nearby West Street.

The second round of designs, which included a 200-foot fortified steel base and a more conventionally shaped tower, received mixed reviews. One critic called the designs "somber, oppressive, and clumsily conceived." The architects wound up back at the drawing board again.

According to Mr. Childs's publicists, the architect today will "provide a much greater level of detail with regard to critical design elements, including the prismatic glass cladding for the tower's reinforced base, the antenna at the top," along with "the white glass curtain wall and the generous allotment of open spaces and landscaping for public use."

A fellow at the Fiscal Policy Institute, David Dyssegaard Kallick, said the seemingly endless series of redesigns creates uncertainty about the tower's future.

"Is it real or isn't it? There is some speculation about whether the next governor will want to go ahead with the plan as it is now configured," Mr. Kallick said.

Mr. Childs and Skidmore, Owings & Merrill will receive an award today from the New York Chapter of the American Institute of Architects for 7 World Trade Center, the only office building destroyed on September 11, 2001, that has been rebuilt. That building has received widespread critical acclaim.

In the last round of negotiations over development at ground zero, control over leasing the Freedom Tower was transferred to the Port Authority, which owns the 16-acre site of the former World Trade Center, from Silverstein Properties. The latter will still oversee the construction of the tower, expected to cost $1.7 billion.

Because of the Freedom Tower's symbolic value, Governor Pataki has been its biggest champion. He recently guaranteed that the state would persuade the federal government to occupy 1 million square feet of the Freedom Tower as a way to limit the risk to the Port Authority in taking control of the building.

The Port Authority chairman, Anthony Coscia, said this month that further changes to the Freedom Tower could be necessary if Mr. Pataki fails to secure the government tenants by late September. Port Authority officials have suggested that those changes could include lowering the height of the tower.

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Old June 28th, 2006, 07:55 PM   #193
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Old June 28th, 2006, 08:09 PM   #194
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anybody else feel disappointed...again? i mean its great that the bottom has glass, but that roof......
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Old June 28th, 2006, 08:17 PM   #195
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anybody else feel disappointed...again? i mean its great that the bottom has glass, but that roof......
it's at least a pretty good improvement over the last one...

just build it already
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Old June 28th, 2006, 08:23 PM   #196
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I am starting to change my mind. more from SSP

Architects Unveil New Design for Freedom Tower
By DAVID W. DUNLAP and GLENN COLLINS
Published: June 28, 2006

Eager to avoid creating a fortress that overshadows the World Trade Center memorial, the architects of the Freedom Tower unveiled a new approach today. They would clad its 187-foot-high, bomb-resistant concrete base in a screen of glass prisms rather than metal panels.

This and other notable refinements were described by the building's lead architect, David M. Childs of Skidmore, Owings & Merrill. He spoke at an awards ceremony held by the New York chapter of the American Institute of Architects in 7 World Trade Center, overlooking the Freedom Tower site, which is under excavation.

Even after the revisions, the building would still evoke the twin towers in its height and proportions. Its rooftop parapet would be 1,368 feet above the street, as was that of 1 World Trade Center, the north tower.

It turns out that in another important respect, the Freedom Tower would echo the twin towers: it would have a sky lobby. Tenants headed to the upper floors of the 102-story building would take express elevators to the 64th floor and then transfer to local elevators.

If all goes according to plan — almost nothing has at ground zero — completion of the $2 billion, 2.6 million-square-foot Freedom Tower is expected in 2011.

In the first redesign last year, the base was to rise 200 feet and perhaps be clad in stainless steel, aluminum or titanium. Though Mr. Childs envisioned these panels as enlivening the almost windowless facade, others despaired about its monolithic quality. The phrase "concrete bunker" was tossed around.

"There were a lot of concerns that this was going to look like a fortress," said Kenneth J. Ringler Jr., the executive director of the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey, for which Silverstein Properties is developing the Freedom Tower. "I think David's artistic skills should alleviate many of those fears."

Gov. George E. Pataki allowed that he had been worried himself.

"I shared the fears that the security issues would lead the base to be something more intimidating than inviting," he said, "but the building is light and very luminescent and very inviting, and at the same time meets the highest security standards in the world."

The timing of the unveiling, Mr. Childs said in an advance briefing, was prompted by the completion of what are known as design development drawings for the tower; far more refined and detailed than the schematic plans shown last year. "There is still work to do, but the official design phase is over," he said.

It does not hurt public-relations efforts by Larry A. Silverstein, the president and chief executive of Silverstein Properties, since it offers evidence that construction is proceeding, despite questions about whether his insurers will withhold more than $1.5 billion in payments and whether tenants can be found for the building.

The basic form of the building has not changed. It is an obelisk on which the corners are both tapered and chamfered, or cut away diagonally. The tip of its spire would still mark the symbolic pinnacle of 1,776 feet. It would be illuminated at night in an echo, however abstract, of the Statue of Liberty's torch.

And, barring new competitors, it would be the tallest building in the United States.

In the redesign last year, the tower was given a smaller floor area, or footprint, increasing its distance from West Street-Route 9A and any bomb-laden vehicle that might approach along that highway. With smaller floors, Mr. Childs said, it was no longer practical or desirable to have as many elevator shafts running the full height of the building, dictating a transfer floor, an unexceptional feature of high-rise buildings.

Although the idea summons memories of the 78th-floor sky lobby in 2 World Trade Center, where many people died on Sept. 11, 2001, as they waited for express elevators, Governor Pataki said he was not concerned about the reintroduction of a transfer floor.

There would be five service elevators that can reach every floor, including one water-resistant car, housed in a protected shaft, for use by firefighters and other rescue workers in an emergency. There would also be a dedicated, protected staircase for first responders, to avoid the jam of rescuers coming up while tenants are heading down.

The biggest changes have been made to the base; in essence, a security pedestal that is meant to lift the glass-clad office tower out of harm's way in the event of a bombing.

Though it looks fairly small in an overall view of the building, the base would dominate almost any view north from the World Trade Center memorial, across Fulton Street. From a pedestrian's perspective, it would be the face of the Freedom Tower.

The only occupied space within the base would be the lobby, with 50-foot ceilings. The rest of this lower structure would be used for mechanical equipment.

Mr. Childs now proposes to cover the base in panels of laminated glass with a saw-tooth face made of prisms in a vertical array. "You know this from high-school physics class," Mr. Childs said. "The sun hits the prism and breaks into color."

He said that full-scale mock-ups of this wall will be built in Kearney, N.J., to ensure that the fractured, reflected sunlight will not blind pedestrians or drivers.

Behind the glass would be concrete for the first 60 feet, then an open space known as a plenum, through which air is drawn to cool the equipment inside. At this point, there would be one- or two-foot spaces between the glass panels, backed by a protective aluminum screen.

Mr. Childs said that the base, made of high-density concrete (he would not specify the thickness of the walls, for security reasons), "does the job that the New York City police want it to do, in every respect."

A spokeswoman for Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg said that City Hall and the Police Department had been consulted and had raised no concerns. Their review of the project is continuing.

In case of an explosion, Mr. Childs said, the glass will crumble into little fragments because it is laminated, much like automobile safety glass or the panels on bus shelters.

Another noticeable change to the base is that its corners would be chamfered and tapered like the tower above. But the corners on the base would taper outward as they rise, creating four triangular spaces at ground level where small reflecting pools would go.

The main office entrance would be on Vesey Street. Visitors to the observation deck would enter from a triangular plaza off West Street and go down to the concourse level, where they would be screened. From there, they can make their ascent. Restaurant patrons would enter from a small plaza on the east side of the building.

Peter Walker & Partners are the landscape architects, as they are for the trade center memorial. Both the memorial and the area around the tower would be planted with sweetgum trees, known for their star-shaped leaves and brilliant autumnal color.

Daniel Libeskind, the official master planner of the trade center site, who tangled with Mr. Childs in 2003 over the first design of the Freedom Tower, said the latest refinements by Skidmore, Owings & Merrill were a tremendous improvement.

"They have brought luminosity and a prismatic quality to the base," he said, "and made the tower more crystalline."

The office tower, 1,182 feet in height, would be clad in 13-foot-high glass panels that cover not only the window openings but the horizontal spaces between them, called spandrels. That is meant to create a seamless, transparent expanse.

This long shaft has eight faces: elongated, interlocking isosceles triangles. The floor plan begins as a 200-by-200-foot square. As the corners taper, the plan turns into an octagon and then reverts to a square again, but one that is only 145-by-145 feet.

Because the base would be so tall, the first office floor atop the base is counted as Floor 20. There would be 69 office floors, ending at Floor 88. Above that would be broadcasting space on the 89th and 90th floors, followed by three mechanical floors so high they are counted as nine stories.

In the upper reaches, a restaurant would occupy the 100th and 101st floors. The enclosed observation deck, which would almost undoubtedly include a gift shop, would be at 102. Above that would be three floors of mechanical equipment.

The last 408 feet of the tower's height would be a structure, clad in fiberglass composite panels, with a gentle convex curve in the middle. Designed in collaboration with the sculptor Kenneth Snelson, it would hide a bristling forest of antennas.

More equipment would be hidden within a halo-like circular structure, 145 feet in diameter, close to the base of the spire. The entire ensemble will be illuminated, Mr. Childs said, with light-emitting diodes and floodlights.

As a champion of the idea that the Freedom Tower should pay architectural homage to the Statue of Liberty, Mr. Libeskind offered one criticism. "I think they should work to make the figure of the torch more apparent," he said. "Even if you illuminate the flame, it is very abstract right now."

"With further refinement," he said of the latest Freedom Tower redesign, "it can become an icon for the city. But that will depend on how the top of the building looks."






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anybody else feel disappointed...again? i mean its great that the bottom has glass, but that roof......

Are you kidding me? I love this version the most.
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anybody else feel disappointed...again? i mean its great that the bottom has glass, but that roof......
Yeah, it's like finding out that the tower has been circumcised.
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Old June 28th, 2006, 09:28 PM   #199
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Wait -- so Freedom Tower has over 100 floors now?
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