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Old July 29th, 2006, 09:41 AM   #361
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I would rather two towers instead of just a single tower. I as well hate the spire on the roof. I'm not much for spires it's a cheating way to get hight points on a skyscraper ::cough:: ::cough:: Patronas Towers... But, in this case it's just ugly...
Yes! You are telling right. I hate spires too. Two tower will be perfect much.
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Old July 29th, 2006, 10:13 AM   #362
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Do you people read anything? The spire is being redesigned and it will be made bigger. Also, there will be four other towers too, but I would rather drop them all just to have two tall Freedom Towers.
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Old July 29th, 2006, 02:21 PM   #363
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Do you people read anything? The spire is being redesigned and it will be made bigger. Also, there will be four other towers too, but I would rather drop them all just to have two tall Freedom Towers.

Me too!!
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Old July 29th, 2006, 08:18 PM   #364
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folks, the spire is being redesigned, and those slanted towers you see in the pictures have been scrapped LONG AGO. theyre just old renderings. i cant wait to see what theyll look like come september, especially FOSTERS WTC. the thing is, since WTC1 isnt that spectacular, itll look pretty ****** stupid if the other 3 towers show it up. that wont look good at all.
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Old July 30th, 2006, 06:11 AM   #365
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I agree with so many others on this forum. Build twin towers! And build them taller so we can save some more green space without sacrificing office space.

Building twin towers that mimic the original -- though with a little 21st century flair -- would be a far greater testament to how indomitable the American spirit is than one tower with a dumb-ass spire designed it cheat its way to 1,776ft. F*ck the arbitary height. Spires are fake appendages that asian p*ssies put on the end of their buildings to make up for their "shortcomings."
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Old July 30th, 2006, 06:30 AM   #366
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And while I'm ranting. . .

$500 million to $1 billion for a memorial! That's more than the $175 million that was spent on the World War II Memorial. You know WWII, the real war where 400,000 Americans died. Enough with the self-pity fest.

Why don't they just put the names on the new buildings in the light or where they can be seen or incorporate them in the lobby. Don't put them under the ground where people can just walk by without even knowing they are there. Who's in charge of this thing? Did common sense die on 9-11?
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Old July 30th, 2006, 07:35 AM   #367
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And while I'm ranting. . .

$500 million to $1 billion for a memorial! That's more than the $175 million that was spent on the World War II Memorial. You know WWII, the real war where 400,000 Americans died. Enough with the self-pity fest.

Why don't they just put the names on the new buildings in the light or where they can be seen or incorporate them in the lobby. Don't put them under the ground where people can just walk by without even knowing they are there. Who's in charge of this thing? Did common sense die on 9-11?
You are obviously a back country hick with a mental foresight that stretches from your mouth to your *****. If you did possess even a morsel of technical intelligence, you would've been able to figure out that it should cost more to build a memorial in the middle of Lower Manhattan (its a busy part of Manhattan, which is an island located in New York City that contains all the tall buildings) than to build a memorial in the middle of a wide open field, as in the case of the WWII memorial.

You have to take many more things into consideration, such as the reinforcement of a massive man-made slurry wall which is holding back the Hudson River. That costs money. So does fitting in architectural, mechanical, electrical and plumbing systems for the memorial along with the Freedom Tower, PATH train terminal, NYC Subway system, a Performance Center and 4 other high-rise WTC towers. Its one of the most densely compacted construction zones in the world. Oh I'm sorry, WTC stands for World Trade Center and NYC stands for New York City.

Next time, think first before insulting the victims of 9/11 and embarrasing yourself before the audience of your superiors. You nullified the substantiality of your thoughts with your "spire to asian-*****" analogy in your previous comment.
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Old July 30th, 2006, 07:44 AM   #368
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Oh, and asians aren't the ones known for putting spires atop their skyscrapers. That's us, the Americans. Good job buddy. Stick to finance.
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Old July 30th, 2006, 09:38 AM   #369
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folks, the spire is being redesigned, and those slanted towers you see in the pictures have been scrapped LONG AGO. theyre just old renderings. i cant wait to see what theyll look like come september, especially FOSTERS WTC. the thing is, since WTC1 isnt that spectacular, itll look pretty ****** stupid if the other 3 towers show it up. that wont look good at all.
does this mean the renderings of the other WTC towers will be released this september??? CANT WAIT if its true!!
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Old July 30th, 2006, 09:42 AM   #370
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It's true. Alas, it's not early enough for me; I cannot wait. It's a defining moment for NYC and the new WTC. I really hope that the other towers will be good enough to help to restore the skyline.
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Old July 30th, 2006, 03:29 PM   #371
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Spires are fake appendages that asian p*ssies put on the end of their buildings to make up for their "shortcomings."
lol, ******* idiot. 1930s nyc?
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Old July 31st, 2006, 12:12 AM   #372
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lol, ******* idiot. 1930s nyc?
Spires in NYC 1930's were an integral part of the art deco style of the time. Many of those spires, or "hats" as they were sometimes referred to then, were functional (e.g. The Empire State Building's dirigible attachement). Since then, the internationalist style including flat roofs has largely prevailed. In Los Angeles, all major skyscrapers are required by the city to have flat roofs, each marked with their own number, to facilitate helicopter landings for emergencies such as high-rise fires.

Contrast that with the Petronas Towers. The Malaysian Prime Minister, Datuk Seri Dr Mahathir Mohamad, had the spires exteded after construciton was started to eclipse the flat toped Sears Tower. He would be the asian p*ssy I spoke of.
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Old July 31st, 2006, 02:57 AM   #373
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Thats why chi-town's better at buildings.

At the merorial will they have the names of the soldiers that died in the war on terror?
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Spires in NYC 1930's were an integral part of the art deco style of the time. Many of those spires, or "hats" as they were sometimes referred to then, were functional (e.g. The Empire State Building's dirigible attachement). Since then, the internationalist style including flat roofs has largely prevailed. In Los Angeles, all major skyscrapers are required by the city to have flat roofs, each marked with their own number, to facilitate helicopter landings for emergencies such as high-rise fires.

Contrast that with the Petronas Towers. The Malaysian Prime Minister, Datuk Seri Dr Mahathir Mohamad, had the spires exteded after construciton was started to eclipse the flat toped Sears Tower. He would be the asian p*ssy I spoke of.

?? Thats exactly the same thing like in 1930, when the architekt of chrysler building put a secret spire on top of his building and nobody knows it , so that chrysler building surpassed the trump Tower !
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Contrast that with the Petronas Towers. The Malaysian Prime Minister, Datuk Seri Dr Mahathir Mohamad, had the spires exteded after construciton was started to eclipse the flat toped Sears Tower. He would be the asian p*ssy I spoke of.
I know where you're coming from, but please shut up. You don't know what you're talking about, and tossing in racial insults isn't going to boost your reputation around here. Americans are designing those "asian" skyscrapers, so you're really just insulting your fellow Americans.
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Old August 1st, 2006, 02:46 AM   #377
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I have seen the design for 200 Greenwich... and it is GOOD!
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I have seen the design for 200 Greenwich... and it is GOOD!

HOW!?!?!?! Tell us something. By the way, 200 Greenwich is a shitty name. Call it 2 WTC or WTC Tower Two.
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Old August 1st, 2006, 03:17 AM   #379
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Spires are fake appendages that asian p*ssies put on the end of their buildings to make up for their "shortcomings."

Whoa, your Asian ***** envy is impressive! Can't wait for you to tell us how long is your corncob? Or is it a corn-on-the-cob?

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Old August 1st, 2006, 04:25 AM   #380
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HOW!?!?!?! Tell us something. By the way, 200 Greenwich is a shitty name. Call it 2 WTC or WTC Tower Two.
Sorry, the best I can do is provide a crude sketch of what I saw... and yeah its really bad, I used MS Paint. I can't really say where and how I obtained this knowledge because I don't want to risk my ass... let's just call it insider information. It was labeled as a conceptual design however, so don't get too excited. However, I personally think this design could be a bit more than merely a concept. Enjoy. And please do not relay this drawing to other sites such as Wired or Curbed, I think the last thing we want is a "rumored-concept" floating around the net. Oh yeah, 67st and more.


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